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=/ I feel really awkward now since this was the first epsode I even noticed/praised the animation too. I was too absorbed by the dialogue/action for the most part to even perceive the flaws. ^^; Rather, I noticed they were different, but didn't consider them as necessarily off. Kinda afraid to re-watch it now after hearing all the backlash, as I'll probably find myself looking for/getting distracted by those blemishes.
I don't care what other people say, I still consider this episode 9/10 material - if not 10/10. =< I was skeptical up until now, but I'm finally starting to believe it when
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I didn't really notice any animation gaffes because it was an exposition episode, and the previous one with Rin an exploratory/adventure one. I'm going to dismiss MAL's attitude just because it's the same community that rates Steins;Gate as one of anime's all-time family classics.
Actually, I probably forgot to mention this, but the Rin episode was ripped right out of Chaos;Head. That creepy/atmospheric approach is extraordinarily similar to the C;H's game rendition of Takumi walking down the dark alleys of dreamworld Shibuya. It was probably Nitro+ service over anything else, much less loli.
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Food for thought?
People have been singling out this screenshot from the last F/Z episode. Looks familiar? That gent's attire resembles remarkably like a tie, and his attire is noticeable at odds with the Greek phalangites. He could be taken for a priest, or a mage. Spoiler: show
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MAJOR spoilers for Yuki. She has no idea who the guy you hyperlinked even is. Would delete that reference altogether if I were you, not to mention putting the rest into a spoiler box.
Yuki, DON'T READ. Spoiler: show For me to be convinced that this theory is true, I'd have to hear it from Gen's or Nasu's lips himself. Guess we'll just have to see. Throwing it out there right now that I'm not going to like it one bit if this theory proves to be true because of the first two reasons I mentioned in my three-part argument above.
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Spoiler: show In other words, you can't summon Joe Schmoe as Joe Schmoe as a servant. You can summon Joe Schmoe as Epic Dude, and you can summon Epic Dude as Epic Dude, but you can't summon Joe Schmoe as Joe Schmoe. Hence the seeming interchangeability of the two terms, even if they refer to strictly different concepts. (E.g. it would be wrong to call you know who a "Heroic Spirit", technically, but at the same time he's very much so standing in for someone who is quite legendary.) In any event, I actually agree with you about the whole "they're more a part of Rider's summon than they are separately-summoned entities," and I actually discussed this with Yuki on Skype. In brief ... Yuki-safe: Spoiler: show I don't know if this in the book or how it jives with your personal interpretation of Throne of Heroes physics or not, but the episode clearly made a point of saying that even a mount can itself be considered a Heroic Spirit (as opposed to be considered a Noble Phantasm) if the mount was sufficiently legendary. I thought this was kind of interesting, though I'd feel pretty bad for the master who happened to summon a steed instead of a warrior. ^^; Quote:
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12-17-2011, 10:03 PM | #312 |
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I can't download it because of space concerns, but look at the Readme. Typically, you load the .img, .ccd or .iso file into a virtual drive like Daemon Tools, and you either install it in Japanese, or the English patch installs it for you once you've loaded the disk and launch the .exe.
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If you don't know what a virtual drive is, it's software that tricks your computer into thinking you have extra drives of whatever kinds you'd like it to think -- usually optical media drives so that, in turn, you can load .iso files (the raw data rips of optical discs) into the virtual drive and have your computer mistakenly believe that you just put a physical DVD into a physical DVD-ROM disc tray.
You'll need this software to install pretty much any .iso. Your only other option, a lesser option, is to spend one disc per .iso and to burn the blank DVDs as image discs. In this particular case, that's less preferred because (in addition to other reasons) you have additional files besides the .isos that you're going to want to have handy while installing the game. It's generally better to do the installation via virtual drive. Fewer optical discs spent on backing up the data and everything on hand right where you need it when you need it. Virtual drive softwares include: Daemon Tools Alcohol 120% Both used to be free, then Alcohol went Paying Customers Only (more or less), and now both of them have (more or less). But you should be able to use Daemon Tools Lite just fine. That's what I use (@ WinXP SP3) and I like it.
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Watched episode 12 before heading home. Not much to say this time, since it was mostly exposition. A lot of little tie-ins to FSN though that you'll definitely appreciate more after playing the game. Spoiler: show
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It was a nice touch when Gil was telling Kotomine about stealing another Servant. Look at what chess piece he picked up before telling him to do it on his own.
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I watched Fate/Zero Episode 12 tonight. It was another good, solid episode. I felt very similarly about this one as I did last week's -- lots of exposition, yes, but good exposition, the sort of stuff I like in a prequel story like this. It was also great to see that the animation budget was back up to snuff. Probably at the expense of next week's episode, as I'm sure we'll doubtless discover. ^^; But yeah: from single blades of grass in an overgrown yard to the way in which Gil's and Kirei's faces were drawn during their long chat, it was clear that whoever fucked up last week's episode was either whipped into shape or else fired and that ufotable must have gotten as much rage from the Japanese fans as they unknowingly got from us in the English-speaking world, too. Also like last week's episode, this one gets off to a fun yet inexplicably "slow-feeling" start, with things really picking up in the second half.
Spoiler: show Show a good episode, get a long essay from Talon. You've done well, ufotable. You've done very well. After fucking up what should have been one of the series' best episodes, you showed that you were able to rebound this time and turn an episode chock-filled with talking into one heck of an interesting watch. Looking forward to watching this one once more tomorrow with UTW. EDIT: Your observation with the chess piece, Doppel, was obvious too. C'mon, guys. ^^; These are not easter eggs. Go back and watch that scene again with the subs turned off, Doppel. You'll find that that's all the screen focuses on for like a good solid 5 seconds. It's hard not to notice, "Hey! He's toying with HIS piece as he tells Kirei to steal a Servant!" ^^;
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Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking not ending the season with the last episode. It's probably pretty difficult to get fourteen weeks rather than thirteen, or to get at least one one-hour timeslot rather than the typical thirty-minute timeslot, but this is Fate/Zero: you'd think they could do it. Get fourteen weeks in Spring 2012 (either snatching the last week in the Winter 2012 season from some other show or else hogging up the first week in the Summer 2012 season from some other show) and have a fourteen-episode second season. This week's episode, due to Kiritsugu's scene alone, would have made for a great season opener. Kirei's and Gilgamesh's scene is what lent the episode its meat, and Irisviel's and Saber's scene helps to draw the imaginary line in the sand between the first half and the second half.
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Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu S1: 14 episodes
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu S2: 14 episodes Mahoromatic S2: 14 episodes Is it common? No. But you can do it, especially when you're a juggernaut. Haruhi was a juggernaut. So is Fate/Zero. I rest my case.
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From what I've read, Fate/Zero doesn't have that kind of clout. The only current anime that has the power to influence next season's scheduling appears to be Persona 4. We probably won't be getting sales results until a few months from now, but if F/Z sells well, we could see a lopsided second season when it next airs.
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While it could always be a West vs. East thing, MAL has Fate/Zero clocked in at 15th Place for all-time most popular series. But I don't think that it is such a thing: because I see more Fate/Zero fanart on Pixiv's Top Daily and Top Weekly charts than I see Touhou. Touhou, Doppel. So ....... no. I'm thinking that Fate/Zero has a lot of clout and will be selling handsomely this spring.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see to see who's right.
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Still haven't watched Episode 13, but I do have some good news! Quoting UTW's weblog:
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I watched Episode 13 yesterday. I enjoyed it so much that I wanted to watch it again before posting. I didn't get around to watching it again, though, until this evening; but now that I've seen it twice, I'm ready to write up my post.
A Team Rider-heavy episode, Episode 13 ended up being one of my favorite episodes of the series. And when I say Team Rider-heavy, I mean heavy: easily 50% of the allotted airtime focuses squarely on Waver's relationship with Rider. Another reason why this episode will stand out now and in the future is because of its cliffhanger ending. You might even call it the epic cliffhanger to end all epic cliffhangers. Oooooor you might just settle for it being the cliffhanger of the year. Regardless, the episode ends in all the right ways, from the music and excitement to the inside-jokes (I <3 you, Waver! ) and the animation. Like I told Yuki on Skype, it would be a travesty if ufotable inexplicably went bankrupt and closed up shop between now and April and we never got to see the rest of Fate/Zero animated. That's just how good ("good"? ) of a cliffhanger the ending is. Now, lest I get you too excited, Dear Reader: no, this episode isn't quite as epic as the first episode with the summonings. And no, dear reader, it isn't as epic as the Reality Marble which debuted in Episode 11, either. I personally enjoyed it a lot. Your mileage may vary. But I think that, by the time you reach the end of the episode, you'll have enjoyed it too. A bad episode it is not. Spoiler: show
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