02-23-2008, 10:29 PM | #1 |
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Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Following about 8 years after Phoenix Wright- Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations, the game starts anew with Apollo Justice as a rookie defense lawyer. His first trial: Prove Phoenix Wright innocent of murder!
Amazing game! Trial one is longer than the first trial of Trials & Tribulations, which was pretty long IIRC. Additionally, there's all the great fun stuff from [Bonus] Trial 5 of the first Ace Attorney like examining evidence. Additionally, trial one has an insane plot twist I never saw coming! I still have yet to complete it and I started like a bit more than an hour ago! GET THE GAME! |
02-27-2008, 04:33 PM | #2 |
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Re: Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Mr. Prosecutor was pathetic for Case 2, but I grew to like him in Case 3. Now I'm halfway through Case 4, and just confirmed what I suspected since the middle of Case 1, and I think is about to get totally awesome.
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03-03-2008, 02:36 PM | #3 |
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I JUST beat this overnight, and I have to say while I was a bit disappointed with Case 4, one of the twists at the end really amazed me. I thought the entire game was awesome overall, and I'll agree that case 4-1 kicked the crap out of the previous case 1s due to length as well as the twist in it.
Here's to hoping for GS5 for more Apollo and Trucy exploits. :D
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03-04-2008, 12:31 AM | #4 |
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I'm stuck on Case 3 and I only play during my lunch break so it's not really a long time to get things solved.
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03-07-2008, 04:08 PM | #6 |
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I got my copy earlier this week! But I'm only alil bit into case 2 so far cause these games suck my poor DS battery dry fast. -_- The end of that first case made me not so happy! I liked the cool 3D crime scene stuff much more fun then point out where people are on those old 2d maps! Does this one have 4 cases or 5?
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03-21-2008, 04:08 PM | #8 |
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I finished it last week or so. SOooooo awesome best one yet!
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05-28-2008, 11:31 PM | #9 |
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I got the game when at launch and played it almost non-stop until I beat it (took me about 36 hours). The cases were great (especially the final one), but I'm one of the people that prefers Phoenix over Apollo. I mean, Apollo was pathetic. It felt to me like he didn't have any control over the court proceedings. He was just there, like a dead weight, letting Klavier lead him on and being used by Phoenix as a pawn for his own purposes. I don't despise him like my sister does, but I'd like Phoenix back plzthx. Trucy, Klavier, and Ema are great supporting characters...it's just too bad there's such a pathetic lead. :P
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Sorry to bump this 4 and a half year old thread, but I just finished the game after putting off the last case for a couple years.
And man, it was quite a case. It should be renamed to Turnabout: Plot Twist. Seriously, M Night Shyamalan would wet himself playing this. Anyway, I still don't like Apollo that much, but the game is solid, right on par with PW2 and 3 in my opinion.
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The final case pretty much sells the game. It's probably my favorite case in the entire franchise. (And given Game 2 Case 2, Game 2 Case 4, and Game 3 Case 5, that's saying quite a lot.) "Turnabout Plot Twist," or perhaps simply "Turnabout" period, indeed. They took what excited people about Game 2 Case 4 and Game 3 Case 5 ... and maxed out the meter. Incroyable.
But yes, Apollo Justice remains the black sheep in the family for so many unfortunate reasons, not the least of which is that the cast of characters in the game just isn't as lovable or memorable as the cast in the first two games. Franziska never really lived up to Edgeworth for me, and neither did Godot, but I'd take either one of them over Klavier Gavin. (His character design alone bugs the fuck out of me! >_<) And I think the problem of "flair over substance" plagues most of the other problem characters as well. Who cares about a man with a half-filled bowl of noodles on his head? Or a mafia family who all look like woodland creatures? Or the white "HOLY FUCK I JUST SOILED MYSELF" creepy pedo-rapist you don't want to run into in a dark alley version of Steve Urkel? La Mystoire? The other Borginian characters? Probably my favorite supporting cast character in the game is Uncle Valant: and even he's plagued by the gaudy levels of flair in Game 4. ^^; That stated, I think this black sheep gets way too much criticism from the community and I think Case 4 is so solid, so very, very "I ......... wow ", that one can't toss the game into the dustbin. I know I personally would love to see various Ace Attorney 4 characters return in Ace Attorney 5. I can only hope the AA5 staff agrees. Game 4 and possibly Game 5 spoilers in the strictest sense (can safely click once you've beaten the game) Spoiler: show
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In response to your spoiler boxed question of do I remember {spoiler}, yes, of course I remember.
Spoiler: show Also, now that you've beaten the game ... you can enjoy Peachi's/Daisy's comics! (No, not our Daisy. ^^; ) Spoiler: show
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Alright, so, having recently re-completed Ace Attorney 3, the next stop on my Ace Attorney tour is of course Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, a.k.a. Ace Attorney 4 or simply AA4 for short. The first time I played this game was also the last -- some time back around 2009 or 2010. So it's been a good five to six years since then, and the time is ripe for a revisit. Last night I started playing the game, and I saved mere minutes before the end of the first case and called it a night. This morning I picked up where I left off and completed the case, post-verdict story and all, in under ten minutes. Spoilers for Case 1 and Case 1 only. Spoiler: show Spoilers for the end of the game, but pertaining to Case 1: Spoiler: show
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Currently about halfway through Case 2. (Mildest spoilerific way I know how to tell people how far I am found below.)
Spoiler: show I'm enjoying the game so far quite a bit. Man is it the black sheep of the family though! You can really tell just how hard they tried to be new and awesome, and just how badly that would have backfired on them with many a fan. I'm much more forgiving in 2015 than I think I was in 2009/10, although I recall that even in 2010 I was quite the apologist for this game. And "apologist" isn't the right word in my opinion! Because I do genuinely think the game is good, while a term like "apologist" makes it sound like I secretly admit the game is a turd but publicly I want to defend it. Anyway, digression: the point is, I'm having more fun with the game now, I think, and I credit that to being more laid back towards it, more accepting of it as canon, warts and all. Case 2 discussion follows. Pretty light on spoilers, and spoilers only cover up to where I am in the game at present. Spoiler: show What follows contains spoilers through the very end of Case 2, so read on only if you've cleared the case completely. Spoiler: show
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Completed Case 2. Handy-dandy 3DS app indicates that my current playtime is 7 hours 50 minutes, and before when I completed Case 1 it said that it was 2 hours 37 minutes; and so doing a simple bit of arithmetic, we see that it took me 5 hours 23 minutes to complete Case 2.
Honestly? It felt a bit shorter than that. Maybe like around 4 hours or so. I was actually quite surprised by just how short everything was in this case, how quickly everything moved along except for when I had no fucking idea of what to present or examine next during investigation phases because OH MY GOD, THIS CASE. ^^; Yeah, sometimes this case's navigation isn't the best. But those unintended time sinks aside, everything went by so fast. (Trial phases? No problem. It was just the investigation phases that ... *inhale hiss* ^^;; ) Spoiler: show One thing that the game never did explain was: Spoiler: show One thing I'm kinda sad about on my replay is: Spoiler: show Oh, btw: all spoiler tags are safe for first-timers who just beat Case 2 themselves. No downstream spoilers in any of them. Oh, and whoops: one last thing to bring up real quick. Spoiler: show
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Currently halfway through Case 3. Specifically: (click if you think you're this far in order to confirm it)
Spoiler: show So! Thoughts! (Safe to click if you're as far in the case as what I indicated in the box above.) Spoiler: show Spoilers for the very end of the game: Spoiler: show
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Completed Case 3. Current playtime is 13 hours 59 minutes, so subtracting the previous playtime indicates a Case 3 playtime of 6 hours 9 minutes. Approximately five to fifteen minutes were spent today with the 3DS just sitting at the menu screen while I checked my phone real quick, so the actual case completion time is a little less but oh well -- we'll treat it as 6 hours 9 minutes because there's no use crying over spilt milk.
Case 3 discussion: Spoiler: show I'll probably start Case 4 either some time much later tonight or else not until tomorrow or Thursday. We'll see.
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Case 4. Currently about (if I had to guess) two-thirds of the way through the first day of court. Details after the break to help you gauge if you can read yet:
Spoiler: show The case has been fun so far. The story has been an interesting blend of stuff I remembered and stuff I completely forgot. The Ema Skye side of things has been a blast, even if (admittedly) it's largely on rails and does a good job of disguising that fact. But most of what I'll want to discuss is only safe for people who have already beaten the entire game, so ... Spoiler: show Okay, a few things of discussion I thought to save for those who are playing the case for the very first time. (This next spoiler box is safe for you to read even if you're a first-time player so long as you've reached where I am right now.) Spoiler: show
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Recommended reading: Conviction rate in Japan Recommended viewing: HERO (TV), Sore demo Boku wa Yattenai (film; Wikipedia plot blurb spoils outcome)
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Last night, I finished what I would consider to be "Case 4 proper" and docked onto what I confused for a fifth case a few weeks back but which I now realize the game makers considered to be more like a "Case 4.2" or just simply "the continuation of one enormous Case 4." I guess to put it simply ... (the return of the nested spoiler tagged breadcrumb clues!)
Spoiler: show So if you're at least that far, then by all means click the next spoiler box and read all of my thoughts on the case up to this point. (Safe for first-time players too!) Spoiler: show Alright. And now for the discussion that is only safe for veterans who have cleared the entire game. Spoiler: show
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Finished the next major installment of Case 4. (Nested spoiler tags follow to help first-time players to find out if they're as far along in the plot as I currently am.)
Spoiler: show So if you're good to go, then by all means click this next spoiler box. (Safe even for first-time players.) Spoiler: show This next box is only safe to click on if you've completed the entire game. Spoiler: show
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