06-22-2013, 08:32 PM | #5201 |
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I tried watching Tari Tari a while back because of the famous .gif of main girl-kun as a child dancing. But the episodes bored me to death and there was one major contention I had - while the main girl was supposedly good at choir but never given a chance, with the first episode ending on her singing really well, I thought she was rather bad actually!. I don't remember it specifically, but I heard a lot more AutoTune and overlay in that vocal sample I think. It's been a while, but this feeling of revulsion is still pretty clear.
If your experience continues to be positive, I might give it a try again. I just hope it's not comedy in the vein of Minami-ke. There is a scene toward the end, however, that I've seen which did strike me as hilarious. Sentai spoiler: Spoiler: show
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Not sure you should bother picking it back up just because I say I'm enjoying it if you're saying you got as far as or farther than I did and yet you hated it.
Also, I thought Konatsu sung really well. And no, I didn't feel like it was AutoTuned or anything. (I mean, I'm not saying it wasn't, but if it was, it wasn't any more so than any of the other VAs' vocals in anime nowadays, the truly gifted top 5% notwithstanding.) The one whose singing I was unimpressed with was the one boy's (the one who is in the badminton club) when he was asked to sing by their homeroom teacher in an early scene in Episode 01. I thought his singing was kinda average / below average for a human being and was well below average for a supposed vocalist. But Konatsu? No, Konatsu sang beautifully. Don't know what you heard. What's with the backhanded insult of Minami-ke? I can't even believe you're trying to compare the two series, given your apparent exposure to both, when they're nothing at all alike other than both sharing the property that we call "goodness". Minami-ke is a slice of life comedy (the slice of life comedy!) whereas Tari Tari is like a lengthy animated motion picture or like a novel turned anime. It's very mature and while it has lots of little comedic moments they're by no means the focus. (Like I said, MODESTY!) The show is first and foremost a drama. I said it in my first post: Tari Tari bears the most similarity with P.A.Works' earlier Hanasaku Iroha. So if you've seen Hanasaku Iroha, then you know what to expect here. They're not 100% identical or anything ... but the two are more similar to each other than either is to any other anime I can think of. And neither is any more like Minami-ke than they are like Pretty Cure.
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06-22-2013, 09:03 PM | #5203 |
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I only got through Episode 1, which is hardly an acceptable sample size for some shows, but the inaugural episode was like slogging through mud for me. And it ended with a predictable conclusion, and one that sharply bit into my ears.
I didn't mean to come across as insulting Minami-ke, I only mean that that type of show has a kind of humour and appeal that's completely inaccessible to me. Gintama is similar; while I've historically liked gag shows like it, something about Gintama proper denies me entry into enthusiasm. Keroro Gunsou is yet another example. All three shows are coincidentally ones you've went deep into, but they're popular enough outside of UPN for me to have investigated independently, to no avail. Maybe one day I'll get them. But that is a distant day indeed.
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Yeah. 50+ with Minami-ke, 100+ with Gintama (between three "series"), and 100+ with Keroro Gunsou, it's true.
Like I said, if you really hated Episode 01, then this probably isn't the show for you. As you saw in my first post, I got two-thirds of the way through Episode 01 and already wanted to post about it saying how much I was enjoying it at a level of about 8/10. That's worlds apart from your experience with the series, so I don't doubt that Episode 02 for you would do little to change your position. Of course, by all means check out the second episode if you like and have the time to spare. I just wouldn't suggest it if you have other things you'd rather be spending your time on. At least for now, anyway. I'll be sure to report if something amazing happens down the road to transform Tari Tari from Talon-must-see-TV to everyone-must-see-TV.
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Tari Tari: I'm through Episode 06 now. Thoughts.
This series continues to be really good. Great, even. It's not great in the epic "OMG!" Fate/Zero or Kaiji way. It's a very modest, unassuming story. What makes it great is how well executed it is. It's very human. It's never overbearing, it never tries too hard to win the crowd over. It knows the story it wants to tell and it strives to tell it perfectly. And I'd say that in a great many ways it has. When I reached the end of Episode 06, I felt like I had reached the end of "the first book" in those old-fashioned novels which had "two books" contained within them. Like Herbert's Dune. Or like Tolkien's Lord of the Rings novels. I felt like I had very, very clearly reached the end of one story ... and that I had reached the intermission or the turning point of another. Both feelings, simultaneously. Given that the end of Episode 06 is in fact the middle of the thirteen-episode series, I can't help but to feel that this is living proof of the artistic mastery of this piece. One of the series' story arcs centers around Sakai Wakana, a girl who lost her mother at the young age of about 14. This experience, of a child losing a parent, is one which is woven into the very fabric of the human condition. It's a concept which has been with me for as long as I can remember. While I've known many people over the years to have lost one or both parents, my own mother lost her mother when she was about Wakana's age. Watching Wakana for me is thus like watching the story of my own mother's alter ego. The two aren't exactly the same, of course, and I don't know that my mother was as rude towards her mother as Wakana was towards hers, but I do know that not only do they share age, gender, gender of lost parent, and role assumed in the household in common but that they both never got a chance to say good-bye. So as I watched Wakana's story unfold, I kept thinking to myself, "If I were to ever show this series to my mother, I am pretty darn sure she would cry. And I am positive she would feel like she could personally relate to the imaginary character on the other side of the television glass." Another of the story's arcs centers around Miyamoto Konatsu, an energetic young girl who loves to sing but has been stripped of her chances to sing in the school choir by a strict choral instructor following a performance-ruining blunder she made the previous year. Konatsu is half the reason I watch this show. I love this girl. If she were real, ten years older, and in my life, this is the sort of girl I would dream about dating. I love her enthusiasm for life. I love her pureheartedness. I just love her. She's great. For most of the series' earlier episodes, I would say that Konatsu is the central protagonist. In more recent episodes, the show has started to gravitate away from Konatsu towards Wakana, but I think it's fair to say that Konatsu is still the second most important character if not the most important character in the series. The animation is wonderful. While I can't help but to feel that it's a slight step below what we saw in Hanasaku Iroha, for the most part the productions are about on par. And that's saying quite a lot given what a visual wonder Hanasaku Iroha was. The music is fine but doesn't stand out much save for its three most iconic pieces: its OP, "Dreamer", its ED, "Shiokaze no Harmony", and "Kokoro no Senritsu", the last of these being a song which holds a very special in this series. (Example: the ending of Episode 06.) There are different versions of each of these songs, both in series as well as on CDs and YouTube and such. Some of them are duets. Others are quintets. In some versions, the boys provide only the supporting tenor vocals while in other versions they occasionally get to sing all by themselves for a bit while the girls are quiet. So it's not really easy for me to link you to any one of these songs (save the OP) and be like, "This is the version to listen to." Anyway, as I was saying to start with, the series' music doesn't really stand out except for these three songs. But the intrinsic beauty of "Kokoro no Senritsu" coupled with the extrinsic raw emotional power it evokes (thanks to the plot) makes it so that I can't really say that Tari Tari's music is only so-so. Most of it is ... but the one or two songs that aren't more than make up for the rest. For now, Tari Tari firmly retains its score of "8/10 - Very Good". If the second half is as artistically masterful as the first half was, a "9/10 - Great" is not out of the question. It's hard to put into words how great the show is since it doesn't evoke the same sort of kneejerk "WOW! This is amazing! "s that series like Fate/Zero or Suzumiya Haruhi might. Perhaps the easiest way for me to put it is ... Tari Tari strikes me as a production which could have easily originally been written as a novel during the 19th or early 20th centuries. It feels like the sort of story you would have been assigned to read in high school ... except this time, it's actually good.
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So besides Danganronpa and Rozen Maiden, what good looking ventures does summer offer?
Think I'm gonna give Devil Survivor 2: The Animation a try even though I never played the game Last edited by deoxys; 06-24-2013 at 06:08 PM. |
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Thanks, will have a thorough look through. Was starting to worry because summer anime looked like it was going to be potentially worse than spring's offerings, but maybe not. Lots of sequels to things I've never seen it looks like...
Decided to check out Devil Survivor because I was bored and I like to watch things while I eat... and it was... okay, I guess. The premise is interesting enough, but it feels like mature Digimon meets the pre-apocalypse (?), which is something I wasn't really expecting and it kind of threw me off. I guess if I'd played a SMT or Devil Survivor game before I wouldn't have been thrown for a loop, but I certainly wasn't expecting that. Might watch more when I'm bored, I don't know. Kaisap seems to be the only one around who likes it ^_^; |
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Tari Tari: So ... the OST sure was a lot larger than I thought it'd be. ^^; Sixty-two tracks between two CDs. I'm sure a lot of it is the same song performed different ways, but still. I hadn't even noticed most of the non-lyrical songs until getting the soundtrack. Now as I listen to them, I'm like "Oh yeah! I hear that one all the time!" I guess they just do their job of setting the mood so well that you hardly even notice them.
Yesterday I made specific reference to three of the series' lyrical songs. A fourth one which I forgot about was the very first song I listened to upon getting the soundtrack: the Condor Queens' "Amigo, Amigo". How can you start that song up and not a) want to finish the rest? and b) love it? I hear that song and I can see Lil' Konatsu dancing with her grandpa. And there are some other lyrical songs too, but they're mostly pretty darn short. :\ "Hao'uli" from Episode 04, for one. The kids' high school anthem inflected with Latin influences by the Condor Queens, for another. I watched Episode 07 yesterday. Spoiler: show While I can see how a series like Tari Tari might not be for everyone -- too slow for some, too plain for others -- I still feel that this one unfairly flew under the radar of most anime viewers. I know I didn't watch it when it aired because 1) I had just finished watching Hanasaku Iroha and didn't want to dive into what might have been a similar program so soon, 2) from the sample pictures I saw it looked like it was a series intended for the lolicon demographic, and 3) the series' premise as explained on those anime posters didn't grab me. In hindsight, I'm glad that I made that decision simply because a) I do think #1 would've been a factor and b) I think a one-episode-per-week viewing schedule would've hurt the series in my eyes. Nonetheless, I can't help but to wonder how many people made a decision the same decision not to watch Tari Tari as I did for similar reasons. |
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I watched Tari Tari when it aired. It's good you enjoyed it alot more than I did. I mean, I admit it had, to me, the best scene for an anime in 2012, but I wasn't that crazy about it. Though I umm....I forgot exactly what bothered me besides it being rushed in places. I think Kokoro Connect, a similar looking series, might have really soured my experience with this.
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Tari Tari: I might have watched Episodes 08 thru 11.
Episode 08: Spoiler: show Episode 09: Spoiler: show Episode 10: Spoiler: show Episode 11: Spoiler: show Just two more episodes to go. Tari Tari's retaining its score of 8/10 so far, although the last few episodes (despite me blasting through them) were sort of a slowdown from previous episodes. Here's hoping the series has a great finish.
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Watched more Devil Survivor 2. I think I'll stick with it for now. It's not great, but it's not bad. Piqued my interest enough to pick up the game at GameStop today, so there's that.
Episode 2 only further cemented the "interesting premise" bit, although some of the latter half of the episode was slightly corny and there are a lot of cliches and... heh, tropes... it's definitely an okay show to enjoy when you're bored. And you don't need to have seen or played the games, despite the fact that it is a sequel to another game it is also a standalone story, evidently. So, if you were a little interested, I'd recommend the first episode, but again, I'm only two episodes in so this thing could get stupid fast. |
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Shinryaku! Ika Musume (manga)
I read all of the available chapters to this. The first 50 chapters were all pretty heartwarming stories of Ika warming up to human society. After that, the manga became more of a comedy, and up until like chapter 150, it was pretty hilarious. After that, it got kind of stale, and I was wishing for some actual development from Ika. Even after it got stale, I still enjoyed reading it, since it still had some gems here and there, but my excitement from the first 100 chapters kind of died down. Also after the first development chapters, they introduced a character, and hinted she might be like Ika, but even after 200 chapters, she never appeared again, which is a big letdown. They also dropped a bunch of hints, but after that, the manga just became a SoL comedy, not even addressing Ika's conversation with her again. Overall, Ika was a cute and funny ride. I'll keep an eye out for any new chapters. The Ika Musume manga gets a 8 from me. I guess next is that manga Doppel showed me. |
06-29-2013, 01:53 AM | #5216 |
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Valvrave has really got me to appreciate Gargantia. One of the biggest complaints I have about Gargantia is it skips essential details to smooth out development - characters reach opinions with only the most haphazard of logic steps.
Valvrave is even worse, but does it with plot. Case in point Episode 1: Saki is introduced Episode 1-4: Saki is mentioned to be a school idol Episode 5: Saki is revealed to be a good singer, but she "gave it up". Episode 6: Saki is revealed to be a J-Pop super-star Literally, she upgrades from "side character" to main character in the course of two episodes. TWO. And half-way through the story! Moreover, her past is completely unknown until a heaving plot-dump at the start of episode 6. I'm going to start a topic about Valvrave, but I don't want people to watch it. It's funny, but I'm sure there's other bad anime humour shows out there.
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PhotoKano: Just watched Episode 13 (the series finale). It was fine.
Spoiler: show Final assessment of PhotoKano is that it's 5/10 - "Average". Not bad, but very, very much an average anime. I didn't dislike it but I can't deny that it wasn't largely 6 hours of my life wasted. ^^; Oh well though. At least I can say that I've seen PhotoKano now. That's got to count for something ... right? ^^; ....................... orz
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Rabuyan
I read all of the available chapters to this. Oh holy fuck is this awesome. It's basically cupid trying to find love for the creepy teacher in Azumanga Daioh. It's such a shame more of this isn't translated. The humor is fucked up and twisted, which is right down my alley. I'd give this a 9. There weren't many times I didn't laugh really hard. Next I guess I'll read Pyu to Fuku Jaguar. I've read 4 good comedy manga in a row, will this be a good 5th?! There's also a new VN translated called "If My Heart Had Wings". That might be good, so I'll download that and play when I get the chance. |
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Shows have ended!
Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san This show was okay. It's cute and the character are interesting takes on mythical creatures. Sadly most of it is just overly hyperactive and bad humor. I still somewhat enjoyed myself when watching this. I guess this gets a 6 overall. If a second season aired, I would probably watch. Afterall, I still like the characters from this. Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko This finished too. This show can be surprisingly good at times. The characters all had some interesting background stories. I've also been kind of a sucker for characters who are odd. How the main guy tied into their stories was nice too. Actually I liked some of the things he did in the last episode. Some of the details are kind of sloppy and rushed. For the most part though, I enjoyed this show. It's funny considering I jumped into this show to see how much I would hate it. Overall, I guess I'd give this a 7.5. So with this, I guess we finally get a good show from JC since Toradora? Did I forget to mention how insanely cute this is? It's enough moe to give you diabetes or kill a diabetic! Haiyore! Nyaruko-san W OH THANK FUCKING GOD THIS IS OVER! I watched this because I like the characters from Nyaruko, but I still expected it to be bad. Every episode is loaded with annoying forced ass references and jokes. The show is okay when it gets serious, which is a really bad thing to say about a comedy. This gets a 4 from me. Haah. What a horrible thing to do to good characters. Pyu to Fuku Jaguar I dropped this 3 chapters into it. The jokes are just so god damn lame. Such a shame, considering how the guy who did this also did one of my all-time favorite comedies. You win some you lose some I guess? Also I won't be touching that VN I talked about in my last post afterall. Apparently the translators 4Kids'ed it. They took out the H scenes, which in itself is fine. Unfortunately it seems they butchered the story, took out any sexual jokes, and they edited out any kissing CGs or scenes. What's stupid is their explanation for doing so is that they "wanted to appeal to a broader audience". So to appeal to maybe a few children, they push away the actual VN fans for this. Great decision! |
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Oh man, Free aired. Once the subs are out I lay claim to all topic rights!
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That's the spirit, Talon! Referring to the anime as a she because it's filled with nothing but sweaty shirtless males!
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