11-05-2012, 11:18 AM | #1 |
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On India and public urination
The BBC reports in this article about public urination and defecation in India how one state, Rajasthan, is trying to shame citizens into no longer doing so.
Not really sure how to feel about this. I have a mix of conflicting emotions and thoughts. For the most part, I'm against public urination or defecation. I would cite health reasons and social reasons for this. On the other hand, though, I don't think that the right tactic is to shame and humiliate these people with bands of
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11-05-2012, 11:27 AM | #3 |
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Being an Indian, I know that this is more likely to work than most other efforts. It's not that people can't build toilets in their own homes. It's that they find stuff like alcohol more important to spend money on and so they don't want to. Agreed that Rajasthan isn't the richest of states in India, but they also mention that they'll be 'giving financial assistance' which should be enough in most places where people do this shit (LOL). It's stuff like this that often works in India and I think this is a great initiative, though I'm not entirely sure about its success and its consequences.
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11-05-2012, 11:32 AM | #4 | |
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That stated, I'll definitely admit I have never been to India, am not Indian, do not have Indian family members, and so on. So my understanding may be very shallow and misguided vs. someone else's understanding who has actually grown up in India. But I can still come at this topic with my own opinions formed from my own experiences in life. And those experiences suggest to me that:
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11-05-2012, 11:41 AM | #5 |
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Actually, as a native Indian, I'm no more qualified to talk about this than you are- which is, very little. I'm a city guy. The difference between cities and villages in India is straight-up gobsmacking wtf. I can't find words to describe it, but takku, I think you'll understand. Even our cities aren't much to speak about, but the villages can be utterly backwards at times.
That's all. I can't form an opinion as I know absolutely nothing about anything in this. But India is utterly weird, and putting pressure on people might actually make them BE able to make that change, as many, many people don't feel a toilet is even necessary compared to a TV. Not joking.
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11-05-2012, 11:45 AM | #6 |
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I don't really have anything constructive to add that wouldn't be redundant, so I'll just provide an anecdote.
Once upon a time, around Y2K, I saw a baseball game at Pacific Bell Park in San Francisco. It's significant because I didn't care about baseball then, but I'm a huge baseball nut now for the Giants. I didn't know the value of what I was watching! Anyway, on the way back, we got held up in traffic and saw a guy taking a leak on the wall of a McDonalds after he left the building. The implication was, he wasn't allowed to use the restaurant's bathroom, so he went on the wall. Payback never felt so good. I found it hilarious and the whole car rioted in laughter. The guy clearly didn't care if people were watching, he had to do what he had to do. Oh, maybe I can connect this to the topic. Unless India has a deep seated tradition of pride/shame, I'm not sure this works. But it can't hurt and while pee isn't poop, it has enough residual staying power to not be hygienic.
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