05-15-2017, 09:09 PM | #1 |
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The FB Calendar & Time
So per request on the Discord chat, it seems like the Calendar needs some updating in a few ways!
In a sort of branch of this (since calendar = time), there's also the questioning on whatever we should use as the official FB time (used for not only the calendar, but also for time-based things like limited time events, shops, timing for trading, etc) since we're living all over the place with different time zones. At the moment, we are currently using London time, including the Daylight savings whenever it applies. Should we just use GMT +0 time without Daylight Savings? Maybe we should use some other timezone that would be the most convenient as possible for everyone? Personally I find it fine as it is with London time, since daylight savings applies where I live (although doesn't kick in at the same time, I believe) and the way things are timed, the start of FB Monday is Sunday night, perfect for me to take my time to post on my last week-end day and not after a long day at work. |
05-15-2017, 09:34 PM | #2 | |
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1. I think most of the days seem fine in all honesty, I don't know what they could be changed to to make them better. So I'm gonna say in that department I think we're okay. but I don't see a huge problem with that beyond personally not liking Rhyhorn xD 2. I think the presents are for the most part okay. Obviously if gummis get a rework some of the birthday stuff may change. Contests haven't exactly been utilised a whole lot, but perhaps that will change and make the current presents pretty good. Trainer presents also seem pretty good! However, I think maybe the amount of money gained should be increased. (Especially considering you get more money for a zone reply.). Some of my other suggestions could be: - Pokemon gain happiness on their birthdays - Money gained for trainer birthdays upped to $500 - the birthday gummi raises IQ by 6? 3. I like the idea of a trainer birthday clean-up. There's a lot of names on that list that haven't been around for a while. I'm all good with re-entering my birthday for the sake of organisation. 4. I like the calendar, looks wise. It's easy to read and I don't really think it needs to be fixed or anything. I think that the timezone we're using is fine, honestly. My timezone transitions at about 5pm my time each day. It works pretty well because I usually can't be on until about 10pm my time because work. (On Sunday night I usually do all Monday stuff after work.)
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05-15-2017, 09:39 PM | #3 |
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Some of the birthdays could maybe be changed around. We need to add Phione's birthday, actually- that's completely absent from the Calendar. If memory serves, Houndour Day and Sableye Day coincide with Tess and Arc's birthdays, respectively- that's not exactly a reason to change them, but if they'd be more fitting elsewhere, then I don't see why not. One thing I'd suggest is making it so the birthday for the mascot of FB (which was Milotic, but I suppose we could change that now if we so choose) coincides with the birthday of FB itself, one thing I always found odd about the calendar.
As for the birthday gifts themselves... Two levels, an Egg/MT move, a TM move, +10 to all Contest stats, and +2 to IQ, that all seems rather fair. Maybe up the amount the Birthday Gummi increases one's IQ by, but other than that, I have no problems here. Also, will we be enforcing movepool restrictions on the moves taught on birthdays (beyond Egg moves, of course)? If we're undecided on that, my vote is for no movepool restrictions on MT and TM moves from the Calendar. As for the Trainer birthday gifts- the Pokédollars, Candies, and Gummi are all fine. Coins, may need adjusting depending on how we end up working with those. The Heart Scale, though- will these serve a purpose in FB anymore? If not, then I'm thinking we maybe should think of something to replace it with. Cleaning up the birthday list is a good idea, in my opinion. The birthday list still mentions EBE, jj, and sbd, and I'm pretty sure they all went with Tess. Okiku's right- we can just have everyone currently here reconfirm their birthday, and anyone returning can simply give us their birthday to be added back on the list. As for updating the calendar page itself... I don't know, honestly. I'm cool with how it looks, always thought Okiku improved upon the old calendar beautifully. And finally, as for the time zone... maybe it's just because I'm used to it by this point, but I see no real pressing reason to change it. Maybe get rid of the part where FB observes Daylight Savings, if anything, but yeah- for the most part, I don't see an issue with it. The date in FB rolls over for me at 7:00 PM, and I've become accustomed to preparing shop/birthday posts prior to that time. That said, I'm not saying I'd object to it changing if someone else has a good reason for changing it, I'm just saying why the current time zone isn't a problem for me. |
05-15-2017, 09:51 PM | #4 |
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Re: Days
We should merge days of species that can hatch from one another or share the same name. Nidorans, Tauros/Miltank, and Volbeat/Illumise come to mind. Clean up sounds good. For Pokemon birthdays we should up the levels to 3 and allow them to be taught 1 EM/MT/TM each. For trainers, increase the cash and coins. Also there was talks of a Birthday Egg too. Besides that I'm fine.
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05-15-2017, 10:13 PM | #5 | |
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...but in all seriousness, placing 'mon on the B-days of actual FBers has been a thing for a long, long time now, and if we're going to redo the calendar at all we should re-touch on that and allow it to be a thing again for those that have been here for some time. There's honestly no reason not to. Agreed on the "if we change the calendar it's after New Year's" thing to keep everything fair, though. Even if that is forever from now. |
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05-15-2017, 10:47 PM | #6 |
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To me pokemon days seem to be missing
something. maybe the gifts should have names like Birthday Cake/Candy- grants 3 levels to a pokemon on their birthday Birthday Berry (Juice)- grants the learning of any TM and a MTorEM move I agree with everthing else though.
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05-15-2017, 11:11 PM | #7 |
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Don't see a pressing need to make changes to Pokemon's birthdays (other than adding Phione's if that's missing), but if anything is changed around, going into effect at New Year seems fair enough.
As for trainer gifts: If Heart Scales don't have a use currently, then that should probably be removed/replaces, and I agree that Coin and Pokedollar amounts could be tweaked. Everything else seems fine to me. Pokemon gifts: The IQ gain should at the very least be equal to whatever we decide regular gummis are worth. Other than that, if we plan to restart contests at some point, I don't mind keeping the contest stats. I'm not opposed to happiness being added (or replacing contest stats if it is decided those are dropped) once we figure out how happiness should work. Cleaning out names: Go for it, it's easy enough for people to just re-add their birthday when they return, and I don't mind having to post mine again either. I assume a new thread will be made for it? I know the new mods can edit the old one, but it is still strange to have a thread started by old mods, and since we are overhauling it, now seems like a good time to switch it over. Time Zone: Honestly, I think most of the people that have been around for a while are so used to it that a change would cause them problems. So unless there's a really good argument for changing it, I'd say leave it where it is. Calendar: I've got zero problems with Okiku's calendar. No need to fix what isn't broke. |
05-16-2017, 01:00 AM | #8 |
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Little bit different to the rest of the discussion, but perhaps we consider allowing day-after gift retrievals? People are often rather busy and I know I struggle to remember to wish people happy birthday let alone Pokemon haha. I don't think it would break anything, it would just loosen up the system a little.
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05-16-2017, 10:09 AM | #11 |
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05-16-2017, 10:11 AM | #12 |
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Phione is probably covered under legendaries, in fairness.
I disagree with changing birthdays, its something Tess and Arc did yes but its pretty self-serving and as people come and go from FB we're going to run into problems. Trainer birthdays should be better, I would be okay with a Birthday egg.
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05-17-2017, 11:12 PM | #14 |
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Birthday eggs sound fun, and the rest of the suggestions for buffing up the birthday presents for trainers and Pokemon alike are fair. Maybe we should have some way to compensate for Pokemon that have stuff maxed out/lack it entirely? Let's say a 'mon doesn't have any egg moves, maybe they could get an extra move of some other type or an extra level? Likewise, maybe a level 100 Pokemon could get an extra move?
As much as I'm tickled by the concept of America taking over everything right down to Pokemon forum games, it just makes sense to leave things at GMT. It'll screw things up for awhile to change the time, and honestly, GMT is fairest to everyone- For example, midnight in London is 9 AM in Sydney and 7 PM in New York. All three of these times are pretty reasonable. However, midnight in New York is 5 AM in London. And changing it to Australian time seems silly because at least iirc there are more of both Americans and Brits in FB than Aussies. Any Birthday changes need to be implemented January 1st and dropped for the public to see before then, lest we have a huge amount of people complaining "fuck I didn't know New Year's was Numel day now rip me" if they happen. I don't really think they need to, though. Cleaning out names should definitely happen. No reason at all not to; like others have said, any returnees can just repost their birthday. |
05-18-2017, 09:31 AM | #15 |
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Okay so here is a small draft.
Pokemon Birthday: ~3 Levels ~1 TM ~1 MT ~1 EM ~1 Birthday Poffin ~1 Birthday Gummi *If a Pokemon has already reached level 100, they may learn 1 Unnatural Move Trainer Birthdays: ~$1000 Pokedollars ~1000 Coins ~5 Rare Candies ~3 Mysterious Gummis ~1 Pokeball of choice ~1 TM of choice ~1 Birthday Egg *Birthday Eggs are Eggs that will hatch 1 Pokemon from a Trainer's Memakyu. The Memakyu does not tolerate forcing a hatch. Any Trainer with only 1 Pokemon in their Memakyu, or does not have a Memakyu, this egg will act as an Enigma Egg. Shiny odds are increased on these eggs. Thoughts?
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05-18-2017, 09:38 AM | #16 |
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That's fine honestly.
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05-18-2017, 09:49 AM | #17 |
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Shit, now THAT'S a birthday gift.
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05-18-2017, 11:40 AM | #18 |
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Looks good to me.
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05-18-2017, 11:49 AM | #19 |
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I like it
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05-18-2017, 01:16 PM | #20 |
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05-18-2017, 01:34 PM | #21 |
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Looks good to me, but on the note of Level 100s learning an unnatural move: what happens to level 98s/99s? They obviously don't get the full 3 levels. I'm fine if that just means "wait till next year, probably should have rare candy'd," but it's worth considering.
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05-18-2017, 01:56 PM | #22 |
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Sorry for being quiet for a while! ^^;
>Lit's proposition of new birthday presents I approve of those suggestions too! Love the idea of a birthday egg, especially since a lot of people (including myself) did that anyways, timing the egg pick up so a Pokémon would hatch on my birthday. However I want things to be a little bit more precise in terms of the choice of Pokéballs. As one that has one heck of a collection of them, I'm wondering what kind would be allowed to pick up (I mean, if we keep it general as it is, a Master Ball would be legit choice. And we haven't seen one in... since forever.) As for Heather's point, I agree that it's sad if you don't get the full 3 levels. I wouldn't mind seeing that Pokémon that are are level 98 ot 99 get that unnatural move as a compensation of not getting full levels (and as a "congrats on reaching level 100!" extra gift ^^) >Give a little more "birthday styling" to the presents Sure! I like the idea for the levels of Pokémon to be from a Birthday Candy Cake. (I mean, candy cakes are a thing.) For the MT and Egg moves, we could put it in as a Birthday Berry Milkshake or something, that goes well with the cake XP >Giving a day before/after wiggle room to pick up I fully approve! I still remember when I was off for a vacation and I bent over backwards just to pick up my Pokémon's birthdays on time. And when it's actually your birthday, you're most likely busy celebrating IRL, you don't have time to get something like that! >Reset of Trainer Birthdays Cool to see everyone agreeing! I'll make sure to reset the trainer birthdays in the actual calendar, and although I dunno if I'll be SO'ing the revamped calendar or not, but if I do, I'll make sure it gets reset. >Phione Yeah, as Emi said, it is covered as a Legendary. What I find strange is how Type: Null has its own birthday, when it is kinda/sorta a legendary... thoughts? >Changing birthdays around First off, I agree with Emi that we shouldn't change the birthdays to serve as a way to "celebrate" other trainer's birthdays. That said, moving around birthday to fit in for some holidays and/or seasons should be still accepted. Here's some examples of what I can think of of some changes:
Other ideas? >Official FB Time Ok, seems everyone agrees to either keep it as it is (London time (GMT +0) with Daylight Savings whenever applied) or change it slightly to plain GMT +0 with no daylight savings. Sooooooo which one is it? I kinda prefer staying on London time because, as I mentioned before, daylight savings applies to me too, so most of the time the FB "midnight" ends up always being at the same hour in my time zone. |
05-18-2017, 02:50 PM | #23 |
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For the wiggle room, I'm going to ask if we can have a TA-esque system in place where if people aren't around due to real life or whatnot, then they can be allowed a delayed pickup. Obviously it's going to need some sort of fix to prevent blatant abuse but it's a thing I think there should be.
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05-18-2017, 04:26 PM | #24 |
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In the next year or so I'm hoping to be somewhere where there is no Daylight Savings, but honestly I'm willing to live with the disparity as long as Oki keeps the 'The current FB Time is...' thingie on the calendar. o3o So I'm chill with London Time.
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1) New Thread
If Okiku and the other SOs would like to take the responsibility on of making a new thread, rebuilding the trainer list and confirming presents from here on out, I would be very, very appreciative. I am all for that, and will work with Okiku to see that done. 2) New Gifts Quote:
Pokemon Birthday: ~3 Levels ~1 TM ~2 EMs OR 2 MTs OR 1 EM/1 MT ~3 Birthday Gummis *If a Pokemon has already reached level 100, they may learn 1 Unnatural Move Trainer Birthdays: ~$1000 Pokedollars ~5 Rare Candies ~3 Mysterious Gummis ~1 Pokeball of choice, out of those available at the Dept. Store ~1 TM of choice ~1 Birthday Egg *Birthday Eggs are Eggs that will hatch 1 non-legendary Pokemon from a Trainer's Memakyu. The Memakyu does not tolerate forcing a hatch. Any Trainer with less than 4 non-legendary Pokemon in their Memakyu, or does not have a Memakyu, this egg will act as an Enigma Egg. Shiny odds are increased on these eggs - requesting the shiny versions of Pokemon in your Memakyu will NOT guarantee a shiny result. Are these edits reasonable? |
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