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Old 04-27-2011, 10:30 AM   #276
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...Why does Thunderbolt-level Shadow Ball still take 10 seconds to charge?
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:40 AM   #277
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...Why does Thunderbolt-level Shadow Ball still take 10 seconds to charge?
Shadow Ball (GH) -- The user charges up and fires a ball of black ghost energy at the opponent, launching it to hit the target for significant damage. Upon impact, the ball bursts, letting out a ghostly wind that deals damage to those around it. This attack is particularly unstable and most decently powerful Psychic attacks will burst it.

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I'd have said it takes about three or four seconds personally.
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Shadow Ball (GH) -- The user charges up and fires a ball of black ghost energy at the opponent, launching it to hit the target for significant damage. Upon impact, the ball bursts, letting out a ghostly wind that deals damage to those around it. This attack is particularly unstable and most decently powerful Psychic attacks will burst it.

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I'd have said it takes about three or four seconds personally.
Jeri says otherwise. Confused me too.
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Jeri says otherwise. Confused me too.
Oh. Presumably he forgot about the changes.
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:56 AM   #280
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Jeri says otherwise. Confused me too.
If you're on about what I think you're on about, this was with regards to a match using the old move descriptions.
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If you're on about what I think you're on about, this was with regards to a match using the old move descriptions.
That would make more sense, but I wasn't aware that MC Shadow Ball required 10 seconds to charge.
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That would make more sense, but I wasn't aware that MC Shadow Ball required 10 seconds to charge.
Because whoever wrote the old attack descriptions has no sense of time whatsoever, and thought that 10 seconds for a full charge for a ghost and an extra three for non ghosts was reasonable.

Honestly in the anime it's never been shown as more than like three or four seconds, even on the occasion that old shadow ball was written based on (Agatha's Gengar when she was in control of Viridian gym, I think Mozz said). People underestimate how long a second is.
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That would make more sense, but I wasn't aware that MC Shadow Ball required 10 seconds to charge.
Am I the only one who treated default as Full Charge.
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The description doesn't say MC SHADOW BALL so I agree with Jeri on this one.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:19 PM   #285
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Am I the only one who treated default as Full Charge.
I think so, yeah. I always thought everyone reffed default everything as MC.
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Am I the only one who treated default as Full Charge.
Everyone did until like the last 3 months. Dave started the MC thing.
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Everyone did until like the last 3 months. Dave started the MC thing.
As much as I'd love to take credit for it, I don't think I did.

Though I did usualy treat 'Shadow Ball' as MC and 'Hyper Beam' and 'Focus Punch' as FC by default.

But I'm crazy.
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Am I the only one who treated default as Full Charge.
Anyone who learnt to ref pre-Dave refs it like this. I'm with you.
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Dave - the second most influential ref of this generation.
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Dave - the second most influential ref of this generation.
This is what happens when one person has reffed like at least half the matches for everyone who joined after him.
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:50 PM   #292
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I think MC being defaut just makes sense- If someone commands you to do something, the average person isn't going to do more or less than normally required.
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The description of 'Shadow Ball' is a blahblahblah ball at hyper beam level with a 10 second charge time.

You ordered Shadow Ball. :o
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Old 04-28-2011, 08:40 PM   #294
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Well, actually, I had originally posted 'MC Shadow Ball', but edited it out, as I considered it redundant.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:16 PM   #295
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I've always gone with FC as default unless specified. Consider it a punishment for not thinking through orders?
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I'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to be. Referring to FC unless otherwise specified, that is.
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But how does it not make sense for 'Medium' to be the default?
Charging something to the MAXIMUM POWER as default seems, well, stupid, imo.
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The reason Shadow Ball is interpreted as the full charge method is because that is what the attack is.
It's the same reason you wouldn't say "Focus Blast" when you mean MC Focus Blast.
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The reason Shadow Ball is interpreted as the full charge method is because that is what the attack is.
It's the same reason you wouldn't say "Focus Blast" when you mean MC Focus Blast.
...No. MC Shadow Ball is the normal, and FC is an increased level, considering the anime episode which caused Shadow Ball to be chargeable. Focus Blast is totally different, where different charges is the attack being charged less than normal.
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Oh hey!

There's no more QC / MC / FC to even mess with. Gone. Done. Over.

FC always was the default until the rewrite. Sorry.
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