10-06-2011, 08:49 PM | #1 |
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So... are we getting a Pokemon Gray or are they actually taking a year break?
Just curious.
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10-06-2011, 09:07 PM | #2 |
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Didn't even know this until looking for some evidence before replying to you, but hey, check this out:
"No, not at all. We are done with this generation with Pokémon Black and White Edition." - Mana Ibe, designer on Pokémon Black/WhiteNow, people are of course skeptical about this claim. I just read a number of posts from people who expressed the common belief that GameFreak was simply saying this because to say the opposite -- "oh yes! We're totally working on a better version which will be out shortly! ^-^" -- months before the release of your game would be a pretty stupid business move. But ... I dunno. This'd make sense if Pokemon were a never-before-seen franchise, but at this point we've had five generations and the previous four of the five have all, each and every last one of them, had a tertiary game with better graphics and/or features. So I mean, it's not like we didn't see a Pokemon Gray coming. Which means there's no point in denying its existence only to then reveal it after B/W's launch. We all expect it, GameFreak. Almost every single person who bought B/W even with you withholding news about a possible Pokemon Gray were still going to buy B/W anyway. So yeah: given this logic, I'm actually inclined to believe what this Mana Ibe fellow was saying.
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10-06-2011, 09:26 PM | #3 | |
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That was at the beginning of the year. I would have expected to hear something more by now, but I guess not. Also, Talon, if I'm not mistaken, back when the Gen V Pokemon were being revealed, you seemed pretty turned off by the game and, if memory serves, said you wouldn't buy it. Well, I haven't lurked enough to know, but have you since changed your mind? If so, what do you think? |
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10-06-2011, 09:47 PM | #4 |
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I'll have to disappoint the rest of the board and not regale you with an essay. I didn't buy the game, I did play it, and I remain very disappointed with the graphics and the failure to implement changes to some serious problems that have been with the series for a long time. That stated, I was quite pleased with infinite TMs (who wouldn't be), there were a few diamonds in the rough creature-design wise (like the Galvantula line, Ferrothorn line, and Minccino line), and the plot was one of the best to date ...
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10-07-2011, 04:04 PM | #5 |
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Even if there is one its much to early to be unveiled. B/W came out a year ago. 3rd versions don't usually come out until 2 years have passed. If that quote holds true it must be because of the handheld transition. 3DS isn't like the GBC. They'd essentially have to remake B/W for Gray on 3DS. Why do that instead of going straight to Gen VI? Thats why I think Gen III remakes aren't coming up yet. Make a new engine for a new game then go back and remake stuff.
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10-07-2011, 04:08 PM | #6 |
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Isn't it, though? Isn't it just like the GBC? Each can play its predecessor's games in addition to its own games. So couldn't they just program Pokemon Gray in "DS Mode" and have it run in the 3DS the exact same way that Black and White do? Couldn't they basically eviscerate the B/W code to make Gray (as I'm sure they've done with every other generation when making Game 3) and keep the DS-compatible B/W engine?
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idk if 3DS games have access to the DS chipset for power/memory use but if they don't then doing a DS-mode port would make the game unplayable on future 3DS models, cause we all know how Nintendo loves to take away BC. |
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10-09-2011, 07:38 AM | #8 |
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First off, it won't be Gray. It'll be Black and White then Red all over again.
Secondly, @Talon Spoiler: show Though I am a bit sad that what has become my favorite generation (take that nostalgic peoplez...why is no one screaming in anger?) will most likely not get a new game (I blame abandoned vacuum cleaner factories.) |
10-09-2011, 07:42 AM | #9 |
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Uh, you couldn't be more wrong. XD Speaking for yourself, it seems? ;p
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10-09-2011, 07:46 AM | #10 |
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Nah, I beat him kinda easy, but everyone else I've seen pretty much complained about that Hydreigon of his. Beartic FTW!
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10-23-2011, 07:49 PM | #11 |
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Not everyone used Beartic, though. My team in Black Version involved no Ice-types at all. I only beat Hydreigon because I lucked out; Focus Blast missed my Emboar, allowing it to get its Speed down with Low Sweep, then KO it with a second Low Sweep.
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10-24-2011, 07:33 PM | #12 |
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IGN.com - Pokemon Gray Website Registered
They denied it. We were skeptical. They register the domain name. And no one is surprised. Other options: Geek.com Game Informer Nintendo Buzz Kotaku
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10-25-2011, 12:38 PM | #13 |
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Gray/Grey would prolly be the worst title for a main game yet. I still stand by my idea it should be called Pokémon Plasma and obviously focus more on team plasma with their as of yet unrevealed(?) PKMN on the cover. But thats not here or there.
This coulda been done to prevent domain name squatting or something to that effect. Though they prolly woulda done that long ago since this title is so predictable Maybe they would do release this version after the first pair of Gen VI games? That could be an interesting new groove. Gen VI -> GenV.3 -> Gen IIImakes -> Gen VII -> Gen VI.3 -> Gen 4makes.... |
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As for Lindz... you're talking about the Reshiram/Zekrom combination Pokemon, right? That mythos alone was what instantly made me go "this is what they're going to do with the third series game" when it was discussed in B/W, and I've forgotten all about it since. It would almost certainly be the boxart Pokemon. Unless they really do go with Kyurem. |
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10-28-2011, 03:35 PM | #16 |
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Calling it right now that Grey's mascot will be Kyurem and it's going to have an alternate 'complete' mode like Giratina did.
There's so many fanworks about a 'complete' Kyurem, it's ridiculous. The one Lindz is on about is an event 'mon, so that won't be a mascot. Hell, look how long it took for Arceus to be released. |
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10-29-2011, 04:58 PM | #18 |
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C'mon guys thats all way to obvious! Its what they've trained you to think and expect over the years. Registering pokemongrey.com? A ruse. They say one thing but do another? Well the "another" is not gonna be the one ya expect! At least thats my guess anyway. Ya all can follow the sane route while I hold out for craziness and glory!
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10-31-2011, 03:48 PM | #21 |
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Well, I suppose I'm just being a little close minded here- I always thought the whole thing about people criticizing pokemon for parallels to dog fighting and stuff was a bunch of crap that should be grouped in with "Pokemon supports worshipping the devil!" and other idiotic stuff like that.
Really, my opinion is "Dudes, it's a video game. The entire point is to have conflict we can't have in real life for fun." Now, on a less close-minded and dogmatic note... While comparing pokemon to dog-fighting and such does have it's legitimate points, I think pokemon shares much more in common with competitive sports, such as Soccer or Baseball- heck, the standard pokemon arena is even based off a Soccer/Football arena! The pokemon don't inflict lasting damage on each other, they get to release their natural fighting instincts, the trainers get to utilize their brain power, and everyone benefits. A more grey area is reached when you consider that, supposedly, in the pokemon world pokemon battles are used to settle debates- the idea of a massive-scale pokemon battle taking place rather than a war seems a little farfetched (pardon the pun), but it's a legitimate scenario. However, in this case, isn't battle between super-powered creatures that will quickly recover a much better option than armed conflict between delicate humans? Also, this state of affairs helps to allow the plots of the pokemon games to work- Many fans say 'Why doesn't Giovanni pull a gun on Red?'- Because he could just have his Charizard or whatever flick the bullet to the side without a worry, of course! The pokemon battle each other on equal grounds, and the winner is the one who still has a pokemon left to threaten his now harmless opponent with. But, I'm getting away from the point. I've forgotten to mention one important point- The key difference between Dog/Rooster fighting and Pokemon Battles is that the pokemon incur no lasting damage from the battle. For that matter, pokemon is futuristic enough that the pokemon can be cured of their temporary lack of conciousness with a trip to a nurse or a small yellow crystal. I want to say more, but I feel I'm starting to repeat myself. |
11-01-2011, 06:30 PM | #22 |
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@Talon - Ah yes, let's see here.
Rocket: No real point of existing. No plot, no nothing, heck Silver, the character, has more of a plot than these guys. No I am not counting our favorite trio into this. Magma & Aqua: Nothing more than just jokes. "Oh look at us, we're so brilliant, let's flood the world and cause a volcanic erupting all over the world. What's that? Will we be killed? No, because we're too stupid to die." Galactic: One of the only two teams I respect, because of their bosses and motivations. Cyrus is a pretty cool character Spoiler: show Plasma: "Team PETA" as most seem to call, but let's think here for a moment. These guys are against these type of fightings, not only because it's violent, but also because the Pokemon are often used to fight over the stupidest of things and nothing is really done about it. After all, the ones who fight stronger and whatnot are often given levels of importance, and let's say for a moment that the champion did abuse his/her pokemon a lot...since he/she was the champion no one would be able to do anything about it. It's like a violent version of Diplomatic immunity. I of course am not implying that the champion does such a thing, but it would seem that this would be the case. Spoiler: show |
11-03-2011, 02:50 PM | #23 |
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Agreeing with Blastoise here, except for team Aqua and Magma. Aqua wanted to expand the seas, which would presumably solve problems such as drought. Magma wanted to expand the land, which would presumably solve problems such as over-crowding. Their sole stupidity lies in the facts that:
a) By Team Aqua fixing it's problem, the problem Magma was trying to fix would become more acute, and visa-versa. b) The issue that the games focused on- regardless of if they summoned the legendary or not, the teams were stupid enough to not be able to control said legends after they were summoned. They underestimated the power of gods, and were saved by a ten-year old who had been trying to stop them all along. Ouch. Giovanni is a plain vanilla Mafia boss who I have no love for, no matter how much Reborn I read. |
01-30-2012, 02:35 PM | #24 |
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Still waiting for my yearly Pokemon remake...
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02-21-2012, 06:57 PM | #25 |
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Every generation so far has had a third version, and I see no reason to believe that fifth gen is an exception.
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