01-17-2017, 03:20 AM | #76 | |
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Spoiler: show You're too young to remember this, but I was older then than you are now. I remember it well. The GBA had only just come out three short years earlier (2001), and yet already (2004) Nintendo was rolling out this strange new clamshell device called the DS. They swore up and down that it was only a novelty item meant to co-exist alongside the GBA, that the GBA would continue to be the home for the biggest releases whereas the DS would be an exotic side platform meant to house titles built from the ground up to utilize the dual screens and the touch-sensitive bottom screen. They lied.
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01-20-2017, 12:31 AM | #77 | |
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01-20-2017, 10:10 AM | #78 |
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But, outside of no longer being used in Nintendo's official competitive format for 2017 tournaments, has anything occurred to actually devalue those games since their release? They're still a unique Pokemon adventure on Nintendo's current handheld platform (Until they actually give the New 3DS a proper push into relevancy). Just because they aren't the newest game in the main series doesn't mean their price should automatically be cheaper.
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01-20-2017, 11:08 AM | #79 |
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http://www.gamestop.com/ds/games/pokemon-diamond/64184
D/P has never been less than $40. I've learned that if I want a game from Nintendo, it's better to preorder the game and pay for it little by little rather than hope for a price drop. |
01-20-2017, 11:43 AM | #80 | |
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That being said, 2 black friday's ago, xy and oras were half off at my local target. That was a shocker. |
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01-20-2017, 01:35 PM | #81 |
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I'm pretty sure most of the reason for a lack of pricedrop is their "necessity" for dex completion. You can't get Xerneas in SM or ORAS. Until HGSS you need RSE to get Rayquaza, Groudon, and Kyogre, etc., and RSE were consistently $15-20 more than pretty much every GBA game while they were still being sold used. It's always been the case that Pokemon games have had inflated price points while other games have taken price drops.
Hell, the DS PMD games are $25.
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01-31-2017, 04:22 PM | #82 |
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First I've heard this: Nintendo's shares dropped after the Switch reveal. And lest I steal the article's thunder, the juicy climax in the spoiler tag below:
Spoiler: show Separate news story: Nintendo has confirmed that they will be offering battery replacement as a paid service. The price is not yet known. One of my main reasons for holding off on buying a launch Switch is the battery, as I had hoped a Switch Lite revision would see a return to user-replaceable batteries. But most commenters online have noted that Samsung and Apple smartphones have never let you do this and the move in the market is generally away from user-replaceables and towards this. JoyCons apparently will sell for $49.99 per stick, and $79.99 for a bundle pack containing one of each. If it were $49.99 for the pair, fine, but $80 for the pair is kinda crappy seeing as most XBox One and PS4 controllers only cost around $50, and a full second controller is the price of admission for friends coming over to play multiplayer games with you.
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01-31-2017, 05:27 PM | #83 |
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To be fair in relation to their stocks and whatnot, the share prices dropped after its initial video reveal as well, which was incredibly well received by most anybody besides the shareholders it seems. Nintendo's stock appears to primarily only go up when mobile games or the success of mobile games are mentioned, as seen when Pokemon Go's success inflated Nintendo's stock incredibly despite it not even really being Nintendo's game and such.
A more reasonable assessment (potentially) of the console's success or otherwise I would think would be its pre-order numbers so far. To start with, Nintendo is ramping up production from its initial plans of moving 2 million units for its first month due to the sheer amount of pre-orders. Many retailers worldwide have completely sold through their pre-orders, many in the first day of the Switch's announcement. If we assume that they manage to sell through their initial Nintendo Switch stock of 2 million in the first month, that would put its launch far ahead of the Wii U's 890k (which was still surprisingly good for the console) and more on par with the PS4's launch where they'd sold 2.1 million units in the first 2-3 weeks and 4.2 million by the end of December (about a month and a half after release). If the Switch patterns that release, outside of holiday season no less, I think the launch could pretty easily be considered a success. Now, obviously we'll have to see how many pre-orders have ended up being cancelled and this sort of analysis could be wildly off base so I guess we'll see lol |
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>tfw online price is a third of what people were expecting
Nice.
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02-01-2017, 07:47 PM | #86 |
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That is actually fantastic. Wow.
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02-01-2017, 09:36 PM | #87 |
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On the one hand, $20/yr sounds pretty nice.
On the other hand, why the fuck am I paying Game Freak $5/yr for Pokémon Bank?
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02-02-2017, 06:33 PM | #89 |
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So $30 a year in US funbucks? Plenty of wiggle room for 'em to up the price over the years just as MS/Sony have while still getting to say they're the cheapest.
Why are people paying for Live/PSN when PC gamers don't have to? Even better when Live/PSN games allow people to play against people on the PC versions! |
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Maybe your jaded outlook on this is justified by information I don't have, but if that isn't the case then I don't see where it's valid to assume that their surprisingly cheap online service will be randomly jacked up in a year or two. This is Nintendo we're talking about, not AT&T. Also, nitpicking, but $15-$25 is very different from $30. Your figure is half the price of XBox Live Gold (Great), whereas the actual figure looks to be coming out to around a third, or even as low as a quarter (Absolutely Fantastic) I get that you don't like that Online Multiplayer isn't free like it is for PC gaming, but them's the breaks. In all reality, I'm happy it isn't gonna cost $60 like it might have. $20 in a year is something pretty much anyone can afford. Besides, I would actually argue Nintendo has more of a reason to bill for such things than Microsoft or Sony do given they have much more (and higher quality imo) first party content at their disposal- while you might be able to easily ditch your XBox One for a PC, ditching a Switch for one is much harder since you won't get the chance to play Mario or Pokemon. Last edited by Snorby; 02-02-2017 at 08:09 PM. |
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03-12-2017, 11:36 AM | #94 |
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so, what have people thought of the switch?
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03-13-2017, 02:33 PM | #95 |
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I love it. I can bring it to work with me and play console games at work. I just love how portable it is. It's somewhat heavy, so prolonged play in handheld mode can make my wrists a little sore.
My only real complaint is how barebones it is. It's not a huge deal, but the system is so clean that it's almost... too clean. Devoid of much content. Almost feels like they just knew they needed a working OS and UI to get out there just to run basic functionality and are just going to keep developing it post-release... which is fine as long as they remain somewhat frequent. More games on eshop, a browser, and a few basic apps like YouTube and Netflix would take this thing a lot farther. Sure, I can do those on other devices, but I'd rather not if I have it on the Switch. In time this will all be filled out and revamped. My other complaint is the big one: the design of the charger port. I understand the port is on the bottom for the sake of slipping the Switch into the dock, but it's really annoying because it means you can't set it down on the kickstand while charging. People have made 3D printed docks to circumvent this, but not everyone has access to a 3D printer. I dunno, it's just a pain in the ass. I hope a third party releases a super portable switch charging dock soon so I can charge and play with the controller on the go. HD Rumble: I've not yet experienced this, well, not really. I haven't played 1 2 Switch or anything, so the most experience I've had is in Zelda - and it only utilizes it slightly when towers rise out of the ground at the beginning of the game. It rumbles from the bottom of the joycons upward, so you can feel a rumble move from the bottom of the joycon to the very top, slowly and repeatedly. It was interesting, but not enough to make me say anything more than "neat". I'm sure the experience with HD rumble will be way more interesting in games that have more focus on it. All in all... for $299, I think it's a great system, and I definitely feel happy with my purchase. I recommend it. If Zelda, Snipperclips, Fast RMX, Shovel Knight, or Binding of Isaac don't tickle your fancy though, you may want to wait a little while for more stock to become available anyway while they flesh the library and eshop out a bit, because the barebones feel of the system UI and the eshop is the worst aspect of the system thus far. Otherwise it's a wonderful and brilliant system, probably Nintendo's best in a really long time. |
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Redditor notes that his/her Switch is bending. Others start to as well.
Yet another reason to hold off on a first-generation Switch, it looks like:
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03-29-2018, 10:43 AM | #97 |
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It's been about a year now since the Switch came out, and there is still no option to back up your save data nor are there any announced plans to support on-cartridge saving with certain Switch games.
Which brings us to Pokémon, and the question of what Nintendo or Game Freak, either/or, are going to do to combat the inevitable ghoul that is players losing the creatures they poured thousands of hours into to breed, EV train, and level up. Based on some shallow Googling, it seems like the general consensus right now is, "Buyer beware: don't buy a Switch if you're going to later regret it when your console dies and you lose all of your save data." Millions of happy gamers are still buying in, praying that they won't be the unlucky few who suffer catastrophic hardware failure, but it's easy to find the anecdotes on Reddit and gaming journalism websites of people who lost everything when their console bricked. Do you think we're due for a Switch 2.0? There's been a lot said about Nintendo's mishandling of USB-C and how things that would ordinarily be perfectly safe can brick a Switch. Then there's the console warping discussion from last year. Should these and other issues be addressed with a mid-cycle hardware revision? Or do we only want/need software patches for the time being and so long as we get our ability to back up save files we're good? What's the general attitude here on UPN? Should someone who hasn't purchased a Switch yet hold out for an announcement this year of a hardware revision coming late 2018 or any time 2019? Or should they take the plunge and buy a Switch now?
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I think with the pioneering idea of the PokeBank, the future seems obvious: Nintendo's going to handwave any technical problems with their device by expanding cloud synching for pretty much everything.
From what I've read of both Nintendo and Gamefreak, though, they seem like very old dogs learning new tricks at a snail's pace. Clearly, they can't be Google, Amazon or even Activision, but re-engineering the Switch seems too risky in a world where Japanese content creators feel immensely pressured by mobile gaming. Take this Junichi Matsuda quote on why BF was excluded from ORAS: Quote:
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