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Old 11-12-2014, 11:42 AM   #1276
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It's of my opinion that when a pokemon is ordered to watch out for a type of move that they look for the energy involved with it not to answer the question but I doubt a failed Mud Slap is providing any kind of energy occurrence and really I'd just say that insert [was never going to succeed] move here wouldn't give off enough of any kind of type energy for a pokemon to go "Eh I should do that conditional thing" because of said was never gonna work move.

In this specific case we're talking about a pokemon slapping the ground to mimic a ground type move, and to be honest if I order my pokemon to make a sand castle it shouldn't make the opposing pokemon think I'm using some sort of ground attack.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:44 AM   #1277
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So by your logic if a pokemon uses Earthquake it will not be recognised as a ground move?
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:48 AM   #1278
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Guys this is literally worse than when the battlers bitch back and forth instead of letting the ref talk. This was brought to S&I so the LOs can handle it can we please fukken let them do that and if we have something to say after they've made their point say it THEN? Thanks.
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Earthquake (GD) - The user smashes the ground, sending shockwaves of Ground energy through it. The waves transfer directly into any Pokémon who has contact with the ground, dealing significant damage. The type of ground involved determines the effectiveness of this attack, as sand, snow, mud, etc. could possibly hinder or even prevent this attack from working. If this attack is used directly on the target, it deals significant damage as if it were transferred through the ground, but will only affect that Pokémon.
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Old 11-12-2014, 11:52 AM   #1280
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If Rage Powder is like a pseudo-Taunt, does the same apply for Follow Me?
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:21 PM   #1281
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I've brought it up in the LO forums and we're going to discuss it. We'll get back to you with a policy change ASAP.

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I rewrote it recently to do so but at the moment it's not quite the case.
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:35 PM   #1282
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I'm being told by a battler that "various refs" have said that QC Sub works about as quickly as Protect. I had it being outsped by a Mud Slap. Rather than getting into the arguement I'm anticipating, I'd prefer to just go the easy route and get an LO/respectable person opinion with public transparency.

So, help pwease?
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:43 PM   #1283
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Edit: Is Sludge Wave rideable, and can liquidish Pokemon, like Grimer and Muk, ride this wave? Just want to get this officially recorded somewhere.
And a new question. Is the bonus for reffing Triples currently the same as reffing Doubles? If it is, could it possibly be changed to an additional .75 per Pokemon?
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:12 PM   #1284
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A quick question that I thought was ruled on, but the Sand-Attack debate has me confused on since from what I understand one side of the debate hinges mostly on it not working the way I thought it was ruled (and it wouldn't be the first time I thought something was ruled when it wasn't).

Can Pokemon take into account the orders of the opposing trainer in conditionals? This extends from the obvious situation of a pokemon reacting to a move that was not successfully executed to things such as "if he uses an if order, use X".
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:04 PM   #1285
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I'm being told by a battler that "various refs" have said that QC Sub works about as quickly as Protect. I had it being outsped by a Mud Slap. Rather than getting into the arguement I'm anticipating, I'd prefer to just go the easy route and get an LO/respectable person opinion with public transparency.

So, help pwease?
I'd ref QC Sub as being relatively quick. Whether or not it's as fast as Protect... eh, I'm not so sure but it'll be fairly fast.

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And a new question. Is the bonus for reffing Triples currently the same as reffing Doubles? If it is, could it possibly be changed to an additional .75 per Pokemon?
You can have the Doubles bonus for now. If Triples becomes an established ruleset, we may change our minds.

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A quick question that I thought was ruled on, but the Sand-Attack debate has me confused on since from what I understand one side of the debate hinges mostly on it not working the way I thought it was ruled (and it wouldn't be the first time I thought something was ruled when it wasn't).

Can Pokemon take into account the orders of the opposing trainer in conditionals? This extends from the obvious situation of a pokemon reacting to a move that was not successfully executed to things such as "if he uses an if order, use X".
This is what I'm hoping to rule on after some LO discussion but I'm waiting on some input from the Brits first.

Though I feel like I can confidently say no to the example given. There's no way a Pokémon is going to be able to react to what a trainer says.
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Old 11-13-2014, 07:42 AM   #1286
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Just reposting this because I'd like official word on it too:

Is Sludge Wave rideable, and can liquidish Pokemon, like Grimer and Muk, ride this wave?
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Old 11-14-2014, 01:52 AM   #1288
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So what was the final ruling/change on/to Bide?
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:20 AM   #1289
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Can natural ASB levitators such as Magnemite line participate in a Sky Battle?
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:23 AM   #1290
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We don't have any real fixed rules for sky battles so sure wynaut. I figure so long as it isn't going to fall out of the sky and splat, feel free to use it.
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:49 AM   #1291
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So a match & a skype conversation later this question was born!

Would Smack Down cause a natural levitator to have nerfed levitation for a few rounds? If yes what can we use as the logical excuse?
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Old 11-16-2014, 12:10 PM   #1292
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I'd say it'd bring it down but not necessarily keep it down.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:18 AM   #1293
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Just to make it official for codification and whatnot:

How fast is a Safeguard? Is it as fast as a Protect? Faster than the current Taunt? Faster than QC Sub? Since it's designed to block moves, logic suggests that it's on the fast side of things, but numerous people have reffed its speed differently, so I'm posting here to get the official word locked into play.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:21 AM   #1294
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Generally speaking, stuff explicitly designed to block/avoid things is fast enough to block/avoid your standard moves. Case by case dependant on tiredness of course.
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So, I'm reffing Razor Leaf as not breaking a Light Screen under the excuse that they're leaves and are noted to have easily disrupted momentum.

Is this 100% wrong or can refs discretion apply here?
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Razor Leaf is pretty notorious for being poor against Screens, but I'd say it'd probably damage it a good deal. It probably won't break a fresh Screen, though.

This isn't a ruling. It's really more of a Q&A question.

EDIT: OKAY TIME TO BACKTRACK A LITTLE

[11:06:55 PM] Jeri Chee: Razor Leaf is sorta flimsy by nature, but it's also fairly sharp, and as you stated, a physical projectile.
[11:07:20 PM] Jeri Chee: It'll probably break a screen but it'll suffer some reduction in damage as a result.
[11:07:29 PM] Jeri Chee: Seem fair?

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Does susceptibility to suggestive Hypnosis fall in line with susceptibility to other mental statuses?
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Hypnosis is a mentally-based move so I'd say so.
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Old 11-20-2014, 05:33 AM   #1299
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With Magnet Bomb's current description, does it literally mean it cannot end until it hits or is destroyed directly somehow? As in can completely change direction, and take a 180 degree turn in order to reach the target if needed?
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If a Trainer's Pokemon gets KO'ed after a reffing then:

- That Trainer sends out another Pokémon and orders an attack
- The other Trainer orders an attack
- Referee refs
and so on.
- Note that the round ends immediately when any pokemon is KO'd - even in doubles matches where both trainers still have at least one pokemon on the field. The only exception to this is in doubles, the round will continue if the trainer whose pokemon faints has no more pokemon to replace them with.
Could this be removed? I've never seen anyone ref Doubles like this, and usually the round only ends if both of a side's Pokemon end up being KO'd in the same round. It makes little sense for the surviving Pokemon to not simply attack the opponent's still remaining Pokemon if they're attacks had been ordered to attack the still fighting Pokemon. This rule just doesn't make much sense, and currently, I don't think anyone follows it whatsoever. I mean, correct me if some people do enforce it, but I've never seen it happen before.
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