10-13-2012, 07:37 PM | #1 |
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
I like this series a lot, especially the first three parts. Part II is my most favourite and that'll probably be the second season.
But after sub trouble, I finally got to see the first episode of JJBA: Phantom Blood. Jonathan Joestar! ;_; I type this with a clenched fist. You know that's hard! The tears, they form Grand Canyons on my face!
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10-14-2012, 01:08 PM | #2 |
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Just finished Episode 02. Interesting. I continue to be bummed out by the subpar animation but luckily for JoJo an anime is much more than just its animation. The characters are at least moderately interesting as is the plot. But above all else the pacing is supremely satisfying. Each episode (of two so far ) has been chock-filled with gobs of plot development yet ever without being overwhelming. I only hope that they continue to keep this up for the next ten episodes or so instead of saying "lol okay we're slowing down now " in the next few weeks.
Spoiler: show Despite my enthusiastically written thoughts provided above, I should say that I still only feel like this story is in "7/10 - Good" territory and even then only if viewed through the forgiving lens of "Okay, okay, this show is for kids, not adults." I'd like to see the show achieve truly great heights, something I'd think it'd have to do if it really has earned its place in Japanese history as one of the longest-running manga series ever. But so far, while I am enjoying it, it's been the sort of show that I'd table if I didn't have so many more appropriate candidates to drop or table first. ^^; EDIT: Oh yeah, I completely forgot. Despite the regular in-episode animation being disappointing, the opening, which we just saw for the first time this week, is amazing. It's only too bad the show itself couldn't have been as interestingly animated.
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10-14-2012, 02:05 PM | #3 | |
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I couldn't disagree more with the opening. BBB got my hopes up too, but then I saw a bunch of CGI and got turned off. While JJBA is very musically oriented, I'd very much have liked something like HxH's first opening to really define the series. At least something metal, like from MAXIMUM THE HORMONE!
Animation-wise, it's not that great yeah, but this looks to be the first major work by a small studio (David Production) that only opened its doors in 2007. They managed to preserve all the JJBA style points, and since this is an absolutely huge story, I'm fine with a good style/lesser animation. Quote:
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10-21-2012, 12:03 AM | #4 |
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Just saw Episode 03. The ecstasy and the agony ...!
Cons: The most obvious problem with JoJo's Bizarre Adventure's 2012 anime adaptation showed itself for the first time ever in this week's episode and good fucking gracious was it obnoxious! That problem ... was blood and gore censorship. They censored out everything. Sample pictures to prove my point. Scene 01: Spoiler: show Scene 02: Spoiler: show Scene 03: Spoiler: show Scene 04: Spoiler: show Scene 05: (not so much "censorship" as "they clearly took advantage of the fire") Spoiler: show Unbelievable, isn't it? Ridiculous, I know. It's just insane how bad the censorship is here. Take the censorship of ToLoveRu Darkness ... multiply it by the censorship in BTOOOM! ... take that number to the power of the censorship seen in Maken-Ki! ... and you might, might get a value close to the level of censorship we see here. [/exaggeration] Seriously! This is terrible! I think I may have to drop the show just because of this! The only other complaint I have with this episode is that I feel like Dio ... Spoiler: show Pros: But I don't want to drop the series! ^^; Because the series has pretty much done everything else right. It captured the feel of a 19th century Victorian horror story very well with this episode and fused it with 1980s, 1990s shounen manga. Interesting! I really loved the plot within this episode, my complaint about Dio's decision (see above) put aside. Speedwagon was awesome. Lord Joestar was awesome. JoJo was awesome. The climax of the episode (post-rooftop) was great. It was just great all around. The only thing which would have made it better would've been if JJBA's narrator could pull off for this series what Conclusion: So what do I do? Well, for now I definitely keep watching. But there's no way I'm archiving the TV broadcast for this series. It just isn't worth it. Not with this level of censorship. (Well plaaaaaayed, studio. ¬_¬ Well played.) And I'll just have to hope that by the time we get to the next episode with this degree of violence in it, perhaps Japan will have calmed the fuck down about violence in anime and will quit fucking censoring things this badly. Put the show on cable TV if you have to, guys, but don't censor it like this. This is awful.
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10-21-2012, 03:56 AM | #5 | |
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The censorship was pretty bad. The DVDs are definitely going to be clean.
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10-28-2012, 10:55 PM | #6 |
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Damn I forgot to post here. I watched episode 4 and all that. The show is cool as hell and all, but it's really REALLY shounen. I was sort of hoping it'd be a bit more down to earth with the only real supernatural thing being the mask, but it seems we have to introduce a bunch of superpowers for everyone.
Maybe I just need to get used to it. Also I might rewatch this when it gets a DVD release. While the censors don't bother me that much, I would still like to see the show unedited. |
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As for the DVD thing, Commie already confirmed that their entire staff is pretty much lovin' JoJo immensely and they very much plan to do the DVDs/BDs given the ridiculous censorship in the television broadcast.
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10-28-2012, 11:16 PM | #8 |
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I've just been watching through Nutbladder. They seem to be the fastest and most consistent group, so I went with them. Other than the bad encoding in episode 1, I haven't really noticed any problems.
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10-28-2012, 11:23 PM | #9 |
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Oh wow, I abandoned Nutbladder after they finished Kaiji S2 and announced rather publically that they were retiring from fansubbing which was then followed by them not subbing anything for the few weeks I still checked in after that announcement. They're back subbing things again? Crazy. Not sure I'd take them over Commie ... but then again, Commie's subs haven't been perfect either and this is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure we're talking about: the television broadcast is so bad no one's going to be archiving it anyway.
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10-29-2012, 03:52 PM | #10 |
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Saw Episode 04. It was much better than I was hoping it would be. Lots of unintentional laughs at how over-the-top shounen it is (you gotta love Speedwagon! ) and lots of intentional smiles and excitement with the new character on Team Joestar and the plot progression.
Spoiler: show I still haven't seen anything which has convinced me that this is one of the greatest manga series of all time, something I'd think it'd have to have been considering its ridiculous print run, but Doppel has told us ad nauseum that things don't get really good until the second or third story arc so I guess it'll be a while before we can see why people love JJBA so, so much. But I am enjoying it. Definitely wouldn't drop it, though the bad animation does disappoint me. It's excellent stylistically (all the manga stuff they do) but it's terribad details-wise (the character animations, the color palettes, etc).
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10-29-2012, 05:54 PM | #11 |
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The super-powers of the fodder generally do resemble blood in the veins of One Piece (rather dissimilar to Naruto IMV) where they're just random techniques/weapons, but the explanations are a bit better in Part 3.
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11-03-2012, 12:50 PM | #12 |
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With the maniac pacing of Episode 5, it looks to me like Battle Tendency will start before the season end's mark (Episode 12). I felt this week's episode was a tad rushed, but one might be surprised to learn that it condensed less manga than previous episodes. Prior to this, 3-4 chapters went into an episode. This week's was only two, and we get to see Dio's two strongest minions, although they're not introduced as such right now.
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11-04-2012, 06:07 PM | #13 |
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Just finishing Episode 05. Seems like the series has taken a small step backwards for me with these two henchmen of Dio's and with all the silly sentai-esque names for the fist attacks JoJo and Zeppeli seem to keep coming up with. But it wasn't a bad episode either. Lots of plot advancement (God bless you, anime with 2+ manga chapters per episode! :'D) and a bit of character development for our three heroes. I also liked the twist at the end with the direction JoJo went.
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Just watched episode 6. I've finally figured out what annoyed me in this show. The shouting narrating thing everyone does is just really really silly. I've never liked it when shounens have people shout everything the characters do in fights. They should do the shouting narration when Jojo does everyday things.
Blonde guy: "JOJO'S EATING SOUP! HE BETTER WATCH OUT OR ELSE HE'LL SPILL IT!" Magician guy: "He's using this small metal rod with a small dome at the end of it. With this, he'll surely eat his soup without spilling it!" Blonde guy: "I WANT SOME SOUP TOO!" Magician guy: "This is special training. If he can't control the ripples in his stomach, then he won't be able to fight Dio!" Peeve aside, the fight in the episode was pretty good, though episode 6 spoiler Spoiler: show I was really excited about the first two episodes, but things have kinda been going downhill for me. |
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lol @ all of the rock names that have turned up thus far. We have ...
This week's episode, Episode 06, was okay but ... Spoiler: show bbb, the highlight "LET'S NARRATE EVERYTHING!" humor moment for me this episode was undoubtedly: Spoiler: show
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Bruford eventually comes back...sort of.
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On the subject of the over-the-top narration, it gets even worse in Part II: Battle Tendency, but takes a step back for Part III and forever onwards.
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In response to Suigin's question:
Episode 6 spoiler Spoiler: show That said, that's partly why I can't stand it. I've always hated it when people stated the obvious to me. I can't help but find it insulting. I know that's not the intention of the narration, but I still can't help but associate it with someone treating you like an idiot. |
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Episode 07:
The anime continues to satisfy with its generous pacing. The animation, particularly in the opening scene (a flashback with Zeppeli and Tonpeti), was really improved over what we've seen previously. Not sure if the studio got a generous cash infusion with which to hire more talent or what but that beginning portion was like watching a completely different studio's work. Things kind of returned to the normal level as we progressed but it was still overall an above average episode for this series when it comes to looks. As for the content, thoughts inside. Spoiler: show
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He never stops being cool, but he's never a fighter. Wait until you get to Battle Tendency. Bizarre stuff. Like his name implies, Dio has a god-complex and isn't against doing what gods do - make weird stuff.
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11-25-2012, 08:40 PM | #21 |
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Quite the contrary, the ripple is the most effective anti-vampire weapon outside of the sun itself. The big benefit is, like Hokuto Shinken, if a hamon user gets a clear shot of the vampire and can project ripple energy into their body, it's invariably fatal.
Spoiler: show When I first read Phantom Blood, I thought Dio's freezing was more like display of how powerful he was, rather than a viable (and critical) anti-ripple technique. After all, he hadn't encountered the ripple before that and so wouldn't have specifically developed a technique to counter it. There's some curious foreshadowing in this episode, but none of you would be able to notice without the benefit of hindsight. It's impossible to know otherwise, but I invite speculation. Spoiler: show As for what's to come, there's a small mini-arc left to wrap up the Phantom Blood events. It's mostly epilogue, part prologue to Battle Tendency. I have no idea how Studio David is going to pace these episodes, because they could conceivably wrap everything up next week if they wanted to. But we're still a ways from January, when Battle Tendency was supposed to start.
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I think your picture, intended as a harmless breadcrumb of a clue, gave away far too much, Doppel. If I may:
Spoiler: show I could be way off base but if I'm not then you said too much even with one picture and should be ashamed of yourself.
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In response to Doppel's spoilerific torrent of info.
Spoiler: show All of this stated, if I am wrong, then you should probably just keep quiet rather than correcting me and further digging your grave. And if I am right? You should still keep quiet because you just keep letting more and more cats out of the bag and it's all your fault! "Oh this won't spoil Talon ... " *spoils me* "Oh, whoops. Sorry. Well since you're already spoiled there, I may as well tell you ..." *further spoils me* "Whoops, sorry. @_@ But now that you're THAT spoiled, I may as well-" NO! No more spoilers! Me responding to the crap you're spoiling me with is NOT an invitation to keep dumping spoilers on me! ^^; I wrote what I said in the first place trying to indicate that you might have said too much! NOT to indicate that you should keep saying much! hahahahahahahahaha
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11-25-2012, 09:58 PM | #25 |
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I think I've done a pretty good job at fueling your imagination, without dropping anything too major.
For a shounen manga, there's far less to speculate on in JJBA rather than, say, Hunter x Hunter since most of the story is presented before the viewer's eyes. However, Araki (true to the title) is prone to take his story in otherwise un-predictable directions, so it's good to expect the un-expected. For example, Spoiler: show Granted, Araki does create speculation fuel at the end of Part VI. But, we're a few years away from those stories, at best.
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