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Murder has never been legal in human society. Young marriage on the other hand, has. Murder takes life from people. Young marriage gives life to people. My argument is that, perhaps, just perhaps, maybe these "harmful effects" we're associating with child molestation, are not actually a result of sexual contact, but rather a result of the forced or otherwise violent and disrespectful nature of the act. And that within the parameters of a healthy relationship, such harmful effects are nonexistant, or at least, no worse than any other occurrences in life. Quote:
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And I would appreciate it if you would cease to insult and falsely accuse me. Honestly, in any professional forum such immature behavior would not be tolerated. Quote:
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As for making the argument about historical precedence being dangerous, let me deal with that. If there are specific issues you would like me to address, that you feel undermine my argument, I'll be happy to address them and show why they don't. Who am I kidding? You don't care at all for my opinion, except to rip me a new one. Why should I waste my time with someone as brutish as that? Quote:
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Small chest, flat chest, fair chest, mega-bust, what's the difference between liking one or the other? And I said absolutely nothing about having relations. You know... I really wonder why I bother replying to people like you. Maybe some part of me hopes that someday you'll learn how to treat others with respect, even when you disagree with them, but alas, I fear it is a lost cause. |
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It should also be mentioned that a plethora of women online have admitted to having relationships with people in said example category and almost all of them have said it was traumatic, a bad idea etc. with the only people who agree are ones who have never experienced it. Quote:
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Pedophilia is a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty varies). The prepubescent child must be at least five years younger than the adolescent before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia. Also having sex with someone below the legal age is statutory rape. Quote:
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I would like to say that we share one thing in common, I too am a fan of small-breasted women but I like mine on women my age whereas you like yours on children. My reasons are probably different to yours but mine are; perfectly hand-sized squezes, no bra and sports tops on hot days, nipples, strapless dresses, no sagging and looks better on an athletic women (my kind of woman, no less.) Just thought I'd let you know that we actually fucking agree on one topic before you leave forever. Have a nice life though. Last edited by Treepandaone; 10-22-2012 at 10:10 AM. |
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Like I'm not anti-religious, I have a degree in Religious Studies and Philosophy so I'm pretty open minded towards all religious beliefs, and I'm gay so I guess I'm personally offended by a lot of what you write. I've experienced my fair share of anti-gay behaviour in my life, and I've read bucketloads of religious and non-religious based anti-LGBT views/articles/whatever. And every single one gives me the most sick feeling in my stomach, I guess it must be kind of like the feeling you feel when you read the bucketload of abuse people throw at you. But you have genuinely made me lose all sympathy I have had towards you. I can't begin to describe just how offensive this is. I know you speak of homosexuality as a group rather than aiming these comments at anyone specifically, but I do take it personally. As would most other LGBT identifying people. I can't really help it. So I guess I'm more offended that you've compared me (along with other really great people here, like Jeri, Kairne etc.) to paedophiles. Which in my view (and I imagine the view of pretty much everyone on this board) is one of the most disgusting horrible morally-corrupt actions that the human race is capable of. I know everyone's entitled to an opinion, and I'm accepting of that fact. I've done my fair share of LGBT defending in the past, both academically and in 'real life' so to speak but there's no way I can even begin to entertain an opinion so diluted with LGBT hatred to the extent you'd ever write paedophilia and homosexuality in the same sentence. Even just for the context of a debate. Like there's hating gay people, or homosexuality, or whatever. But then there's comparing it to paedphilia. That's something else. I hate getting into debate threads, so I don't usually post in them. But that just got to me so much I hate to write something even if it doesn't really continue the debate or respond to you in a decent manner. |
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Oh shit. Stu got mad.
holy Christ I never want to see that again.
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The law doesn't frown upon it. In fact some politicians encourage such sexual relations when both are under-aged and unwed (such as desiring to make condoms available to 12 year olds) Quote:
Firstly, these are unwed relationships. If we were to look at relationships where the partners married, would we see the same results? Secondly, these relationships have both partied being underaged. If one party was not underaged, and both parties were married, would we again see the same results? Quote:
What I don't understand though, is how any sort of mental diagnosis can provide such arbitrary numbers. How can pedophilia just "suddenly appear" in a 16 year old when there was no previous precedence for it? And how can such a medical disorder distinguish an age gap of no less than 5 years? It makes no sense. None whatsoever. Quote:
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Although, in the very strictest sense, pedophilia is similar to homosexuality, and heterosexuality, and bestiality, and monosexuality, in that they are all a particular sexual attraction to a particular thing. That is all I was trying to say there. Quote:
IMO, it is the rape, abuse, abuse of trust, and the forcing of themselves on children that is so utterly detestable, this goes for the offenders whether they are married or unmarried to their victim. If sexual relations were to occur in a mutually approved and lawfully recognized marriage, in a loving manner, treating the young spouse as an equal rather than an object of self-satisfaction, I would fully support them. In such a similar manner as this. Now, you say you feel offended when you read my general comments on homosexuality (assuming in the gay marriage thread as I've tried to keep them out of this one). I can understand how you might feel this way, but I don't know what to say to you. I feel just as personally offended that the LGBT community is seeking to redefine marriage, which, in my opinion, is a very specific institution designed for a singular purpose, incompatible with their desired redefinition. That's not to say I desire to keep rights away from them however, or in any way make them as second class citizens. If I'm not mistaken, there is such a thing as a legal union, which is similar to marriage but is not so limited to male-female, so I don't understand why they yet demand the perversion of the institution of marriage notwithstanding. Quote:
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10-22-2012, 04:43 PM | #32 |
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