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Concept is correct on this.
Also, reiterating what Loki said earlier, Con... I'm curious as to the angle they use in teaching the Revolutionary War over in your neck of the woods? I've always wondered. |
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Can't speak for Concept, but I didn't learn much about the Revolution in actual school because in pirmary school (6-10) we learned about one basic topic per year (Tudors, Egypt, etc.), then in secondary school we covered two subjects per year in the first three years (similar sort of things), but then I stopped at age 13 because I didn't choose to take GCSE History.
Did learn about things like the displacement of the Native Americans, WWI/WWII, but the American Revolution wasn't really covered. |
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We have a lot more history to teach than you :p - as a result we don't do much in a great deal of detail, unfortunately (except twentieth century stuff, 1918-1970 odd, did loads of that). I covered it briefly in about a week way back when I was 14 or so as part of a much larger topic area covering the colonial period in general, it's not really given any more attention than any other aspect of the colonial period. I spent a lot more time learning about the slave trade that year than I did the American Revolution, which is a shame because it'd probably be quite interesting. Stuff like the English Civil War I did in more detail.
I think for us, history is taught with a fairly balanced focus on both events and trends - so while we covered key events and periods during the colonial age we also spent a lot of time talking in general about stuff like how the slave trade was conducted and so on. S'all pretty interesting, only stopped doing it after GCSE (when I was 16) because A-level covered roughly the same period as GCSE only in more detail. Ditto earlier when I first started secondary school, we covered specific events like the Normal invasion of Britain (Battle of Stamford Bridge, Battle of Hastings), but then spent much of the year talking more generally about the medieval period.
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I've always been a little annoyed with how much emphasis is placed on American history in American schools, at the expense of a greater world and ancient history education. America only occupies a brief spotlight in Earth history, but at least 50-75% of public (and probably private) school education focuses on it here. I love living in America, but it's kind of pathetic how little we know about the rest of the world, unless you consciously go out of your way like I did (to focus on ancient history).
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4th grade: Indiana history (Northwest Territories - pre-Civil War as far as I can recall) 5th grade: World History with a heavy focus on America (like, I remember this is the year I learned about Dias, de Gama, Magellan, Columbus, Hudson, and others who were searching for ways to reach the (East) Indies. 6th grade: World History Part I
9th grade: World History for Big Kids
11th grade: US History Part II
Some time after I graduated, our school system started doing World History AP. This replaced the one you see me listing as our Grade 9 history course. Aside from that, I think that this format is what most kids in Indiana's public schools still follow today. And, if I may say so, I think it's pretty good 'n' diverse. I don't feel our education was lacking, even if I do regret that two entire years (Grades 8 and 11) are devoted to the history of only one 250-year old nation. Then again, as citizens in this country, it does help to have a good understanding of where we've been if you want to better understand where we are now and where we might be going in the near future.
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>Rangeet logic: (enter here if you find any)
>Christian logic: Man is imperfect as a result of allowing sin into his life >Everyone else: They're just fucking words made by man to express emotion, and therefore can't be sinful. |
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Disclaimer: Let it be known that unownmew is in no way allowed to represent the beliefs of the Christian or even Mormon population at large. They're his personal beliefs, and though they may be shared with others, we all realize by now that they are not shared with anyone else on the Debate forum.
Therefore, the correct statement is: >Rangeet logic: If you can find it, put it here. >unownmew logic: If you can find it, put it here. >Everyone else's logic: They're just words with negative social stigma. We could easily decide arbitrarily that all those words were useful in accurately describing our sentiments at any time and instead attach the status of "curse words" to the words: Fat Carp Daisy Dickens Tupac Or other, less random, examples that at least make sense. You have to remember that these words are not found in other languages, and though they do translate to each other and mean approximately the same thing, "damn" is only a curse word in English and I think German and French (but only due to phonetic similarities). S*** and M******* (spanish) do not at all sound the same. Also, "Condom" in Argentina is a naughty word, too!
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As far as I'm concerned, there are no bad words. The only thing I really mentally refrain from doing verbally is taking the Lord's name in vain, and that's because it's directly prohibited and there is good philosophy backing that position up.
I don't get offended when non-Christians or even other Christians say it, though. The only time I've ever asked someone not to blaspheme was my sister... and that's because she's my sister. |
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Yeah, I was always told the same thing as Deo. Saying things like 'Oh god/lord' is technically acceptable due to them being substitute title since God is a bit tetchy about people using his actual name. Or something.
Probably got something wrong there, but still. |
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Man is not a fallen state of God. Man is a fallen state of Man.
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