02-21-2017, 03:46 PM | #276 |
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So, I've recently arrived on Poni Island, the fourth of the major Alolan islands. Explored some maritime trailer homes, fought some trainers, collected some berries, and am stationed right outside some rust-colored wall. A couple of updates ... Spoiler: show
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02-21-2017, 05:07 PM | #278 |
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specifically in the patches of grass in Hau'oli City
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02-21-2017, 06:02 PM | #279 |
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Given what a pain in the ass Abra can be to catch, and given how hard I worked in Gen 6, I think it'll just be easier for me to pair an XYORAS 6V parent with an XYORAS 5V Synchronize Ralts, produce a clone, and import that clone via Bank. But I appreciate the pointers about Abra availability in Gen 7.
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02-22-2017, 04:18 AM | #280 |
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You can use bank as soon as you can access a PC ingame.
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03-02-2017, 11:11 AM | #281 |
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In the week since my last post, I made quite a bit of progress pretty early on and then ground to a screeching halt for the past five or so days. I think you can guess where I am in the game. ;P But just in case you can't, and are wanting to avoid spoilers -- the following discussion is safe to read if you have returned to the Altar of the Let's Put Extra Letters On The End Of The Word For An Old-Timey Feel for a second plot-driven time. (Best I can do.)
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03-02-2017, 03:23 PM | #282 |
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03-03-2017, 05:28 AM | #284 |
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N is probably one of the best written characters in any Pokemon game.
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03-03-2017, 10:43 AM | #285 |
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I have to take personal offense to anyone calling Colress shitty.
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07-03-2017, 06:01 PM | #286 |
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I beat the main story of Pokémon Sun several days ago. Where I last left off, back in early mid-March, I was saved in front of Solgaleo, soft resetting until I managed to capture one who was Adamant with 31s in HP, Attack, and Speed. I put the game down to bunker down on some Japanese studies ... and I was so engrossed in my studies that I couldn't really justify to myself going back until the North American Internationals was on top of me and I suddenly felt overwhelmed by how left out I would be if they were doing things there that I couldn't partake in because I hadn't beaten the game yet. While I didn't end up doing much with my game there in the end ^^; , I did at least manage to clear the main story before I drove down to Indianapolis later that same day. I thought the game was okay. The game has never captured me the way it has so many of you. Even at the very end, I was underwhelmed by quite a lot. For me, it's easy to classify Sun and Moon as a "bottom half" Pokémon game, lumped in with GS and BW1. It's not only not my favorite Pokémon game of all time: it's not even close. But that doesn't mean I thought it was a bad game. It was okay. Spoiler: show
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07-03-2017, 06:16 PM | #287 |
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Wow it's almost like you're being critical of difficulty because you were overlevelled as fuck and fully EV trained and forgetting the demographics of this game is for actual kids.
>aren't we at that point in the franchise where it's not okay to catch 'em all? ...what's the slogan for this franchise again, was it something about catching things? Your complaints about difficulty are what really pisses me off though. Saying the games are easy? BULLSHIT. They're easy if you never put the Exp Share off, and grind like hell so you're like level 70+ by the end of Poni Isle, then of course they're going to be fucking easy. If you play casually and with the curve? Oh hell no, the games are brutal. The movesets may not be competitive, but when you're running into things with maxed IVs AND fully EV trained, you know you're in for a challenge. |
07-03-2017, 06:22 PM | #288 |
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I mean, the games aren't that hard. I was pretty underlevelled for most of the game, just cause I was getting sick of fighting every damn mon that popped up, and the only time I felt any real difficulty was when I get RNG fucked by Lurantis and with the sudden level gap in the Elite 4. Like pretty much every pokemon game, it actually isn't that difficult of a game.
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07-03-2017, 06:32 PM | #289 |
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>E4
This really depends on what level you were going in to it. Level-matching them is usually enough for some sort of challenge. I ended up level-matching them without serious grinding until straight before the E4, even with the exp share on. As for the composition... it makes sense. It was supposed to be the kahunas. Nanu refused so Acerola stepped in, and the then-kahuna of Poni died before the game begins and so they went for 'Generic strong trainer who's a friend of Kukui' instead of the brand-new kahuna of Poni who literally got made kahuna days before the league's launch. >Lillie Lillie leaves primarily to take care of her mother. That's the main reason she gives for leaving. She mentions getting stronger as something she plans to do, but the primary reason is that Lusamine's going to Kanto to talk to Bill, and Lillie's practically her carer.
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My ceremonial team consisted of Decidueye (starter), Rimbombee (good ally), Bewear (rarely used in practice but I like it in theory), Minior (used a few times), Solgaleo (story reasons), and Pyukumuku (team mascot). I would not agree with you that Level 62 is "overleveled as fuck." The lowest level an Elite Four has is apparently Level 54. Eight levels beneath my highest level. Right around where my lowest level was. "Overleveled," maybe ever so slightly. But this was nothing at all like Gen 6 where I went to the Elite Four, without even trying, with a team in the mid-80s ... I think you missed the part where I said that I didn't do any EV training whatsoever until after Solgaleo was captured. In other words, I only ever fought six trainers with an EV-trained team. One at the foot of a mountain, four in four chambers, and one atop a building. Now of course you're entitled to your opinion that I only had an easy time of things with the E4 because of EV training ... but I can assure you that I would have had just as easy of a time with them without EV training. Because with EV training, I didn't even have to use any items. Without EV training, I would have likely only needed to use potions in between battles to ensure no KOs -- because I don't like being wasteful, including with EXP. I am 99.99% confident I would have one-shotted this E4 without any EV training and without any item use if I would have also had to suck up some KOs. I one-shotted Lusamine without any EV training, without any item usage, and without any previous knowledge of her team where apparently others have struggled with her. Not forgetting. Just disappointed. The team seems to have had at least one internal power struggle between a minimum of two factions, and you see the manifestations of this power struggle as you look across Gens 4, 5, 6, and 7. For example, Gen 4 introduced a number of new things hugely reliant on there being no such thing as Team Preview ... and then Gen 5 comes immediately afterward and hey look Team Preview. On the topic of difficulty, that same generation introduced difficulties which you could enable post-game. A lot of players requested the ability to turn these on at the start of the game. And then Gen 6 came along and ... helloooooooooooooooo, Easy Mode. Quote:
We're long past the point where every boss from every boss battle has to be capturable. I am fully ready for the games to give us a non-captural Primal Groudon. (Didn't happen.) Or a non-capturable Primal Dialga (orig. Dark Dialga). Or a horde battle where the player only gets to send out one Pokémon against Azelf, Mesprit, and Uxie all out at once. The game offered a pretty good glimmer of hope for this with Nihilego's debut -- NPCs telling you left and right you can't capture it, the game of course denying you the opportunity to capture it ... I would have been perfectly fine with the Ultra Beasts being uncapturable. They're not Pokémon. (The game states as much!) They're aliens from another dimension. With how they unveil Nihilego, it would have been completely conceivable that the end of Story Mode had us confronting Buzzwole/Pheromosa with our newly-captured Solgaleo/Lunala and pushing the Ultra Beast back through the portal from whence it came. Instead, I'm to understand that I'll be capturing a Buzzwole of my very own shortly. Cool for the tots who buy into all of the "GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL!" hype. Considerably less cool for the older kids and the adults who are tired of easy boss fights and who hunger for a real, the-entire-party-gets-wiped-out challenge. Since the dawn of time, legendary battles have been less about being scared you were going to have all your Pokémon faint and have been more about you being scared that the first guy you send out will KO the legendary. It's time for that to change.
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* As I recall, there were two things holding me back from just squashing Lurantis instantly with my starter:
So again: is Lurantis a strictly "hard fight"? Well no, if you don't dick around like me, you can KO Lurantis in 1-2 shots and then KO its summon on the third shot. A two or three-turn battle, max. But does it become a hard fight if you begin to do weird things as I did? Oh yes, absolutely. Quote:
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To be honest, I kinda would've liked that death to have been explored more from the League side of things. Maybe a remark from Hala or Olivia about how they're sad that the four/three-excluding-Nanu of them couldn't be here together to witness this day. Maybe a comment from Kukui, like, "Hey, old man ... are you watching from up there?" I get that he's Poni's hakuna, but he was also all of theirs' friend and colleague. Who knows? Maybe in Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon he's still alive and we'll get the chance to meet him. Quote:
I guess this will be something to pay closer attention to in the Japanese script if/when I buy Moon. They've got it on sale right now for $30. I'm unsure of the purchase, but if I do buy it, I will definitely choose to play it in Japanese. It'll be a two-birds-one-stone experience, and just generally fun.
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I personally found Sun and Moon to be a pleasant step up in terms of difficulty compared to previous games. Still not insanely difficult, but I actually did lose to some ingame opponents. First of which being that one Ace Trainer whose Rockruff and Slowpoke hold Red Cards. He actually took out my Rockruff and Torracat in the same turn- Torracat attacked Slowpoke, getting promptly switched for Rockruff via Red Card. Rockruff took a Water Gun and fainted, and when Torracat came back in, the Stealth Rock his Rockruff had set up finished the job. I couldn't even be mad at that, I was more impressed than anything else. I mean, I beat Alpha Sapphire with a team of Happiny, Sunkern, Feebas, Luvdisc, Nosepass, and Farfetch'd, and only ever needed to use one Revive in battle, and that was against the Champion. And I played all the way through the Delta Episode. So yeah, I for one found it clear that Sun and Moon were stepping up their game a little bit. I mean, for the first time in a long time, I had to temporarily add something to my team I had no intention of using permanently to assist me against a boss- when I got to Totem Wishiwashi, my team was still just Torracat and Rockruff. So I led with a Steenee, because I'd seen several YouTube videos, which suggested that Totem Wishiwashi always goes with Soak against Grass-types. And sure enough, I switched Steenee for Torracat, and ended up with a Water-type Torracat. Losing the weakness to Water was a huge help, but yeah, without that Steenee, Wishiwashi would've swept my team with no trouble.
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07-04-2017, 06:44 AM | #294 |
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I was Level 52-55 when I did the League, so experience might be a bit coloured, but overall I'd say that SM has been quite the more difficult ride than pretty much any Pokémon game since, what, Platinum? It's still not particularly challenging a game, but it definitely had parts where battles got close and where I actually lost and would get brickwalled on occassion. Although that's probably in part of me only using new Pokémon, Exp. Share Off, no Z-Moves/Megas, as I did in Gen VI, doing away with all those new features and treating it as a Pokémon game of old it definitely stacks up in difficulty; it's jsut that all these new features are unbalanced and they're all in the player's favour.
Also as per Kahili (the Flying E4) yeah I guess she is a bit of a cop-out, but it's not too bad since she was namedropepd a couple times throughout the game and was mentioned to be the Trial Champion the same year Kukui and Molayne did their Trials, so to me, who expected her to be the Champ, her being an E4 wasn't all too out of order. Agreeing on the point of Hapu's grandfather being more prominent, I also kinda wished he had more of a deal in the entire thing despite being dead. |
07-04-2017, 01:38 PM | #295 |
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Yeah being level 60 for E4 is way overleveled. E4 is more challenging than XY's E4 for sure, as is the entire game up until Ula'Ula Island, but still too easy imo. Then again I haven't had trouble with E4 since DP.
>Talon's rankings SuMo is definitely better than XY at least in my honest opinion. I've played through SuMo three times and am willing to do a fourth. I started a 2nd playthrough Nuzlocke of Y a few days ago and I was only able to make it to the second gym before giving up out of boredom. XY is shameless Gen I pandering (seriously, free Kanto starters? Snorlax blocking a path? Santalune Forest being a direct ripoff of Viridian? Give the new 'mons some spotlight!) with a terrible villanous team and story, even worse characters, with horrible Gym Leaders/E4/trainers, absolutely shite pacing and a poor range of new 'mon to choose from (although SuMo is kinda guilty of that last one too, even if less so). SuMo improved upon a number of things, even if a few steps backwards were taken on others. Overall, I would say SuMo is middle of the pack in ranking, below HGSS/ORAS/Platinum.
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>adorable but shitty hawaiian petilil
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07-04-2017, 04:34 PM | #298 |
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Wishiwashi is incredible did you just, not level it over 20
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Wait, wishiwashi is meant to be shit? I always heard that it was good (I used Toxapex in my run). Also, just to have someone agree with you on this point, its defs weird to try and label xy as a genwunner title when sumo has such significant ties to kanto in comparison to getting starters that were pretty much unattainable to the newer generations.
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