09-18-2019, 03:08 AM | #4977 |
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So today I learned that what broke Pheromosa is not the obvious Life Orb set, but rather when she started to run Quiver Dance. I always knew Pheromosa had access to it but figured she was too frail to do anything, but at +1 Speed and with snowballing SpA boosts, just nuking off Focus Blast was enough.
Both Naganadel and Pheromosa's best sets involve Z-Moves, so I wonder about a meta where both are allowed. As we saw in ORAS, competition for a Mega slot kept some Megas like Mega Metagross from being banned, but when there was less centralizing pressure and a better environment to feast on, Meta Metagross became too centralizing for OU. My guess is Naganadel would take precedence as the much more well-rounded pick.
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I was reading the RS entry on Smeargle and saw this:
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How does this happen? Was it discovered that Smeargle cannot learn Baton Pass in RS, retroactively? How? I went to the OU page... Quote:
Whaaat? Smogon seems to have gone full-blown moronic now. Why not just ban the move, stupid?
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09-21-2019, 11:53 AM | #4979 |
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Yeah Baton Pass is weird and I feel like they should just standardize it, because like
SM: banned outright XY: banned outright great! simple! easy to remember! BW: Teams may not have more than one Pokemon with Baton Pass in its moveset. Additionally, Speed + another stat may not be passed. DPP: Teams may not have more than one Pokemon with Baton Pass in its moveset. Additionally, Speed + another stat may not be passed. RS: Teams are limited to a maximum of three (3) Baton Pass users, and Smeargle cannot have Baton Pass in its moveset. GS: No restrictions I get that its impact/power is different in every gen but good god all of that is annoying to remember if you're a multi-gen OU player. I've normally been very pro-Smogon over the years but the Baton Pass mess is one thing that I'm kinda eh on
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09-21-2019, 12:12 PM | #4980 |
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Is the Baton Pass change a new thing? Usually, Smogon hates making changes to previous generations.
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09-21-2019, 12:21 PM | #4981 | |
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This generally isn't a problem. Latias being unbanned for DPP OU, for example, is righting a wrong even if it's "changing history". The Baton Pass thing is repulsive because it's a complex ban. Like, the exact reason Blaziken is banned - "we don't want a slippery slope banning Speed Boost on Blaziken" - is exactly what you see in that Smeargle clause. That's fudging ridiculous.
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09-26-2019, 04:48 AM | #4982 |
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09-27-2019, 10:07 AM | #4983 |
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+2 Extreme Speed from Arceus doesn't OHKO Darkrai.
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09-30-2019, 11:28 AM | #4984 |
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So, who enjoys using Ultra Beasts in competitive?
I like running: Clown (Blacephalon) @ Focus Sash Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Flamethrower - Shadow Ball - Psychic - Calm Mind Squidward (Nihilego) @ Choice Scarf Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 252 SpA / 138 SpD / 118 Spe Calm Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Stealth Rock - Toxic Spikes - Sludge Wave - Power Gem Stingboi (Buzzwole) @ Leftovers Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 56 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Def / 100 SpD Adamant Nature - Leech Life - Drain Punch - Thunder Punch - Poison Jab Christmas (Xurkitree) @ Salac Berry Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Thunderbolt - Tail Glow - Grass Knot - Energy Ball Useless (Guzzlord) @ Leftovers Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 SpD Calm Nature - Sleep Talk - Toxic - Knock Off - Rest Trump's Dreams (Stakataka) @ Chople Berry Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 156 HP / 252 Def / 100 SpD Sassy Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Stealth Rock - Gyro Ball - Earthquake - Toxic
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09-30-2019, 08:48 PM | #4985 |
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I'd run the UB's if one of them (like Nihilego) were a Water-type!
... I made a hypothetical sub-legend (580 BST) to try and illustrate just how limiting Pokemon is, and came to a surprising conclusion: HP: 70 ATK: 140 DEF: 70 SPA: 100 SPD: 70 SPE: 130 =580 No matter what typing you give this thing, isn't it an Uber? So long as the ability is at least neutral like Pickup?
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10-04-2019, 07:47 AM | #4987 | |
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252 Atk Life Orb ??? Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja-Ash: 247-292 (86.6 - 102.4%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO That's without a + ability, based purely on stats and and and an average STAB move. The immediacy of 140 ATK and 130 SPE and any kind of STAB makes it a deadly anti-offensive Pokemon. And 100 SPA is not the worst for running special coverage. A Dark-type variant would basically be a buffed Darkrai. The only thing keeping Darkrai in Ubers now is Nasty Plot.
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10-04-2019, 03:09 PM | #4988 |
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Watch Game Freak Make this and give it slow start for no reason
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10-04-2019, 06:37 PM | #4989 |
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Sorry to distract from current discussion heh
Copycat may be good but I’m better B)
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Aquaspillus (UB Liquid) Just moving water... HP 112 ATK 56 DEF 78 SP. ATK 124 SP DEF 78 SPD 122 A potential Uber?
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10-09-2019, 03:01 PM | #4991 |
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Does Fire Blast not thaw freeze?
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10-09-2019, 03:22 PM | #4992 |
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All fire moves thaw freeze, right?
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10-09-2019, 04:00 PM | #4993 |
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/g...ttle-989761519
Fire Blast is not breaking through the freeze. I've seen this before on Palkia as well.
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Every Fire move will thaw a frozen target, but only the moves phoopes listed above instathaw a frozen user. Don't ask me why the venn diagram of those two categories isn't a circle save for like, Ember or something.
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10-15-2019, 09:11 PM | #4996 |
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I was accidentally forced into two battles at once. In spite of this, I felt like I did well simultaneously playing and only got screwed by the final Pokemon at the end. What do you guys think?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/g...ttle-993231529 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/g...ttle-993231486 The only clearly bad play I think was not switching in Pinsir instead of Togekiss. I would have had an easier time if Togekiss wasn't more than death fodder.
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Here's two battles I did:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/g...ttle-994052340 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/g...ttle-994052340 Nothing cool, just wanted to get thoughts on the strategy
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10-17-2019, 08:41 PM | #4998 |
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Volcarona outspeeds Naganadel HOW?
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10-29-2019, 06:08 AM | #5000 |
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I've been banned from Showdown. =3=
Wee, this is the second major ban from a website, after getting permabanned from 4chan last year. This would be mildly funny if it wasn't so shocking.
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