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Old 02-18-2012, 08:36 PM   #126
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Gravity Bind was never a bad card, but almost no one used it and I don't know why. However, that + Wall of Revealing Light made for a decent combo if you could also get a card on the field that pumped your life points every turn and another card that negated monster effects (so, no Jinzo). Deadly combo, basically locks your opponent into not being able to do anything. Throw in Spell Jammer and they may as well forfeit.
My first full English deck that I actually put some thought into was a Fire Princess burn deck which rocked people's pants off. I managed to keep that deck together for years, tweaking it when new cards were added (Injection Angel Lily and Level Limit Area B, y'all are my heroes) and that served me really well all the way up until Chaos Emperor Dragon came out- Love hate relationship with that card (I loved the design, hated him used against me) so I made an additional Chaos deck- which was the style at the time. Never used the "nuke a Sangan for Yata" combo though, would've felt all kinds of unclean. Then when Limiter removal was unlimited I made my Machine Deck, which was the most fun due to the ludicrous attack I was able to raise my dudes to.

Wow, this is turning into a tl;dr and I haven't even gotten to my best deck. Part 2 later!
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Chaos Beatdown/Field Control -

A lot of the focus here is on bringing monsters back from the grave and removed from play while keeping the opponents side of the field as clean as possible.

Deck: 43 cards (Note: This deck may not be tourney legal anymore)

Monsters: 16

Bazoo the Soul Eater x 2
Breaker the Magical Warrior
Chaos Sorcerer x2
Cyber Dragon x2
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrior Lady
Dark Magician of Chaos
Exarion Universe
Exiled Force
Jinzo
Magician of Faith
Ninja Grandmaster Sasuke
Sangan

Spell Cards: 17

Brain Control
Dark Hole
Dimension Fusion x2
The Forceful Sentry
Heavy Storm
Lightning Vortex (Legal Raigeki)
Mage Power
Monster Reincarnation
MST
Pot of Avarice
Premature Burial
Reinforcement Army
Scapegoat
Smashing Ground
Snatch Steal (Legal Change of Heart)
Swords of Revealing Light

Trap Cards: 10

Bottomless Trap Hole
Call of the Haunted
Dust Tornado
Magic Cylinder (Fucking love this card)
Magic Jammer
Mirror Force
Pikeru's Circle of Enchantment
Sakuretsu Armor
Torrential Tribute
Widespread Ruin


Spare cards for traditional format:
Change of Heart
Yata Garasu
D.D. Assailant
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:51 PM   #128
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Spare cards for traditional format:
Change of Heart
Yata Garasu
D.D. Assailant
Not to nitpick, but no Chaos Emperor or Black Luster Soldier Envoy for a Traditional format? Even if you don't want to Witch or Sangan Yata with CED, Black Luster Soldier is tan man and Chaos Sorcerer is lotion boy.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:00 PM   #129
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Not to nitpick, but no Chaos Emperor or Black Luster Soldier Envoy for a Traditional format? Even if you don't want to Witch or Sangan Yata with CED, Black Luster Soldier is tan man and Chaos Sorcerer is lotion boy.
I used to have Chaos Emperor, but I don't know what happened to it.

I always had BLSEotB and he was a staple in my deck, but again, wasn't in my binder. Not sure where he went

I didn't find myself playing traditional that often so it wasn't very important to me, but I loved my BLS. It was one of my favorite cards. Mighta traded it. Mighta sold it. Mighta been stolen (happened to me quite a bit). I'm not sure.
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You guys might be pleased to know that BLS Envoy is legal again. You can run 1 of him in your deck... He's as broken now as ever
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:57 PM   #131
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Phoopes and I just dueled. I was using a deck that was beating more experienced players than myself and Phoopes almost beat it.
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:06 PM   #132
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Phoopes and I just dueled. I was using a deck that was beating more experienced players than myself and Phoopes almost beat it.
I was going to win too, if it weren't for those meddling kids that one really troll card you used at the end that's been around forever that I completely forgot about.
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:10 PM   #133
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I've tried playing World Championship edition 2011. For the most part, I'm having trouble being patient enough to wait through the first duel. I mean...amazingly enough, I still remember all of the rules and everything, but the COMPUTER TAKES SO GOD DAMN LONG TO MAKE A MOVE! Sometimes it's only a few seconds, but sometimes it's several minutes. It's especially irritating, since my turns take 30 seconds at the most.

I like the addition of customizing your own duelist. I know it's pretty standard to every game nowadays, but I still like it as opposed to the GBA Yu-Gi-Oh's making you faceless and bodyless. The fact that it lets you choose your own dialogue is nice too.

Oh, one more thing. They banned the fucking Magician of Faith! What the shit?! In the previous game, I used the fuck out of that card.

I'll see how this game plays out, and hopefully I'll pick up a new strategy along the way. I just remembered that in the previous game I played, I simply dumped almost everything of mine in the graveyard and played everything from there.
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I'll see how this game plays out, and hopefully I'll pick up a new strategy along the way. I just remembered that in the previous game I played, I simply dumped almost everything of mine in the graveyard and played everything from there.
Run plants. Something with lonefire blossom, dandylion, spore, glow-up bulb, sangan, debris dragon, junk synchron, and the like. Run one for one, foolish burial, call of the haunted, and other stuff, and focus on synchro summoning out of your graveyard.

That deck was tier 1 in that format, and revolves completely around the graveyard
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:53 AM   #135
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You guys might be pleased to know that BLS Envoy is legal again. You can run 1 of him in your deck... He's as broken now as ever
Fuck, as much as I love him I'm not sure I should be happy about that, though it tempts me to want to buy another one since mine is gone...

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy is so fucking OP. Especially in chaos and DD decks, which is why he has a perfect spot in mine. Removing cards from play in my deck is like a huge benefit... and he's just like "hey guys, is it cool if I come in here for a while and just fuck your shit up with this godly 3000 base attack and attack twice in a row? Sweet." Lay down some face down spells/traps and equip mage power to him = 5500 attack points, oh my god

GOD HE WAS SUCH A GOOD CARD WHY DO I NOT HAVE HIM ANYMORE
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So I signed up for that site and I'm making a deck when...

FUCK KONAMI IN THE FUCKING FACE! FUCK!

My deck is RUINED.

>No Dimension Fusion (which half my fucking deck revolves around, even trad. only allows for ONE)
>No DMOC
>No Magician of Faith
>No Forceful Sentry
>No SNATCH STEAL!?
>NO BRAIN CONTROL?!


FUCK FUCK FUCK SADFJ;SAVSAJV;KEOGVOESRNKMVKON

YEAH I'M MAD

I'm making a traditional deck for now, but can anyone help an old timer like me find suitable replacements for these guys for Advanced format?

edit: WTF? XYZ isn't just a group like Gravekeepers? IT'S A FUCKING CARD TYPE NOW?

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Trying to stay with competitive decks, the closest thing I can think of to your deck is a classic Anti-Meta deck... something like this:

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MONSTERS: [17]
[01x] Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind
[02x] Breaker the Magical Warrior
[02x] D.D. Warrior Lady
[02x] Effect Veiler
[03x] Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo
[02x] Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
[01x] Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
[01x] Spirit Reaper
[03x] Thunder King Rai-Oh

SPELLS: [09]
[01x] Book of Moon
[01x] Dark Hole
[02x] Forbidden Lance
[03x] Pot of Duality
[02x] Smashing Ground

TRAPS: [14]
[02x] Compulsory Evacuation Device
[01x] Dark Bribe
[02x] Dimensional Prison
[02x] Fiendish Chain
[01x] Mirror Force
[02x] Safe Zone
[01x] Solemn Judgment
[02x] Solemn Warning
[01x] Starlight Road

SIDE DECK: [15]
[02x] Banisher of the Radiance
[02x] Bottomless Trap Hole
[02x] Chain Disappearance
[02x] Cyber Dragon
[02x] Doomcaliber Knight
[03x] Macro Cosmos
[02x] Mystical Space Typhoon

EXTRA DECK: [15]
[01x] Ally of Justice Catastor
[01x] Arcanite Magician
[01x] Black Rose Dragon
[01x] Blackwing Armed Wing
[01x] Blackwing Armor Master
[01x] Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
[01x] Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
[01x] Leviair the Sea Dragon
[01x] Number 17: Leviathan Dragon
[01x] Number 39: Utopia
[01x] Orient Dragon
[01x] Scrap Dragon
[01x] Stardust Dragon
[01x] Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
[01x] Wind-Up Zenmaines
You can also just throw BLS into this deck, if you want, and make it 41 cards... there's room.
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>Tries using Wind Up deck

I quit on the second turn. Those monsters are pretty retarded. I'm just gonna stick to my Nurse and/or Fish decks.
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Think you'd all like to know the March 2012 ban list was leaked:

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Substitoad
Victory Dragon
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Sinister Serpent
Glow-Up Bulb <--- **NEW**
Witch of the Black Forest
Goyo Guardian
Dark Magician of Chaos
Cyber Jar
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Makyura the Destroyer
Spore <---** NEW**
Magician of Faith
Dark Strike Fighter
Tsukuyomi
Destiny Hero - Disk Commander
Cyber-Stein
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier <--- **NEW**
Fiber Jar
Fishborg Blaster
Magical Scientist
Mind Master
Yata-Garasu
Rescue Cat
Mirage of Nightmare
Delinquent Duo
Temple of the Kings
Confiscation
Painful Choice
The Forceful Sentry
Snatch Steal
Pot of Greed
Change of Heart
Raigeki
Dimension Fusion
Card of Safe Return
Brain Control
Cold Wave
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Premature Burial
Giant Trunade
Mass Driver
Metamorphosis
Last Will
Royal Oppression
Imperial Order
Exchange of Spirit
Crush Card Virus
Sixth Sense
Trap Dustshoot <--- **NEW**
Time Seal
Ring of Destruction
Last Turn

* **Limited**
Elemental Hero Stratos
Honest
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Gladiator Beast Bestiari
Sangan
The Agent of Mistery - Earth <--- **NEW**
Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En
Plaguespreader Zombie
Dark Armed Dragon
Dandylion
T.G. Striker <--- **NEW**
T.G. Hyper Librarian
Debris Dragon
Night Assailant
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Necroface
Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Exodia the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Formula Synchron
Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow
Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind
Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
Mezuki
Morphing Jar
Lonefire Blossom
Burial from the Different Dimension
Infernity Launcher
Heavy Storm
Foolish Burial
Black Whirlwind
Primal Seed
Advanced Ritual Art
Monster Reborn
Scapegoat
Mind Control
Reinforcement of the Army
Book of Moon
Card Destruction
Pot of Avarice
Charge of the Light Brigade
Dark Hole
Future Fusion
Reasoning
Monster Gate
Allure of Darkness
Limiter Removal
Gateway of the Six
One for One
Return from the Different Dimension
Solemn Judgment
Mirror Force
Ceasefire
The Transmigration Prophecy
Wall of Revealing Light
Magical Explosion

*Semi-Limited:
Card Trooper
Summoner Monk
Archlord Kristya
Destiny Hero - Malicious
Tragoedia
Necro Gardna
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier
Marshmallon <--- **NEW**
Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner <--- **NEW**
Royal Tribute
Emergency Teleport <--- **NEW**
Shien's Smoke Signal <--- **NEW**
Chain Strike
Destiny Draw
Swords of Revealing Light
Magical Stone Excavation
Level Limit - Area B <--- **NEW**
Ojama Trio
Solemn Warning
Torrential Tribute <--- **NEW**
Ultimate Offering <--- **NEW**
Bottomless Trap Hole
Mind Crush
Magical Cylinder
Reborn Tengu* <--- **NEW**

* **Unlimited**:
Call of the Haunted <--- **NEW**

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Think you'd all like to know the March 2012 ban list was leaked:

Spoiler: show
* **Forbidden**:
Substitoad
Victory Dragon
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Sinister Serpent
Glow-Up Bulb <--- **NEW**
Witch of the Black Forest
Goyo Guardian
Dark Magician of Chaos
Cyber Jar
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Makyura the Destroyer
Spore <---** NEW**
Magician of Faith
Dark Strike Fighter
Tsukuyomi
Destiny Hero - Disk Commander
Cyber-Stein
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier <--- **NEW**
Fiber Jar
Fishborg Blaster
Magical Scientist
Mind Master
Yata-Garasu
Rescue Cat
Mirage of Nightmare
Delinquent Duo
Temple of the Kings
Confiscation
Painful Choice
The Forceful Sentry
Snatch Steal
Pot of Greed
Change of Heart
Raigeki
Dimension Fusion
Card of Safe Return
Brain Control
Cold Wave
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Graceful Charity
Harpie's Feather Duster
Premature Burial
Giant Trunade
Mass Driver
Metamorphosis
Last Will
Royal Oppression
Imperial Order
Exchange of Spirit
Crush Card Virus
Sixth Sense
Trap Dustshoot <--- **NEW**
Time Seal
Ring of Destruction
Last Turn

* **Limited**
Elemental Hero Stratos
Honest
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Gladiator Beast Bestiari
Sangan
The Agent of Mistery - Earth <--- **NEW**
Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En
Plaguespreader Zombie
Dark Armed Dragon
Dandylion
T.G. Striker <--- **NEW**
T.G. Hyper Librarian
Debris Dragon
Night Assailant
Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Necroface
Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Exodia the Forbidden One
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Formula Synchron
Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow
Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind
Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
Mezuki
Morphing Jar
Lonefire Blossom
Burial from the Different Dimension
Infernity Launcher
Heavy Storm
Foolish Burial
Black Whirlwind
Primal Seed
Advanced Ritual Art
Monster Reborn
Scapegoat
Mind Control
Reinforcement of the Army
Book of Moon
Card Destruction
Pot of Avarice
Charge of the Light Brigade
Dark Hole
Future Fusion
Reasoning
Monster Gate
Allure of Darkness
Limiter Removal
Gateway of the Six
One for One
Return from the Different Dimension
Solemn Judgment
Mirror Force
Ceasefire
The Transmigration Prophecy
Wall of Revealing Light
Magical Explosion

*Semi-Limited:
Card Trooper
Summoner Monk
Archlord Kristya
Destiny Hero - Malicious
Tragoedia
Necro Gardna
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier
Marshmallon <--- **NEW**
Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner <--- **NEW**
Royal Tribute
Emergency Teleport <--- **NEW**
Shien's Smoke Signal <--- **NEW**
Chain Strike
Destiny Draw
Swords of Revealing Light
Magical Stone Excavation
Level Limit - Area B <--- **NEW**
Ojama Trio
Solemn Warning
Torrential Tribute <--- **NEW**
Ultimate Offering <--- **NEW**
Bottomless Trap Hole
Mind Crush
Magical Cylinder
Reborn Tengu* <--- **NEW**

* **Unlimited**:
Call of the Haunted <--- **NEW**
Trishula banned; fuck yes.
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Level Limit Area B back to two per deck? Messenger of Peace and Gravity Bind unlimited? Nice.
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Trishula banned; fuck no.
Fixed. At least I won't have to change it until March, which gives me time to find a suitable replacement.
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So I got some advice over on r/yugioh,tl;dr I was told I'm behind in the times and need to accept that I need new cards, even though a lot of my deck is still acceptable.

Meh.

Don't know if I want to bother with it. Getting the right cards you need is like an adventure, but time consuming and expensive. Maybe I'll just fuck around on dueling network.
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^ Would not recommend getting back into the spending craze with this. Finding tons of people on UPN with whom to play digitally =/= finding tons of people with whom to play IRL in Kentucky. Not only that, but even if you do decide to go to a local comic book shop or gaming shop and participate in their YGO TCG events, you're going to have to put up with being "that guy," the man-child who still plays YGO at 20+ years of age. It's not as bad with MtG since pretty much children shy away from MtG and only play YGO and such whereas "real men" play Magic, meaning the youngest I've ever seen at an FNM event, besides the shop owner's sons, was probably around 18, 19 years of age. (College freshman.)

I mean, it's your call. If you don't mind being "that guy," and if it appeals to you that you might win good money like Tuner and others do, then go for it. But otherwise, I'd just say stick to playing the game recreationally online with friends. No need to spend any more money on it.
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So I got some advice over on r/yugioh,tl;dr I was told I'm behind in the times and need to accept that I need new cards, even though a lot of my deck is still acceptable.

Meh.

Don't know if I want to bother with it. Getting the right cards you need is like an adventure, but time consuming and expensive. Maybe I'll just fuck around on dueling network.
I get the feeling a lot of us are behind the times. The first couple duels I had on Dueling Network was just me using Nurse or other decks from back in the day that I was fond of and avoiding Synchro and Xyz altogether. I didn't win much. Then I buckled and actually tried to use newer cards and Xyz monsters. Still not comfortable with all the new stuff but it does have good results in certain situations.

Dueling Network is pretty fun for just fucking around. Just gotta make sure you're dueling a person that actually knows what they're doing.

Protip: Avoid taking challenges from people who have 100/0 by their name. They normally have to have the mechanics of the game explained to them.

EDIT: Yeah. Talon is pretty right. Playing online is all free and you get most of the cards you could ever want. Plus you can play in Traditional format and not worry about Banlists.
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^ Would not recommend getting back into the spending craze with this. Finding tons of people on UPN with whom to play digitally =/= finding tons of people with whom to play IRL in Kentucky. Not only that, but even if you do decide to go to a local comic book shop or gaming shop and participate in their YGO TCG events, you're going to have to put up with being "that guy," the man-child who still plays YGO at 20+ years of age. It's not as bad with MtG since pretty much children shy away from MtG and only play YGO and such whereas "real men" play Magic, meaning the youngest I've ever seen at an FNM event, besides the shop owner's sons, was probably around 18, 19 years of age. (College freshman.)

I mean, it's your call. If you don't mind being "that guy," and if it appeals to you that you might win good money like Tuner and others do, then go for it. But otherwise, I'd just say stick to playing the game recreationally online with friends. No need to spend any more money on it.
Ah, me and my friend were talking about it recently and how we missed the old days of YGO, so that combined with this has me on a nostalgic high, but you're right. It's a shame age is even a factor, even though I saw people from all age levels at different tournaments (even elderly folk, oddly, played and lost to one), a lot of people will look at it and go "wow leave the children's card game to children," even though I look like I'm 18. Meh. Not sure why I should care what other people think, but your point is truth. Then again, I have a feeling a lot of people from my generation still play today, too, but I'm sure about 85% stopped (there is an 80% chance those numbers are 100% false).

Like I said, tried getting into Magic, because what you said about it was basically what my friends who play it said about Yu-Gi-Oh compared to Magic, and that I should just play that instead. I mean, it's fun, but... it's not Yu-Gi-Oh fun. If that even makes any sense. shrug

Also downloaded GX Duel Academy to my phone for shits and giggles.

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I've actually won a few battles now. Starting to get the hang of this again. Turns out that most people despise Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon once they see its effect. Anyway, anyone up for a battle on Dueling Network?
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I've actually won a few battles now. Starting to get the hang of this again. Turns out that most people despise Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon once they see its effect. Anyway, anyone up for a battle on Dueling Network?
How's Scrap-Iron Scarecrow working for you? Or the Armed Dragons I suggested?

Also, I have another new deck to try. If you're up for it.
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Old 02-19-2012, 03:49 PM   #149
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I smell a UPN Duelist Network tournament. The newest card that I remember was Red Eyes Darkness Dragon, so I'm well behind on the times as well.
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Old 02-19-2012, 03:52 PM   #150
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I smell a UPN Duelist Network tournament.
Yes. Except without Banlists so errypony can have an OP deck.
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