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Old 06-19-2010, 10:20 AM   #26
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For a second there, I thought you said he took several rockets then went off like a thunderbolt. ' x '

Question: Why are Volbeat and Illumise considered familiar with electric attacks?
They're lightning bugs and have a pretty significant amount of Electric attacks.

>Latios and Latias are missing from both threads so I figure I'd mention invisibility here?

If they're not on the list they probably have an existing description but it's worth mentioning and will probably be added.
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Old 06-19-2010, 10:42 AM   #27
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Just pointing out that Bibarrel, Shieldon and Mespirit have gotslight errors. Bibarrel's says it's Bidoof, Shieldon's says it's Bastiodon and Mespirit's says it's Azelf.
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Some queries here:

Bronzor line: Do they start the battle grounded, or are they assumed to be floating unless ordered otherwise? Because it seems logical that Bronzong/Bronzor would float naturally, since they can't move otherwise. If it's the latter, can the description be edited to reflect this better?

Combusken: I know Blaziken was mentioned, but Combusken's 25 feet also seems a little high, considering its legs are considerably shorter than Blaziken's. Just pointing this out to avoid it being overlooked.

Lucario: When sensing an enemy, does it have to use a move to close its eyes and then another to sense the enemy's aura, or is it all one move?
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:16 PM   #29
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Pokemon who float are considered to start floating unless specified otherwise. That's how it works in the anime.

Combusken will also be toned down accordingly.

And it's just one move.

EDIT: Made a sweep for spelling errors and a few corrections on wording. If you see any more please post and I'll fix them ASAP.
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Jeri, as an aside, who's doing the Attack Descriptions and how's progress on them?
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:31 PM   #31
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Muyo and ABL, and there's been some delay because of Muyo's finals.

Hopefully they'll be working on them again soon but it'll be a while before the planned revamp is totally done.

As for descriptions that need to be fixed in general, those -should- be released before the revamp but we'll see.
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Old 06-20-2010, 04:16 AM   #32
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They're lightning bugs and have a pretty significant amount of Electric attacks.
Okay. Well, if that's the case, then shouldn't Crogunk be familiar with dark moves?
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Okay. Well, if that's the case, then shouldn't Crogunk be familiar with dark moves?
No idea where you pulled this one from; there's nothing to suggest this for poison arrow frogs.

Unless it's been nixed in advance for balance, I'd like to state Blaze for all members of the Chimchar family.
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http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/croagunk

I was mainly talking about how it learns almost every dark move in existence.
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^ This is true.

Not that my Croagunk can use Dark moves anymore >.>
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:46 AM   #36
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Well, any half decent ref will automatically give Croagunk more dark energy than they would, say, a Machoke, so I don't really think that needs a characteristic.

Ta Jeri, was gonna offer to help out.
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Uxie says Azelf at one point :x (I know it doesn't really matter) Also does Cherubi's absorbing take a move?
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>Also does Cherubi's absorbing take a move?

Yes, I'll add that.

>Okay. Well, if that's the case, then shouldn't Crogunk be familiar with dark moves?

>lighting bugs
>lighting
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>Posion Dart Frog
>Dark

Do I need to say anything else?

>Unless it's been nixed in advance for balance, I'd like to state Blaze for all members of the Chimchar family.

Actually that's perfectly reasonable, and I think there's no reason not to include it.

Thinks like Fireproof and Motor Drive and stuff, that's a whole 'nother story, but Blaze and junk is definitely acceptable.
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But lightning bugs don't use electricity. They use bioluminescence. :/
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I dunno. I'll admit, it seems a little repetitive to me to put it there since having a lot of Electric moves = Having a lot of Electric energy but we did it for Solrock so *shrug*

I did change it for more moderate wording and to clarify a drawback on the tail-light thing.
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But lightning bugs don't use electricity. They use bioluminescence. :/
As much as I'm gonna hate myself for this:

Real animals =/= Pokémon

If that were the case, Lanturn wouldn't be Electric-type, since Anglerfish use bioluminescense.
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As much as I'm gonna hate myself for this:

Real animals =/= Pokémon

If that were the case, Lanturn wouldn't be Electric-type, since Anglerfish use bioluminescense.
ACtually, you helped my point. Jeri was saying that since Volbeat and Illumise are based off lightning bugs, they should be familiar with electricity. As you said; Real Animals =/= Pokemon.
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>If that were the case, Lanturn wouldn't be Electric-type, since Anglerfish use bioluminescense.

Case in point.

Now seriously I don't really get why a little extra Electricity (which is what it amounts to because of bawwwing) is going to hurt. Chill.
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Then why can't Croagunk get a little extra darkness?

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That's a non sequitur. Why does the argument about Illumise affect Croagunk?
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If what the pokemon is based off has no relevance on what types they are familiar with, the only reason for Volbeat/Illumise to be familiar with electricity is they're plethora of electrical moves. And Croagunk has a MASSIVE amount of dark moves. Never mind the fact that the pokedex states that it rarely fights fairly, which is a characteristic of dark types.
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Your first point is not justification for giving Croagunk extra dark moves more than those it already gets. However, it probably discredits giving the bugs extra electric energy.
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If your ref is smart, they're going to give Croagunk a good bit of Dark energy anyways.
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If what the pokemon is based off has no relevance on what types they are familiar with, the only reason for Volbeat/Illumise to be familiar with electricity is they're plethora of electrical moves. And Croagunk has a MASSIVE amount of dark moves. Never mind the fact that the pokedex states that it rarely fights fairly, which is a characteristic of dark types.
If rationale for familiarity was based on the attack distribution in the games, Normal-types would screw us all over. Not like they already don't in some cases.

Maybe as someone who's done similar things before, I don't think it's unreasonable to say this: the squeaky wheel doesn't get the grease; the squeaky wheel gets replaced the most quickly.
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I think Croagunk's characteristics are fine as is.

Jeri, I think you may have forgotten to carry over Gabite's characteristics down the lineage.
Would only make sense as it evolves and becomes more powerful.
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