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Old 09-23-2014, 01:06 PM   #3301
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omg SubFlail I nearly died
You'd be surprised at how effective it is.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:13 PM   #3302
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Oh no I imagine its very effective...if you get rid of all the priority in the tier, give Mega Pinsir freedom to reign without being outsped, and getting rid of any passive damage.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:28 PM   #3303
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Oh no I imagine its very effective...if you get rid of all the priority in the tier, give Mega Pinsir freedom to reign without being outsped, and getting rid of any passive damage.
Priority: Literally the only issue is Talonflame. Everything else is either outsped regardless or get set up on (Bisharp)

Giving Pinsir Free reign: the amount of switches Pinsir forces is pretty fucking huge. Venu, Amoonguss, Heracross, Medicham, and anything slower can be subbed on. Mew and Bro are set up fodder because Sub blocks the incoming status and +2 Flail OHKOes everything. And even if they switch in something faster, you literally spam substitute untill you have a 200 BP Flail. By then you have a free kill against that and whatever he switch in May be (at least at +2)

Passive damage: Tyranitar and Ferrothorn are the only forms of passive damage that actually hurt Pinsir. My team has two fighting types as well as Diggersby to take care of Tyranitar. Magnezone is trapped by Ferro. I've literally been hoarding replays of SubFlail Pinsir beating shit. It's unexpected and most teams can't really handle it without smart play. Not even rocks help.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:45 PM   #3304
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So hopping back to balanced Hackmons for a post or two. A friend suggested to me what is basically Simple Cotton Guard Umbreon whixh Baton Passes to Eviolite Doublade. So, how thick of a wall are we talking there?
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Old 09-23-2014, 02:39 PM   #3305
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Holy balls, that strategy is perfect never stop using it. I can't stop laughing, that reaction was priceless.
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Old 09-23-2014, 02:50 PM   #3306
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Didn't Red Card work with Substitute before or was I imagining things?

Pelipper is really pretty sweet.

Scarfrost, the best revenge killer in PU.

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Old 09-23-2014, 04:14 PM   #3307
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So if I hypothetically were to use Heliolisk in VGC, should I go Timid or Modest with obligatory 252 SpAtk/Spd?
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:24 PM   #3308
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I used a Heliolisk in VGC for a while and I found that its attack power was a little underwhelming but it's speed was pretty solid.
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:27 PM   #3309
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So if I hypothetically were to use Heliolisk in VGC, should I go Timid or Modest with obligatory 252 SpAtk/Spd?
Scarf / Specs / etc / etc?
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:27 PM   #3310
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So I should go Timid then to take advantage of the Speed?

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Scarf / Specs / etc / etc?
I have no idea yet, all I've decided is that I'm using Parabolic Charge and pairing him with lanturn in rain
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:34 PM   #3311
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Well, Timid should always be used if you aren't using Scarf. If you are, use Modest.

eww parabolic charge on something with no bulk
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:47 PM   #3312
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Alrighty, thanks Blaze!
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Old 09-23-2014, 09:04 PM   #3313
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You should use Specs Lisk unless you're going for support, in which case Life Orb will do. Electric Terrain is fun
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:21 AM   #3314
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See, my Lisk idea was a spur of the moment thing where I thought "What would happen if I paired a ParaCharging Dry Skin Heliolisk and a Surfing Lanturn under rain?". Considering my Heliolisk set so far is Parabolic Charge/Surf/???/???, Electric Terrain sounds like a fun idea. Life Orb it is! Thanks Rotom!
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:22 AM   #3315
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I'd run HP Ice in the last slot. Last thing you need is a Salamence or a Garchomp giving you the troll face.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:34 AM   #3316
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oh god hidden power breeding ;~;
I guess I could try getting HP Ice
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Old 09-25-2014, 02:09 PM   #3317
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Wherein Delibird has a date with destiny. (Random Battle, 21 turns)

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He was lucky when U-Turn failed to OHKO Simipour, so I think the luck I enjoyed with the 1%HP on Regirock was fair. Aside from that, the match wasn't really haxy. There was a Rock Slide flinch in there but that was just for laughs more than anything: I wanted Regirock to die rather than to switch him out and risk collateral damage, so I figured I'd at least try one Rock Slide just to see what it might do.

I had expected him to Bullet Punch Delibird, so I was quite delighted that he opted to go for a different, non-priority attack instead, allowing me to go first and get off my Destiny Bond.

Wherein Torterra plays the part of a ballerina and Chatot does stuff too. (Random Battle, 22 turns)

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A lot of switch predictions and bluffs that were simply nailed here. You win some, you lose some, and this was one that I definitely won. Wow. His Minun and Sawsbuck offered my team serious problems yet somehow I managed to remove the one from play with only minimal casualties and the other I managed to keep off of the field more often than not.

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Old 09-25-2014, 11:47 PM   #3318
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Delibird wins the game.

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Old 09-26-2014, 08:26 AM   #3319
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Mt new Hackmons team faces six charizards.
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Old 09-26-2014, 01:25 PM   #3320
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You had Diggersby and Lopunny on the same team...I envy you.

"my delibird was inferior"

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Old 09-26-2014, 06:58 PM   #3321
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Dancing around Electrify ZardY.

I have discovered how to color links. This line isnt one.

You know how I said earlier that I dug up some old replays and it physically hurt? This just threw my back again, it hurts that bad.
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Old 09-26-2014, 07:24 PM   #3322
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This happened a while ago in a league I'm in, but we kept the link because it was hilarious.

You think your luck is bad?

We actually have a league bot and there is a command to give you the link to this.
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Old 09-26-2014, 07:37 PM   #3323
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I feel really bad for the monofire guy, someone needs to tell this steel asshole that had like a one in 10000 chance of that happening.
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Old 09-26-2014, 07:42 PM   #3324
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I don't feel bad for the Fire guy at all. He was incredibly douchey the entire game the first two turns; and to make matters worse, he was boasting about pwning someone whom he should have obviously been pwning because IMMENSE type advantage.

Mind, the Steel guy was incredibly douchey too. Incredibly misogynistic. Fire spoke like a misogynist too, but Steel just wouldn't shut up with it.
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Old 09-26-2014, 07:44 PM   #3325
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Gmoyes you should feel ashamed linking that. They were both incredible douches.
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