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Old 05-26-2010, 08:10 AM   #1
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...I don't think I'll ever look at Blue/Gary the same way ever again.



Wow... I never noticed this as a kid. How... dark.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:38 AM   #2
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He's still the coolest guy in the game, not to mention he later grows up to become the Ground Gym Leader, and seems to be pretty happy.
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Old 05-26-2010, 10:49 AM   #3
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I knew about his raticate dieing...

But that other stuff... pretty interesting speculation, most of it.

But that's a good point about him being an orphan.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:51 PM   #4
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OMG Where is that site that said Prof. Oak was Ash's real dad?

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Old 05-26-2010, 01:20 PM   #5
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You're no fun, you know that?

In before "gary boxed it because raticate sucks".
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:45 PM   #6
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How am I no fun? Pokemopolis is fucken awesome. Not as awesome as like 7 years ago. But still awesome.
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Old 05-26-2010, 02:29 PM   #7
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I think it says something concerning about those who came up with the whole "oak being ash's dad" theory.

But otherwise its downright hilarious
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:16 PM   #8
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I was going to mention boxing the shitmon, but deoxys smartly beat me to it.

Really, folks, that's all this is: he boxed a shitmon and one fan read waaaaaaaaaaaaay too far into it. lol

Also, for all you Phoenix Wright fans out there, let's see how many OBJECTIONS! we can raise, shall we? Click the links first, and then read the spoiler text.

Objection #1.
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His parents could be deceased -- or they could be on a business trip, on vacation, at work, etc. Pokémon is not Minami-ke, i.e. Pokémon does not afford us tens upon tens of glimpses into its characters' domestic lives such that we may draw conclusions such as this that Gary is an orphan. Never saw Tracey's parents! Never saw Misty's! Never saw Pikachu's! Guess that must mean they're all dead. [/sarcasm]


Objection #2.
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After all, aren't we also in Lavender Town? :rolleyes:


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No further explanation necessary.


And finally ...

Objection #4.
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Because I know someone is just waiting to make fun of this post, so I figured I'd set you up for an Edgeworth rebuttal. 'Cause I have a sense of humor like that. ;p
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:18 PM   #9
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Minami-ke, [/spoiler]
What the hell is a minami-ke?
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:30 PM   #10
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I'm such a huge fan I can't explain it without writing and linking you to much too much. So, instead I'll hold myself back and just link you to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minami-ke . If you'd like me to link you to more, I can. I hope you check out the show.
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Old 05-26-2010, 03:57 PM   #11
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:17 AM   #12
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A friend of mine has always insisted that RBY is the darkest of the Pokemon games. In some sense, it's true.

They haven't touched on a lot of the more morbid ideas since RBY.

Team Rocket was extremely malicious and self-serving. They corrupted, tortured, mutilated, experimented on and otherwise abused their Pokemon.

Lavender Town was a town about death, something that was focused on and became part of the story. It directly confronted the death of Pokemon, even forcing you to fight the ghost of a Marowak. Death is glazed over in other games with RSE/DP, in which they just mention it and have a place that's really nothing more than an excuse to catch Ghosts.

Sure, there's been a good bit of maturation in some of the concepts but there's still a good deal of darkness surrounding the first gen.

>After all, aren't we also in Lavender Town? :rolleyes:

Sure, but we had a reason to go into Pokemon Tower (to save Mr. Fuji). Gary didn't.
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We didn't even know of Mr. Fuji's existence, much less plan on saving him, prior to our arrival in town, Jeri.
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Old 08-15-2010, 04:49 AM   #14
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I am slow and have just found out about the truth of Buterfree!




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Old 08-15-2010, 04:56 AM   #15
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Old 08-15-2010, 05:22 AM   #16
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I fail to see why.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:55 AM   #17
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Because all we see is "4CHAN.ORG." We don't see an actual image. You may, but it's because it's in your browser cache.
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:38 PM   #18
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well I can see it and it seems to be evidence!!
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Old 08-16-2010, 12:00 AM   #20
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Sentimentality for Buttefree aside, someone really fucked up at Gamefreaks.
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:00 AM   #22
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Sentimentality for Buttefree aside, someone really fucked up at Gamefreaks.
Convergent evolution?

Butterfree wishes it were as good a Pokemon as Venonat.
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:00 AM   #23
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But Buterfree could look better than Venonat if it was actually Venonat.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:46 AM   #24
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The problem is, the bottom half of the second image lies for the sake of its joke. It would be something else if it were real, but the sprites are (obviously) switched, just as in the first image.

As for the top half of the second image, the caterpillar doesn't match the adult. The adult pictured is indeed a swallowtail butterfly, but that's Beautifly's identity:



The caterpillar pictured is not the swallowtail's. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SwallowTailPupa2.JPG for the real caterpillar.

Well, further research has suggested that there are many, many kinds of swallowtail butteflies. (I did not know this: I am not an entomologist!) And I've found a caterpillar which does match a swallowtail ... but it still isn't the one depicted in the jpeg of 4chan's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Mormon has a Caterpie-like caterpillar, but an adult form which looks little like Venomoth except for the swallowtail wing extensions.

This one appears to be Beautifly's identity. It could also be this one, which is said to be Japan's most common swallowtail. In fact, it probably is the second one, which has much more black markings than the first one does. (A re-look at Beautifly confirms just how much of its wings are black and not colored.)

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Did you have the Japanese red/blue?
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