07-01-2015, 01:35 AM | #1 | |
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So has Firefox sold out?
Forcing Windows users to deal with more mobile-oriented updates got me suspicious, but then I saw this:
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I need a new browser. Any suggestions?
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07-01-2015, 02:33 AM | #2 | |
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I use Firefox but am not a super computer person so you'll have to explain to me in simple terms why we should care about this. Drm for video games is annoying because I shouldn't have to be online to play entirely offline games I own. On music because I should be able to move it freely around devices I own. Neither of these are relevant to browser use so... I care why? What practical consequences does this have for me as a Firefox user?
EDIT the first: A quick search online makes it seem like this is just another version of what I already have in Silverlight and Flash. So what? Confused as to what I'm missing here.
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07-01-2015, 03:31 AM | #3 |
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I similarly do not understand why this is relevant.
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07-01-2015, 03:45 AM | #5 |
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Sounds like Adobe and Mozilla created a mutual partnership as both are in somewhat similar threatened positions by their competitors in their respective fields.
So I'm guessing you won't use Chrome? I used to despise Chrome, but it quickly became pretty convenient, and having all of the extensions being easy to install and use is nice. I'd avoid Opera from some recent things I've heard regarding security issues. Microsoft's Edge browser is coming out in a month or so, maybe wait for that? |
07-01-2015, 03:55 AM | #6 | |
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For the programmer, open source means they have the code to modify a program as they see fit. For the end user, a closed source model versus open source means:
-slower updates, slower responses to problems -less/no customization -less/no control over data, privacy, content Closed source means the developer has all the power and the end-user dances on the palm of their hands. This gives a good explanation of FF's troubles. Looks like a handful of Judas Iscariots stabbed Mozilla in the back. Quote:
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07-01-2015, 05:22 AM | #7 | |
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I emphasise that this thing is literally no different to Silverlight and Flash. It's just a different version of things that already exist for Firefox. I haven't seen you bitching about those (maybe I just missed it).
Really, you seem unable to give a single practical difference for me as the end user. I don't buy this "less customisation" thing given the winner on that front is Chrome which is distinctly not open source. Your most recent post also tried very hard to make it sound like the entirety of Firefox is going closed source which your opening quote clearly spells out is not the case. Like, correct me if I'm wrong but Silverlight and Flash are already closed source. I already have those bolted onto Firefox. Again, why do I care in the slightest about getting another one?
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07-01-2015, 05:34 AM | #8 |
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Also, the NSA knows everything about you anyway, sorry!
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07-01-2015, 11:03 AM | #9 | |
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Android also, due to competition from Cyanogen, is moving to close the source of Android as each update includes more Google proprietary software. Google let Android be open source because Apple launched the iPhone before them, and they panicked and released the code as a way to differentiate its product. That worked beautifully but it also paved the road for Cyanogen, which is a big enough threat to end the open source experiment. Firefox is also reported to start including adware like its competitors, something that they can't pull off fully without resrticting the user's ability to stop ads. So as Rangeet suggested, Adblock and NoScript might see their days limited. That was intended as a joke, but Google does assign your search queries to your IP address, and with WiFi networks and their own location services it's not too hard to pinpoint the address from where that IP is coming from.
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07-01-2015, 11:34 AM | #11 | |
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>It's one small step for Firefox.
How is it any step for Firefox? How is this any different from the existence of Flash and Silverlight which've been around for years? All that's happening is that some things that currently use those two will start using this as well/instead. Nothing new is going closed source. No part of Firefox that is opensourced is being changed or effected in any way whatsoever. Can you name one thing that's currently open sourced that'll be closed source because of this? Because right now I'm still struggling to see a single tangible consequence of this and you've not provided any.
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07-01-2015, 12:51 PM | #12 | |
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Nothing is being closed source, but it's still a major blow for Firefox. They've fought against DRM but are providing support for it in an effort to maintain customers. In that respect they've failed to stop the widespread use of DRM so a new feature will be closed source.
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Still not really agreeing with the problem but thanks for taking the time to explain your point of view.
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Shit.
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I interpret that Wikipedia paragraph as signaling that:
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07-02-2015, 09:31 PM | #16 |
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This discussion is a spin-off from the html5/Flash discussion you posted, so it was interesting to me then that Mozilla caved when Adobe should be feeling the pressure.
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