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Old 09-13-2012, 12:35 PM   #1
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Pokemon emerald, fixed edition

I have decided to hack Pokemon emerald. It will be the same story wise but I will make all the Pokemon better (best ability possible, best moves possible) and fix the move typings and everything. Ex: vulpix will learn shadow ball, cut will be grass typed flygon will be a bug/ dragon etc. I need your guy's help to decide what would make each Pokemon perfect. If you help you will get a trainer named after you and you get to pick your Pokemon (no legends sorry) I have final say but you should be pretty close to what you want. Post your trainer type, Pokemon team, and at least one Pokemon line that is "fixed" I can also edit moves. There will be no storyline changes sorry

Here are the changes I plan on making. Let me know if you guys think I need to add anything else.

Changes
Tms/Hms/Mts

Tms:
14: silver wind bug p95
21: false swipe normal p 95
39: rock slide rock p95$

Hms:
7 ice climb ice p95

Type changes
Kanto
Char-line: fire/dragon
Blastoise: water/steel
Butterfree: bug/psychic
Arbok: poison/dark
Vulpix&ninetails: fire/psychic
Venomoth: poison/psychic
Ducks': water/psychic
Geo line: rock/fighting
Haunter: pure ghost
Gengar: ghost dark
Gyarados: water/dragon
Porygons: electric/psychic
Dragonite: pure dragon


Johto
Megainium: grass/psychic
Typhlosion: fire/ground
Feraligator: water/dark
Ledian: bug/fighting
Marill line: water/ice
Sudowuddo: rock/grass
Dunsparce: normal/ground
Lugia: water/flying

Hoenn
Sceptile: grass/dragon
Masqurien: bug/water
Slaking: normal/fighting
Nosepass: rock/electric
Volbeat/illimuse: bug/ electric
Trapinch: bug/ ground
Flygon: bug/ dragonp
Glalie: ice/dark
Huntail: water/dark
Gorebyss: water/psychic

Pokemon ability changes

Fire type starters: intimidate/drought
Water type starters: drizzle/swift swim
Grass type starters: effect spore/liquid ooze
Voltorb&electrode: levitate/speed boost
Weedle line: poison point
Caterpie line: natural cure
Pidgey line: cloud nine
Spearow line: early bird
Zubat line: speed boost
Meowth line: limber/Pickup
Duck line: synchronize/ own tempo
Mankey line: huge power/ intimidate
Magnemite line: levitate/ magnet pull (watch out for Wattson)
Grimer line: liquid ooze/limber
Exegg line: Serene grace/trace
Hitmon line: pure power
Tangela: limber/ suction cups
Horsea line: poison point/water absorb
Elekid line: volt absorb/speed boost
Eevee: color change
Articuno: cloud nine
Zapdos: volt absorb
Moltres: flash fire
Dratini line: cute charm
Mew/mewtwo: synchronize/trace
Chinchou line: volt absorb/water absorb
Yanma: speed boost always
Misdreavous: trace/ shadow tag
Unown: huge power/ pure power
Octillary: drizzle
Stantler: intimidate/synchronize
Smeargle: pressure/trace
Legendary beasts: fire/electric/water absorb
Tar-line: sand stream
Poochyena: cute charm
Wurmple: poison point
Sil/Cascoon: shed skin
Beautifly: shield dust
Dustox: intimidate
Sableye: synchronize/compoundeyes
Volbeat/illumise: volt absorb/swarm
Wailmer/lord: water absorb/thick fat
Absol: hyper cutter

Move changes
Silver wind (bug): hits both opponents, [power=95 accuracy=100 pp=15[stats for all modded moves till stop]
False Swipe(normal): leaves with 1 hp
Rock slide(rock): chance to flinch
Cut(grass): chance to increase attack
Fly(flying): same effect
Surf(water): same effect
Strength(fighting): dragon tail effect
Flash(electric): mud slap effect
Rock smash(rock): brick break effect
Ice climb(ice): chance to freeze
Dive(dragon): same effect
Thief(dark): same effect
Earthquake(ground): only hits opponents
Iron tail(steel): flinch chance
(Replacing the move psychic)Psychic blast(psychic): chance to confuse
Shadow ball(ghost): same effect
Sludge bomb(poison): change to badly poison[stop]

Moveset changes

Lvl up:
Starters all start with false swipe, their stat reducing move, and either: water gun, ember, or vine whip
Unown: all moves that have the word "power" in it.

Tms:
All pokemon will get their stab flamethrower/thunderbolt/ice beam.
All pokemon get false swipe
All pokemon will get the rest of the Tms that make sense with new typing.


Evolution changes
All trade evolutions without items (golem, machamp etc.) are changed to lvl 50
Feebas to milotic with water stone
Eevee to espeon with sun stone
Eevee to umbreon with moonstone
Poliwhirl to politoad with high friendship
Slowpoke to slowbro to Slowking @lv 50
Clampearl to Huntail with moon stone
Clampearl to gorebyss with sun stone
Onix to steelix at level 45
Porygon to porygon2 with thunder stone
Scyther to scizor with high friendship
Seadra to kingdra with water stone


Location changes
Safari zone: legendary zone
Route 101: starters
Route 103: my team so I don't have to wait for it :p

Item/shop changes
Lilycove department store: tm store
Slateport: ev tools (berries and vitamins)
Battle frontier pokemart: rare candies, master balls, and pp maxes added
Mauville: has harbor mail

Stat changes
I have made all Pokemon somewhat equal. they all have the same base stats that get upgraded by evolution

Pokemon who evolve twice: base- 185; 1st evo- 200; final- 250
Pokemon who evolve once: base- 200; evo- 250
Pokemon who don't evolve: base- 250
Legends: 255
All non-legendary Pokemon will have the catch rates set to 200
Legendaries be set to 75

Pokemon will be differed by ivs and evs. All the berries and stat enhancing vitamins are available in slateport.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:40 PM   #2
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Good one bigg. I'm trying to hack Black in a similar way, but it is more for personal fun and satisfaction, but if it turns out great, I'll be sure to share it with you guys. It will take a while though.. a few months for sure.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:54 PM   #3
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Fixed:
Charizard: Fire/Dragon
Volbeat and Illumise: Bug/Electric
Feraligatr: Water/Dark

Fun:
Butterfree: Bug/Psychic
Masquerain: Bug/Water (I realize the arguments for why his real-life species fits Bug/Flying)
Geodude line: Rock
Rhyhorn line: Rock
Psyduck line: Water/Psychic
Weezing: Poison/Steel
Arbok: Poison/Dark

These are just some of the ideas you could play with.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:49 PM   #4
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If you're making an Emerald, "fixed edition," shouldn't you fix the story, too? =p
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:49 PM   #5
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I got a long way through doing this for Platinum (I need to resume that, actually) and I've done a little bit of it for Black.

Personally, I don't see why everyone thinks Volbeat/Illumise should be part Electric. I mean, Bug/Electric is a great type and all, but firefly glowing has nothing to do with electricity.

...Okay, they do get a lot of electric moves, I guess. But still.


EDIT: @Amras: By fixed, he means game balance-wise.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:51 PM   #6
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How Would one fix the story?
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Copius use of events. XD
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I guess he'd have to rewrite it?
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:18 PM   #9
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Venonat/Venomoth: Bug/Psychic
Gyarados: Water/Dragon

If you can hack that deeply, consider switching the sprites for Butterfree and Venomoth.

If you're going to make Flygon Bug/Dragon, you're going to have to fix Trapinch and Vibrava too, and you're also going to have to take Trapinch out of the sandy route and put it in Petalburg Woods (just a suggestion, but it shouldn't go in the sandy route).

Make Twister better.
Make Drill Peck Normal typed. (lol jk)
Give Shuckle a decent Special Attack stat and lol as you realize the only move he can use it for is Sludge Bomb.
Give Shuckle a decent Attack stat and watch as he roflstomps the E4.
Make Shuckle into the god of Pokemon and lol for a long time.
Give Chansey a SpA stat equal to its SpD stat.

Those last ones are obviously not "fixes" but instead "idle speculation", but you can feel free to go with any suggestions you like. Do make a few changes to Shuckle's stats, though, as he's extremely difficult to catch and can really only be obtained in the Safari Zone after the National Dex is obtained or in Altering Cave (which will of course be a useless part of the hack if it's a ROM).
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:31 PM   #10
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Personally, I like Rock/Fighting Geodude since Graveler has four arms like Machamp and Golem is pretty sumo like. Plus, the anime says so.

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Old 09-13-2012, 03:33 PM   #11
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Ok another note. I may level down some Trainer's pokemon so I can place them in earlier routes
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Actually Talon, I think Rhyhorn should just be pure ground. It makes more sense in my opinion.

Also, Aerodactyl Rock/Dragon?
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This is Emerald. There is no preschooler class.
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Can you change around the TMs? Because the Elemental Punches should really be TMs you buy at the Department Store.

Also, Kairne in place of Drake, as I've before stated. I also support the Geodude line being Rock/Fighting.
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I would not mind being Gym Leader number 5.

I AM YOUR FATHER! *shot*

If that is okay with you biggggggg5, I would like to change my team then.

Golem
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Ace Trainer wasn't a class either.

Putting dibs on the seventh gym. As a grass gym. Fuck yeah.
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I wanna be the 4th Gym/Flannery:

Houndoom @Charcoal
Smog/Flamethrower/Sunny Day/Overheat

Charmeleon @Charcoal
Flamethrower/Sunny Day/Smokescreen/Overheat

Torkoal (Same moveset/item/level as Flannery's)

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this sounds interesting

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being the 8th GL/a E4 person would be cool

also, I'd like Psychic, or Steel
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Of course, me being the Mineral E4, unless you make Ledian Bug/Fighting. If you do, Bug (unless Stu really wants it, in which case, Mineral)
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Well, I am totally the Mineral GL. Seeing as it was my idea in first place.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:27 PM   #24
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I wanna be a Dark GL/E4. Give me whatever you want for that, I just want a part XD And team doesn't matter although I want a Shiftry
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This sounds awesome and I want to play this.

If you could put me as a rock/ground/steel GL or E4 I would love it!
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