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Old 02-09-2016, 08:01 PM   #4251
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Screens are super uncommon but I can understand. Low Kick is just a lot better when you know something like Heatran is going to switch in.

Also battle me. :3
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:05 PM   #4252
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So Emi and I fought. The first one went in my favor 1-0, the second in hers 2-0. Got to say the Pidgeotite Starmie from game 2 is awfully appealing.
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:08 PM   #4253
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It really does seem cool, but I almost worry about the possible lack of power. It's no Thundurus, and I would probably use that over Starmie if it actually learned Defog. It's annoying.

EDIT: So actually looking at Pidgeotite, it makes Starmie's Base Stats:

60 HP / 75 Atk / 90 Def / 165 Sp.Atk / 95 Sp.Def / 135 Speed

Okay so maybe it doesn't lack power. ORAS stones are nuts.
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:11 PM   #4254
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yeah, I can see Beedrillite being insane on the right mon. Because iirc it just slaps 60 Atk, -30 SpAtk and 70 Spd with Adaptability. It sounds like it'd work on basically any physical attacker (Terrakion springs to mind).
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:12 PM   #4255
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Beedrillite is banned actually on everything except Beedrill. It could turn basically anything into a physical sweeper, which people weren't happy about.
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:00 PM   #4256
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I somehow pull this out one, out despite many dumb moves, on my last Pokemon with 8% health left.
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Old 02-10-2016, 11:18 PM   #4257
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Beedrillite is banned actually on everything except Beedrill. It could turn basically anything into a physical sweeper, which people weren't happy about.
That's kinda cool, actually. Would make for some interesting sandbox fun. Just off the top of my head ...
  • Mixed Starmie. Waterfall (Atk vs Def), Psyshock (SpAtk vs Def), beam attacks (SpAtk vs SpDef)
  • Physical attacker Hippowdon. All that natural bulk but now you max Attack and give him an Adamant nature. CHOMP.
  • Physical attacker Ferrothorn. And now those thorny orbs on vines become lethal maces. KERPOW!
  • Beedrillite Staraptor. Oh my Gooooooooooooooooooo-
  • Beedrillite Talonflame. "They've gone to PLAID!"
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:03 AM   #4258
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>Beedrillite Talonflame

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Old 02-11-2016, 11:05 AM   #4259
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Mixed Starmie probably wouldn't work considering that Beedrillite reduces Sp.Atk and I think that would bring Starmie to only Base 70, and considering that Blissey gets 255 / 60 / 185 bulk with Sablenite...yeah
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Mixed Starmie probably wouldn't work considering that Beedrillite reduces Sp.Atk and I think that would bring Starmie to only Base 70, and considering that Blissey gets 255 / 60 / 185 bulk with Sablenite...yeah
D'oh, forgot about the nerf(s). Alright then, scratch that idea. Ludicrous Speed Talonflame is still a thing though.
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:46 AM   #4261
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That is true. Although there are a ton of Pokemon who would have loved the Mega Stone and Adaptability: Terrakion, KyuB (ignoring its not allowed to Mega because it ended up being super OP), any Dragon-type ever...it was just super, super good.

Even stuff like Keldeo could have used it!
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Old 02-11-2016, 02:52 PM   #4262
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So. Sablenite Umbreon. Thoughts?
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Old 02-11-2016, 04:11 PM   #4263
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Gotta love those Magic Bounce!Eeveelutions.
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:53 PM   #4264
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So. Sablenite Umbreon. Thoughts?
Weak to Fairy and has no real offensive options.

Terrible, quite frankly.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:07 PM   #4265
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Also Umbreon is OU without a mega stone so there's no need to ruin it.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:08 PM   #4266
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Actually, its been UU for a while.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:10 PM   #4267
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The Mega Stone wouldn't change its typing, it'd still be a Dark typed Umbreon, just with 160 Defense and 180 Sp. Def. Plus lowered speed and slightly increased offenses. Also Magic Bounce. I don't see what's wrong with it, just slap Foul Play and Wish on it and you're gtg
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:12 PM   #4268
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Altarianite.

That's what wrong with it. Foul Play is awful as an offensive option.

EDIT: 252+ Atk Pixilate Entei Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Umbreon: 218-260 (55.3 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Pixilate Zygarde Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Umbreon: 276-326 (70 - 82.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Case in point.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:24 PM   #4269
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If you found a way to factor in Sablenite defense boosts with that I commend you. Still going to try it either way because 180 SpDef
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:28 PM   #4270
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You just alter the base stats in Smogon's damage calc.
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:10 PM   #4271
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Cool.

So, sampled it with more Special investment. Inferno as a 3HKO off Pidgeotite...Starmie, was it, or Victini?, about 37% taken from a Ferro explosion (I believe with Heracronite). While some things are too much for it it can also be a major wall, as shown, especially with Moonlight access. When they get sick of it and switch? Nail them with Pursuit for a sizable chunk of damage. After a while, though, it was rather underwhelming. Kinda sad as it sounds so beautiful on paper, 160 physical and 180 special defense bases are nothing to scoff at (those bases exceed those of Aegislash-Shield) and Magic Bounce frustrates Sablenite Toxic Blissey.
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:17 PM   #4272
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The main things holding it back are its typing (Weak to Focus Blast, Weak to Lopunnite, Weak to Altarianite) and its low base HP compared to other walls, and lack of any good resists (Ghost and Dark are not common).

Just how it is, unfortunately.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:20 PM   #4273
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So has anyone seen Smogon's Other Metagame of the Month (one of them at least). I looked into it, and its crack. But it looks like fun crack.
looked cool as fuck until the people started crying for bans within 15 posts of the original poster.
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Old 02-13-2016, 05:46 AM   #4274
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Oh, perhaps you are not familiar with my opinion on Mega Stones, which is that they are Satan, or my opinion on Umbreon, which is that it is the greatest Pokémon of all time.

(lol UU really? wow at least it's vaguely good in one game if not ASB)
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Umbreon is a pretty good wall. It's just that its movesets are really bland as hell.
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