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Old 08-14-2017, 08:58 AM   #5226
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Clearly we need to do Fiber Jar meta
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:50 AM   #5227
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My Stardust Dragon would do well in a Fiber Jar meta.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:54 PM   #5228
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Would it? Fiber Jar doesn't destroy.

Bring back Cyber Jar Empty Jar pls konami
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:30 PM   #5229
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Oh yeah I was thinking Cyber Jar.
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Old 09-18-2017, 11:28 PM   #5230
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NEWLY FORBIDDEN
Dinomight Knight, the True Dracofighter
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:19 PM   #5231
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RIP my deck.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:08 PM   #5232
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Your deck only got buffed lol. Not enough to make anyone want to play it, but
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:16 AM   #5233
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Librarian isn't really a buff. I wouldn't run more than 1 even if it was at 3, anyway. And banning Denglong does indeed hurt.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:54 AM   #5234
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Losing the double negate combo does hurt but

Denglong had to go. It's such a ridiculously unbalanced card.
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Old 09-20-2017, 01:03 AM   #5235
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The irony is my usage of Denlong was fair because I wouldn't stack my deck with yang zings. I merely would have it as a dupe of Accel Synchron because Accel can't be summoned more than once a turn.

You could remove all of Denlong's abilities and keep is as a Level 5 Synchro Tuner and it would be fine for what I used it for: Level Eater abuse an +0 draw.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:03 AM   #5236
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tbh the inclusion of 4 cards (Nine Pillars, Chiwen, Bian, Herald of the Arc Light) in any deck made Denglong insanely broken.

Anyways

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Old 10-15-2017, 06:11 AM   #5237
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LVP1-JP091 水晶機巧-ハリファイバー Crystron Halifiber
Link Rating 2 WATER Machine Link Effect Monster
ATK 1500
Links: Bottom Left, Bottom Right
Materials: 2 monsters (including 1+ Tuners)
You can only use each effect of this card’s name once per turn.
(1) If this card is Link Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 Level 3 or lower Tuner monster from your hand or Deck; the effects of the monster Special Summoned by this effect cannot be activated during this turn.
(2) During your opponent’s Main Phase or Battle Phase: You can banish this card; Special Summon 1 Tuner Synchro Monster from your Extra Deck (this Special Summon is treated as a Synchro Summon).

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Old 01-17-2018, 11:24 PM   #5238
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You know that Yugioh is dead on UPN when you can't get Dopple interested in the Link monster that has literally made Synchro strategies like his viable again.

(And also broken the game in two, but still.)
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Old 01-18-2018, 06:06 AM   #5239
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You know that Yugioh is dead on UPN when you can't get Dopple interested in the Link monster that has literally made Synchro strategies like his viable again.

(And also broken the game in two, but still.)
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Needlefiber wants attention senpai.
It doesn't work for a number of reasons.

1. it only enables 2 Extra slots on the field, while I need 3, no more and no less. With 3, I can loop through the Extra and go into Quasar, I just have to opt out of the stronger Durendal/Dark Law lock.
2. It requires heavy setup, 2 monsters on the field to summon. My deck is rarely able to take advantage of this because I need tutorable Level 1 tuners. To make Needlefiber work, I have to Special Summon a Level 1 Tuner and non-tuner from the hand, and get 2 cards in hand to replace them, then using needlefiber to summon...what exactly?

Remember, I don't simply want to summon Omega and Go. My fields consisted of locks, OTK bosses and a field of trap cards, since I deep draw my entire deck after looping the extra. Synchrocentric isn't powerful enough on its own anymore to play otherwise, due to the lack of inherent non-archetype floating.
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It doesn't work for a number of reasons.

1. it only enables 2 Extra slots on the field, while I need 3, no more and no less. With 3, I can loop through the Extra and go into Quasar, I just have to opt out of the stronger Durendal/Dark Law lock.
2. It requires heavy setup, 2 monsters on the field to summon. My deck is rarely able to take advantage of this because I need tutorable Level 1 tuners. To make Needlefiber work, I have to Special Summon a Level 1 Tuner and non-tuner from the hand, and get 2 cards in hand to replace them, then using needlefiber to summon...what exactly?

Remember, I don't simply want to summon Omega and Go. My fields consisted of locks, OTK bosses and a field of trap cards, since I deep draw my entire deck after looping the extra. Synchrocentric isn't powerful enough on its own anymore to play otherwise, due to the lack of inherent non-archetype floating.
1) There is still the option to link ladder if you need to (Special Summoning Unknown Synchron or Mecha Phantom Beast O-Lion will give you easy access to Summon Sorceress or Decode Talker in the other Extra Monster zone (since you can Link summon to the other zone using a link monster you control in your current zone).

2) I...I'm not even sure how to respond to this point. It's a Synchro Summon that has no level restrictions. It tutors out your Level 1 Tuners from the _deck_ and that's fine because none of the Level 1 Tuners you'd actually run have on field effects. It's no more of a heavy investment than TGHL, and TGHL doesn't _do_ anything when you immediately summon it.

Like, there are decks out there in Link format currently able to pump out all three variants of Shooting Quasar Dragon, thanks to this card. Sure they aren't meta decks but Synchro focused decks haven't been the meta since what, Debris Plants back when Spore and Glow-Up Bulb got banned? You may need to make some adjustments to your deck (more of a focus on Hand Traps than normal Traps, Glow-Up Bulb, Dandylion, Gofu, hell, even Brilliant Fusion if you want to risk the Garnet brick), but I think as a whole, Synchro strategies have only gotten stronger simply because of this card.

(And like every other deck but lol)
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:50 AM   #5241
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1. That's possible, there are 2 free extra slots to play with, but that requires more deck dedication than I can handle under the current banlist. It's possible with three ROTA, Upstart and three Tuning. Not possible with one ROTA and Upstart.

2. The problem is I have to resolve Doppelwarrior; the deck revolves around him and, to a lesser extent, Level Eater, because there's no other way to generate pluses. Librarian is basically a conversion engine who turns tokens into draws.

There are limited options for summoning a Level 1 Tuner and Doppelwarrior without using Junk Synchron to summon the Level 1 tuner from the grave. It was possible with E-Teleport and Re-Bible/Mind Master but didn't have good synergy, and E-Teleport got hit too soon anyway. I also had the problem of Re-Bible being dead in hand.

Basically, if Hanewata was a Psychic-type, things would have been a lot better. I could run x3 E-Teleport, x3 Rota, 3 Hanewata and Effect Veiler, 3 Doppelwarrior, 3 JS and three Tuning. Wouldn't matter what is dumped because you could summon the missing component with so many E-Tele and Rota's.

If you summon Librarian from the Graveyard with Junk Synchron, that leaves the problem of getting a Level 1 tuner on the field to begin with. It takes resources to dump doppel (minuses, usually).
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:02 AM   #5242
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Now, here's a card that actually does help: Yokotuner. It summons Junk Synchron from the Graveyard, which then summons Doppelwarrior from the hand, although I still need Warrior in the hand. I can also summon the bulkier tuner monsters with it. But again, it's not searchable, having a bad type and attribute. Konami always does this to cards that are interesting.
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Yokotuner is really good tbh

What about Dragon Ravine, Destrudo, Darkwurm etc?
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Old 01-18-2018, 03:18 PM   #5244
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The main problem is I can't rid myself of the following cards:

Junk Synchron
Doppelwarrior
Level 1 Tuners
Mill/thin cards

In order to summon Librarian AND tokens to rodeo, these cards and setup are more or less essential. Making room for links means I have to take away from the draw/consistency, or board control. Do you think the game has slowed enough that I don't have to remove all threats on turn 1?

I rebuilt my deck using Dueling Book (though I've forgotten some of the lost tech) and here are the cards that I could take out, which are "tech":

Shaddoll Dragon, Beast, Squamata
Calcab, Farfa of the Burning Abyss

These cards are used for deck thinning and board control, which they're very good at, and in a pinch they can be used for Synchro into a Level 6 or Level 7

Book of Eclipse x2

The best spell control card, especially when combined with Twin Twister

Vanity's Emptiness

Now banned. Good, I guess, when I finally got used to it.

...

So okay, here's a possibility.

Instant Fusion + Thousand Eyes-Restrict

This gets a Level 1 with utility onto the field to summon with Cystron Needlefiber. But I still need a Level 1 tuner to special summon itself without relying on the opponent making a play.

Also, this starts to eat into my Extra Space...
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Old 01-18-2018, 03:30 PM   #5245
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Well, I had my first duel against True Dracos, and I survived 4 turns with no offense, so there's something.

I used TER and Unknown Synchron but he flipped it down. And because Needlefiber summons from the deck, I had no way to trigger Doppelwarrior.

Basically, I need a Link that functions similar to Norden. Now that Vanity is banned, my trap is going to be Blasting the Ruins. I only run one, because with a draw this deep I often get it.
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Calcab is pretty bad in today's meta because the good decks either don't run traps or they are chainable for the most part. Especially Trickstar. So I'd cut that. Farfa is OK in certain match-ups but is borderline useless against SPYRAL.

Whatever you do, don't cut Hanewata out right now. If you're playing TCG/OCG, you'll face a ton of plant FTK decks most likely.
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What about Effect Veiler? During that match, I could have used it on the guy's monsters but the minus was too much considering I couldn't do anything.

Also considering Creature Swap if he's going to spam huge monsters like that.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:59 PM   #5248
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Needlefiber works, since it replaces what Tuner it uses up in the link summon. That helps out a lot, but Doppelwarrior is still needed.

The all-dark option wasn't so good. Might use, Scapegoat + D.D. Sprite, a classic.
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What about Effect Veiler? During that match, I could have used it on the guy's monsters but the minus was too much considering I couldn't do anything.

Also considering Creature Swap if he's going to spam huge monsters like that.
Effect Veiler is ok in certain match-ups like SPYRALs for negating Double Helix. I've heard it is on the uptick for being a budget hand trap, but I'm not entirely sure to be fair.

What decks have you been facing so far?
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After the BTFO from True Draco, I won against a bunch of test decks. I OTL to you blaze, this card has brought my deck back, with some asterisks.

The first is Quasar, Trishula power plays are no longer feasible. I'm more or less firmly locked into Level 5, Level 8 Synchros tops. This means I can't hand loop, and thus I'm probably limited in my ability to beat out the Tier 1 meta decks.
I find this ironic, because once upon a type I used to complain about "horizontal" (XYZ) summons instead of "vertical" (Synchro) summons. Why go into Durendal with a 2 + 5 + 5 setup, when you could go into Quasar? Because 2 + 5 + 5 isn't possible anymore, at least with the cards available.
Also: Mind Control has increased in power, since summoning Link Monsters doesn't violate its conditions. So, I swapped it out instead of Creature Swap, and also dismantled the D.D. Sprite/Scapegoat method.
I need an all-purpose good trap, in the vein of Solemn Judgment, to round out my defense. Blasting the Ruins isn't consistent enough, though I like it.
Omega, Stardust are the most valuable Level 8's because once they activate their abilities they aren't restricted by the Link rules.
Coral Dragon needed to be a Level 5...if it was life would be grand, I think I've mentioned that before.
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