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Old 02-22-2009, 09:46 PM   #1
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Announcement Suggestions and Inquiries

As many of you may have questions or comments on new announcements, this thread is for the posting of those concerns. Post your questions here and an LO will answer them.

Non LOs should not answer questions here.

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Old 02-23-2009, 11:20 AM   #2
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Is there a cooldown on challenging legendaries, or could I rack up over 9000SP and proceed to fight Regirock over and over and over and over again until I won?
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:42 PM   #3
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Where will these challenges be posted?
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:47 PM   #4
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No cooldown period, if you want to spend the SP, you can keep fighting until you win.

The battles will be held either in a stuck thread in the main forum of UPN or SPP, or in their own subforum on either board.
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Old 02-24-2009, 01:33 PM   #5
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A few things to say:

As awesome as this may be, I feel that being able to use it in any given match without the other trainer's consent is a big no-no. Its just unfair.

Also this seems very unfair to non-refs, like Zora and myself, as well as the general newbies who have no realistic way of getting SP.

Also, I don't think I would necessarily feel comfortable with anybody other than an LO reffing the matches for capture.

Also powerful flying types >< and no fighters ><

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Old 02-24-2009, 01:43 PM   #6
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Also I would limit to one legendary per person.

And gyms should be allowed to ban bringing in legendaries.

And they shouldn't be allowed sig moves due to their immense power.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:09 PM   #7
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As awesome as this may be, I feel that being able to use it in any given match without the other trainer's consent is a big no-no. Its just unfair.

-- Agreed. If I was going to face someone with a legendary, that would have to be banned before I even think of accepting the match.

Also this seems very unfair to non-refs, like Zora and myself, as well as the general newbies who have no realistic way of getting SP.

-- They're called service points for a reason. Maybe helping to update rules or something could be point-worthy, but other than that, I don't care that you're not getting SP. You're not reffing. That's the point.

Also, I don't think I would necessarily feel comfortable with anybody other than an LO reffing the matches for capture.

-- Agreed. A-level certainly.

Also powerful flying types >< and no fighters ><

-- ;_;

Also I would limit to one legendary per person.

-- Agreed, although that stupid asshole with the Regis...

And gyms should be allowed to ban bringing in legendaries.

-- Absolutely.

And they shouldn't be allowed sig moves due to their immense power.

-- The thing is that they're getting weakened. Personally, I'd rather see them treated as super-evos with some solid species characteristics. :shrug:
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:15 PM   #8
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>Maybe helping to update rules or something could be point-worthy

How much SP do I earn filling in all the blank SCs and improving some others?
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:30 PM   #9
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A lot of WP (Weebos points) if you give Gallade a good one,
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:36 PM   #10
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A few things to say:

As awesome as this may be, I feel that being able to use it in any given match without the other trainer's consent is a big no-no. Its just unfair.
The problem is that if anyone can refuse to fight legendaries by going "lolno", then there's almost no point to having them.

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Also this seems very unfair to non-refs, like Zora and myself, as well as the general newbies who have no realistic way of getting SP.
...become a ref? Refs already can get benefits like extra team slots, a ref badge and others, but now it's an issue?

That said, that doesn't preclude legendaries from being given out through non-SP methods.

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Also, I don't think I would necessarily feel comfortable with anybody other than an LO reffing the matches for capture.
Thats pretty much the general assumption. It's not like 60 SP is so easy to acquire that we're going to have dozens of legendary matches at once. One of the league's better-quality trainers will also be given control of the legendary for the duration of the capture match.

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Also powerful flying types >< and no fighters ><
No ghost legendaries here. And you're not already designing your gym/squad to deal with flyers?

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Also I would limit to one legendary per person.
I disagree, mainly because the rules as they stand put diminishing returns on having multiple legendaries (they're automatically a level over you, so you can't bring more than one without risk of disobedience).

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Depends on the gym, IMO. Some of the newer level 2-3 gym leaders? Sure. Leaders like me, Mozz, etc? Eh, probably not.

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And they shouldn't be allowed sig moves due to their immense power.
Maybe it needs to be spelled out better in the legendary post, but legendaries have the following "power" advantages over regular Pokemon:
1. they're one level above your trainer level (e.g. if I caught a Shaymin it would be level 5 since I'm a level 4 trainer).
2. the legendary is considered to have an evolutionary advantage against any non-legendary (e.g. a Latias is considered to be at a higher evolutionary stage than, say, a Blastoise).
3. the legendary has a more powerful sig than normal.

If your ref isn't an idiot, 1 and 2 should be an advantage, but not insurmountable (much like how level 2 Charmeleon vs. level 1 Charmander is not automatically a win for Charmeleon). 3 is obviously dependent on the trainer, but Muyo and RR have generally proven that they can be trusted to not approve retarded sig moves.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:40 PM   #11
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Sorry, Reed, no way am I battling a legendary, especially in my gym.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:41 PM   #12
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>The problem is that if anyone can refuse to fight legendaries by going "lolno", then there's almost no point to having them.

People are going to do it anyway. *shrug*



The other comments I generally understand.
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Sorry, Reed, no way am I battling a legendary, especially in my gym.
Yeah man, if I was the psychic gym leader I'd just throw in the towel if Articuno or Entei showed up, because legendaries are srs bzns. I mean, I would be really disappointed if the ghost gym leader brought, like, an Uxie instead of his ghost gym anal love train.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:47 PM   #14
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I don't trust the refs to ref them properly. It's just not something I want to deal with. I'd say we should at least ban them from gym matches, unless the gym leader uses one.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:48 PM   #15
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I don't trust the refs to ref them properly.
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Why is everyone making such a big deal about the possibility of fighting a legendary? They're slightly more powerful than your average level above, it's not like your opponent sends them out and you're instantly screwed.
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Then talk to me, RR or Muyo so we can set the record straight/take the ruler to the knuckles of derp derp refs. That's what we're fucking here for, after all.
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Require a certain grade to ref Legendaries used in normal matches?
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:57 PM   #19
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Why is everyone making such a big deal about the possibility of fighting a legendary? They're slightly more powerful than your average level above, it's not like your opponent sends them out and you're instantly screwed.
Because I want a level playing field in my matches. That's why they're all equiall. I can use Alakazam, my opponent can use Gengar, whatever. It's just unnecessary.
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Require a certain grade to ref Legendaries used in normal matches?
This is more genius brought by the Awesome.
Although most people would probably look for that when making the match anyway.

And I still definitely agree with Mozz on the gym bit.
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Require a certain grade to ref Legendaries used in normal matches?
Maybe B grade ref at minimum (although ATM I'm speaking for myself). Honestly though, I think most of the refs can handle it just fine (given an anime full of examples of Regice being pwned by Pikachu, Ariados pwning Latios and Charizard pwning Articuno). It's merely a matter of making sure it's spelled out clearly, since the announcement's wording appears to be confusing people.

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Because I want a level playing field in my matches. That's why they're all equiall. I can use Alakazam, my opponent can use Gengar, whatever. It's just unnecessary.
So you would rather have me bring Sableye/Gunbatisi(ghost/steel)/Spiritomb rather than one of the available legendaries? Sure, it's "even" in the sense that my non-legendaries would be the same level/evo as your Pokemon, but I'd argue that typing ultimately plays more of a defining role in battles than evo/level. But until Muyo rules either way it's all academic at this point so do what you want.
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I want to bring up Phione, who is not on this list.
Will it be available as a regular pokemon?
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So you would rather have me bring Sableye/Gunbatisi(ghost/steel)/Spiritomb rather than one of the available legendaries? Sure, it's "even" in the sense that my non-legendaries would be the same level/evo as your Pokemon, but I'd argue that typing ultimately plays more of a defining role in battles than evo/level. But until Muyo rules either way it's all academic at this point so do what you want.
Understood. I guess it has less to do with my gym, where people are going to bring the immunity fuck train than a gym where there isn't a natural immunity group :shrug: Still, as a goddamn level 6 (or close) trainer and LC and GL and all that jazz, it's pretty gay that I won't have one of the most powerful mon. WHO NEEDS A REF HARF HARF
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I want to bring up Phione, who is not on this list.
Will it be available as a regular pokemon?
Hasn't been ruled on yet. I've suggested level 4 or 5 acquirable Pokemon based on the fact that it's essentially a ghetto Manaphy, but that's not official.
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As soon as you get to lvl6 you get a free shot at a non-unique legend?
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