Fizzytopian Regional Variant Discussion and Q&A

[Sneaze]

...just now realizing that I never officially stated that Fizzytopian Solosis is live so... it is now. Whoops.

Anyway, on to new discussion.

Originally Posted by sixdragons_in_atrenchcoat

Ferakin
The Scruffy Pokemon

Fire
Height: 1'02"
Weight: 14.9lbs
Gender Ratio: 50% Male, 50% Female
Egg Groups: Field
HP:35 ATK:50 DEF:30 SPA:60 SPD:70 SPE:62 BST: 307
Abilities: Blaze, White Smoke (Hidden)
Dex Entries: Wilder and less well-groomed than their Kalosic cousins, these Fennekin will chew on any detritus they can find to fuel the fire in their ears.

Often feeding on such things as dead leaves and bark, this Pokemon's ear fur burns with a fire that is more smoke and sparks than anything.

Move List
Level-Up Moves

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1 Scratch
1 Smokescreen
5 Ember
11 Howl
14 Bite
17 Inferno
20 Hone Claws
25 Foul Play
25 Snarl
31 Signal Beam
35 Flamethrower
38 Will-O-Wisp
41 U-Turn
43 Dark Pulse
46 Tail Glow
48 Ashes to Ashes​

EMs

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Powder, Heat Wave, Hypnosis, Silver Wind, Rage Powder, Fire Fang, Recover​

MT Moves

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Covet, Fire Pledge, Foul Play, Heat Wave, Lash Out, Dark Pulse, Skitter Smack, Snore​

TM Moves

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Agility, Attract, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Confide, Double Team, Crunch, Echoed Voice, Embargo, Encore, Endure, Facade, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Spin, Flame Charge, Flamethrower, Flare Blitz, Foul Play, Frustration, Infestation, Heat Wave, Helping Hand, Hidden Power, Fury Cutter, Knock Off, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Protect, Bug Buzz, Brutal Swing, Dark Pulse, Bug Bite, Fire Fang, Roar, Rest, Return, Round, Safeguard, Pounce, Sleep Talk, Gunk Shot, Stored Power, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swift, Take Down, Tera Blast​, Thief, Toxic, Trick, Close Combat, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up​

Evolves after learning the move Inferno into...

Braicinder
The Ash Coat Pokemon

Fire
Height: 2'09"
Weight: 27.9lbs
Gender Ratio: 50% Male, 50% Female
Egg Groups: Field
HP:49 ATK: 70 DEF: 50 SPA:65 SPD:90 SPE:85 BST:409
Abilities: Blaze, White Smoke (Hidden)
Dex Entries: Life for a wild Pokemon in the Defiled Oasis is difficult. Ferakin evolve when caught in terrible forest fires, leaving them alive but covered in ash and left to fend for themselves in scorched wastelands.

This Pokemon is always wreathed in smoke that's filled with ash. It controls this smoke to cover its prey, blinding them and making the air dangerous to breathe.

Move List
Level-Up Moves

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1 Bug Bite
1 Powder
1 Silver Wind
11 Growl
14 Flame Charge
17 Pain Split
20 Hone Claws
25 Foul Play
25 Snarl
31 Signal Beam
35 Flamethrower
38 Hypnosis
41 U-Turn
43 Dark Pulse
46 Tail Glow
48 Ashes to Ashes​

EMs

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Powder, Heat Wave, Hypnosis, Silver Wind, Rage Powder, Fire Fang, Recover

MT Moves

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Fake Out, Covet, Fire Pledge, Fire Punch, Foul Play, Heat Wave, Lash Out, Fire Lash, Low Kick, Dark Pulse, Skitter Smack, Recover, Quiver Dance, Sucker Punch, Snatch, Snore, Beat Up, Thunder Punch, Switcheroo, Taunt, Leech Life​

TM Moves

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Agility, Attract, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Confide, Double Team, Crunch, Echoed Voice, Embargo, Encore, Endure, Facade, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Punch, Fire Spin, Flame Charge, Flamethrower, Flare Blitz, Foul Play, Frustration, Infestation, Heat Wave, Helping Hand, Hidden Power, Fury Cutter, Knock Off, Low Kick, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Protect, Bug Buzz, Brutal Swing, Dark Pulse, Bug Bite, Fire Fang, Roar, Rest, Return, Round, Safeguard, Pounce, Sleep Talk, Gunk Shot, Stored Power, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swift, Take Down, Taunt, Tera Blast​, Thief, Toxic, Trick, Drain Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Evolves after learning the move Hypnosis into...

Hivox
The Ash Coat Pokemon

Fire/Bug
Height: 5'01"
Weight: 103.1lbs
Gender Ratio: 50% Male, 50% Female
Egg Groups: Field, Grass
HP:100 ATK:101 DEF:65 SPA:101 SPD:97 SPE:70 BST: 534
Abilities: Blaze, Swarm (Hidden)
Dex Entries: If you see a wild Hivox - run! These Pokemon follow raging forest fires with their swarms, making temporary homes in the ruins left behind.

Hivox uses its powerful telepathy to control swarms of fire-chasers, letting them nest in its matted, ashy coat of fur. As they trail behind large fires, the fire-chasers gather food and ash to build up the Hivox's fur into a hive.

Move List
Level-Up Moves

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0 Cotton Guard
1 Attack Order
1 Heal Order
1 Defend Order
1 Pursuit
1 Rage Powder
1 Recover
1 Pollen Puff
1 Infestation
14 Blaze Kick
17 Darkest Lariat
20 String Shot
25 Foul Play
25 Snarl
31 Signal Beam
35 X-Scissor
38 Flamethrower
41 Ashes to Ashes
43 Crunch
46 Swords Dance
48 Lunge​

EMs

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Powder, Heat Wave, Hypnosis, Silver Wind, Rage Powder, Fire Fang, Recover

MT Moves

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Fake Out, Blast Burn, Covet, Fire Pledge, Fire Punch, Foul Play, Heat Wave, Lash Out, Fire Lash, Low Kick, Dark Pulse, Skitter Smack, Recover, Quiver Dance, Night Slash, Sucker Punch, Snatch, Snore, Beat Up, Thunder Punch, Switcheroo, Taunt, Leech Life

TM Moves

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Agility, Attract, Blast Burn, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Confide, Pin Missile, Weather Ball, Double Team, Crunch, Echoed Voice, Embargo, Encore, Endure, Facade, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Punch, Fire Spin, Flame Charge, Flamethrower, Flare Blitz, Focus Blast, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Infestation, Heat Wave, Helping Hand, Hidden Power, Assurance, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Fury Cutter, Knock Off, Low Kick, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Close Combat, Overheat, Protect, Bug Buzz, Brutal Swing, Dark Pulse, Bug Bite, Fire Fang, Roar, Iron Defense, Rest, Return, Round, Safeguard, Pounce, Sleep Talk, Gunk Shot, Stored Power, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swift, Take Down, Taunt, Tera Blast​, Thief, Toxic, Trick, Drain Punch, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Ashes to Ashes, Fire-Type Move, 100BP, 90 Accuracy, Physical, 5PP
The user prepares by coating their body in ash and focusing on the suffering of their past, then unleashes a devastating strike that imbues the foe with pessimistic and depressing thoughts. This attack deals damage based on the foe's Special Defense, rather than Defense.

Please discuss.

[Sneaze]

Separate post for visibility.

This is the first winner we've had that explicitly changes the gender ratios for the line. I'm personally fine with this since we've had drastic weight changes in Snowlet, and it doesn't actually affect anything from a coding standpoint. Just bringing it up so people are aware of it in case anyone sees an actual problem.

Note: We're also still waiting on official color schemes for humpy sprites, dragons is aware of this and there's no rush on the process of it.

[Missingno. Master]

Originally Posted by Sneaze

Note: We're also still waiting on official color schemes for humpy sprites, dragons is aware of this and there's no rush on the process of it.

Sixdragons confirmed the color schemes on Discord some time ago, actually, and I made the sprites not long after.

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Shiny:

[Emi]

Gender line thing is fine. I would prefer a version of the signature move that cut out some of the flavor to keep things concise and easy to understand.

I think the only thing I have a very slight umbrage with is it evolving twice while needing different moves. Mostly just because that's a bit weird and I'm not sure either evolution method really enhances the flavor of the Pokemon.

[Prof.Enigma]

Originally Posted by Emi

Gender line thing is fine. I would prefer a version of the signature move that cut out some of the flavor to keep things concise and easy to understand.

I think the only thing I have a very slight umbrage with is it evolving twice while needing different moves. Mostly just because that's a bit weird and I'm not sure either evolution method really enhances the flavor of the Pokemon.

According to the level-up move listing this is pretty close in line with Delphox's normal levels for evolution being 17 for Inferno and 38 for Hypnosis, with Delphox originally being 36 and Braxien being 16.

So I for one have no qualms with that particular issue.

Ashes to Ashes, Fire-Type Move, 100BP, 90 Accuracy, Physical, 5PP
The user prepares by coating their body in ash and focusing on the suffering of their past, then unleashes a devastating strike that imbues the foe with pessimistic and depressing thoughts. This attack deals damage based on the foe's Special Defense, rather than Defense.

As for this, it makes me think of Psyshock. I am in slight disagreement with Emi on there needing to be flavor cut, but I'm not going to fuss as much about it if people feel its too flavorful.

[Emi]

It's more I think there should be a clearer version that's easily accessible.

[Prof.Enigma]

Originally Posted by Emi

It's more I think there should be a clearer version that's easily accessible.

To that then I'd agree, I'm pretty sure there will be once it gets coded into the bot? If not that shouldn't be too hard to handle tho

[sixdragons_in_atrenchcoat]

Ashes to Ashes, Fire-Type Move, 100BP, 90 Accuracy, Physical, 5PP
The user strikes a devastating ashen blow that imbues the opponent with pessimistic thoughts. This attack deals damage based on the foe's Special Defense instead of Defense.

Is that clearer, or should I cut it down more?

[Sneaze]

So the main issue I have with evolving via learning moves is that 38 is... late for a starter. Not hilariously so, but still late. Yes, it does make it so if you're able to learn the move sooner you can evolve sooner, but it's still a bit odd for something that is supposed to be a Fizzytopian starter.

[sixdragons_in_atrenchcoat]

Originally Posted by Sneaze

So the main issue I have with evolving via learning moves is that 38 is... late for a starter. Not hilariously so, but still late. Yes, it does make it so if you're able to learn the move sooner you can evolve sooner, but it's still a bit odd for something that is supposed to be a Fizzytopian starter.

I can swap Hypnosis's learn level to 35, or 31 if that makes more sense.

[Sneaze]

Yeah I feel like swapping 31/35/38 would be healthiest. Just bring Flamethrower to 31, Hypnosis to 35, and Signal Beam to 38. Would also make sense to just swap Flamethrower to 31 and Signal Beam to 38 after evo, and X-Scissor replacing Hypnosis upon evo makes sense there.

[sixdragons_in_atrenchcoat]

Swapping Hypnosis to Lv. 35 sounds good, but why swap Signal Beam and Flamethrower? I don't see a problem with doing it as: 31- Signal Beam, 35 - Hypnosis (X-Scissor after evo), 38 - Flamethrower. I can swap Signal Beam and Flamethrower if it's really something that needs to happen, but I'd want an explanation as to why.