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Old 12-16-2011, 07:39 PM   #1
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Vileplume Pokemon Plus: Nobunaga no Yabou

I hope Rance is in it.



Oh, I guess it was reported here too.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:54 PM   #2
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So, I've never actually heard of the Nobunga games before this, and I don't know much about them, but this crossover looks fucking incredible.

Pokemon? In feudal Japan? Yes, please.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:02 PM   #3
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Someone needs to explain what the hell this all is.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:11 PM   #4
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The game seems projected as a feudal Japanese t-RPG with a Pokemon presence, I'm not even confident if the Pokemon will be a serious battle mechanic like the normal games, or if this'll be story driven.

Whatever the case, it's a step toward Pokemon becoming more "mature" and that means the audience will grow up with it. Even if it's just a cool gimmick game, it'll be cool to see made.
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The game that it's crossing over with, if anyone was interested.

Also, I think a better transliteration is probably Pokemon + Nobunga no Yabou. But that's just me.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:42 PM   #6
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Funny, the region it takes place in is called Ranse.
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A video!

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This brings a lot of hope to a fan who's getting bored of the same repetative Pokémon games and spinoffs.
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:40 AM   #8
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So this is for the DS? Dear god that is awesome, hopefully it will get localised because, personally, I have been wishing for a pokemon SRPG for a while now.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:34 AM   #9
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omgggg the official trailer makes this look ridiculously awesome I want it nowwwwww

omg it's like FF Tactics + Pokemon so perfect fuuuuck release this immediately
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:53 AM   #10
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Why are you all so excited? Why am I the only one so far who thinks this sounds like a terrible idea?

Everybody else: because your opinions suck.

Forgive me, but frrustratingly "Right back at ya."

I dunno. This could be cute, I guess? But this is about as stupid as having Dynasty Warriors x Pokemon. I love Dynasty Warriors. I love Pokemon. But I wouldn't want the two crossed together. That would just be stupid.

Why, GameFreak? Why must you deny the fanbase a Pokemon MMO? Why must you deny the fanbase a main console main series title? Why must you deny us a good 3D game? And yet why do you waste our time on crap like this?

Well, at least everybody else is excited. I guess that bodes well for whoever proposed this crossover at the board meeting.
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Old 12-17-2011, 10:18 AM   #11
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Meh. Might buy this, in no real rush though.
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Why, GameFreak? Why must you deny the fanbase a Pokemon MMO? Why must you deny the fanbase a main console main series title? Why must you deny us a good 3D game? And yet why do you waste our time on crap like this? :?
Holy shit someone that agrees with me. A friend and I at uni came up with a really good idea for the Gold/Silver remakes to be a Wii-based MMO (this was thought up in '08), but obviously that never happend.

>FF/Kingdom Hearts comparisons

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Old 12-17-2011, 02:05 PM   #13
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>Why are you all so excited? Why am I the only one so far who thinks this sounds like a terrible idea?

I really don't care about the crossover shit and frankly I think it sounds a little stupid. I'm more excited about the strategy element. The storyline will probably be kinda shitty anyways - I just want to play a TRPG with Pokemon.
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:16 PM   #14
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Why are you all so excited? Why am I the only one so far who thinks this sounds like a terrible idea?

Everybody else: because your opinions suck.

Forgive me, but frrustratingly "Right back at ya."

I dunno. This could be cute, I guess? But this is about as stupid as having Dynasty Warriors x Pokemon. I love Dynasty Warriors. I love Pokemon. But I wouldn't want the two crossed together. That would just be stupid.

Why, GameFreak? Why must you deny the fanbase a Pokemon MMO? Why must you deny the fanbase a main console main series title? Why must you deny us a good 3D game? And yet why do you waste our time on crap like this?

Well, at least everybody else is excited. I guess that bodes well for whoever proposed this crossover at the board meeting.
I agree, but I don't think GameFreak is working on this title? I believe they're doing something else in secret, probably Gray or RSE remakes. I am personally excited for this game because it looks unique and different, and I would love the strategy element a la Fire Emblem and FFT
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:21 PM   #15
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Why are you all so excited? Why am I the only one so far who thinks this sounds like a terrible idea?
I wouldn't say terrible, especially when this game's existence will likely increases the chances of the games you want to be made by a non-zero value. However small it may be.

But I'm not overly enthusiastic about it, because it looks gimmicky - a t-RPG with a Pokemon presence, rather than, say, the Pokemon universe 500 years earlier.

The art is nice. It'll be likewise nice to see Pokemon in another setting. Yet it's nothing but a step, it's a far cry from a Pokemon game for fans who've already grown up.
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I really don't care too much really about the story and that, personally these types of games I pretty much play for the gameplay rather than the story, and I want to play me some tactical pokemon.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:35 PM   #17
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I think I just wet my pants.


EDIT: And Eevee is one step closer to replacing Pikachu as pokemon's mascot.


EDIT 2: >People complaining about how it's not the things they've been hoping for.
*Facepalm*
Goddammit, people. It's pokemon expanding it's horizons. Remember, this is a spin-off game- is this really not on par with PMD and Ranger?

But Kin, those games are bad anyways! We want our adult pokemon games!

Get over yourselves! Pokemon is a series aimed at the most profitable demographic group for video games- the kids. We should be happy there are elements for older players in the first place. If you want all this random different shit, go play a different game! That's why there are so many video games- so there's something for everyone!
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Though, I also dislike the concept of lamenting the current day while wishing to re-experience the past. At least, my modern attitude is to try and make each new day magical even if it's not, since exclusively reminiscing about the past is too pathetic.

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Old 12-17-2011, 11:03 PM   #19
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Why are you all so excited? Why am I the only one so far who thinks this sounds like a terrible idea?
I'm pretty sure "Pokemon Strategy RPG" is a pretty awesome idea. Not exactly how I would have expected them to execute on it, but hey.

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I think the collective Pokemon fanbase has been over this ad nauseum, but let me break it down for all the "POGEMAN MMO WOULD BE TEH COOLIES" folks:

1. MMOs are expensive to create and maintain, and we live in a world where many of them must increasingly turn to F2P/microtransctions to be relevant, much less survive. Pokemon is a series that is relatively cheap to produce (IIRC, a "AAA" DS game only costs around a few million dollars to make) and its mainline incarnations are almost guaranteed to sell 10+ million copies sight unseen. If you're Nintendo (a notoriously financially conservative company), what seems like the better business decision?

2. The base mechanics of a Pokemon game do not lend themselves well to an MMO. I think if more people actually put some thought into what Pokemon would have to be mechanically to be a functional MMO, a lot of them would be a lot less gung-ho about the idea.

3. With online play/trading, you basically already have all the social interaction you'd actually want out of a Pokemon MMO. Admittedly you don't get the "OMG ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE IN THIS WORLD WITH ME" feeling, but I think all of us who played WoW can attest that at a certain point other players in an MMO become either levers you exploit to help you get AWESUM POWAH or pains in the ass when you're just trying to get 10 bear asses in peace. I exaggerate, but not by much.

4. It's easier to convince Mom to buy a DS game that will shut her hellspawn up on car trips than it is to convince her to go in for a $15/month subscription.

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Because:

1. Much of Pokemon's appeal is predicated on personal interaction?

2. There's really not much in Pokemon's base mechanics that would be vastly improved on a home console?

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I'm pretty sure "Pokemon Strategy RPG" is a pretty awesome idea.
It does sound cool, but I think we're getting "Strategy RPG with Pokemon". With hot feudal babes old enough to be my ancient Japanese ancestors. =3=
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It does sound cool, but I think we're getting "Strategy RPG with Pokemon". With hot feudal babes old enough to be my ancient Japanese ancestors. =3=
Well, that's what I would of assumed too. But the battle scenes in the trailer seem to imply all-pokemon battles.
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Well, that's what I would of assumed too. But the battle scenes in the trailer
lol, what? We are talking about this trailer that emp posted, yes? In which case there were zero battle scenes in the trailer.
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Nope, they mean this one
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The good news for you guys: looks like it'll be Pokemon tactics then after all and not simply "Nobunaga but with Pokemon tacked on"
The bad news for you guys: just look at those in-battle graphics.

The cutscene animations look really nice though. Reminds me of Capcom's artwork in the Phoenix Wright series. But those battle graphics ... yeesh, I've seen better tactical game graphics on the GameBoy Advance for fuck's sake (Sample 1, Sample 2), never mind the Nintendo DS (Sample 1).

Well, there's one last bit of goodness embedded in those poor graphics, I guess: and that is that this will be a regular DS release and not a 3DS release, meaning you can all pick it up and play it this spring (Jpns release) or else whenever (if ever) it comes out in the USA and Europe. No need to rush out and buy a 3DS for this one.
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This seems like an extremely random crossover with a low likelyhood of being released outside of Japan sadly enough. I dun care for SRPGs cause they're slowwww and I always end up needing a guide to get through 'em so I can't say I got much interest in this one. This game could end up being the DS's Earthbound 2. Never localized cause its coming out way to late in the systems life.

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Why bring up GameFreak as if they have anything ta do with this project x.x? Cry out against TPC or Nintendo! It wouldn't be surprising if this was a political move to secure more support from Koei in the future. This is something they've done before with other characters and companies ya know.
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