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Old 02-28-2021, 09:32 AM   #1
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Cyndaquil Pokémon Legends Arceus Megathread

Kids like megathreads, right?

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Old 02-28-2021, 11:25 AM   #2
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I said this in the other thread but this is the biggest thing to hit Pokemon since Misty punching Ash.

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Not actually a case of human on Pokemon DV.
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Old 03-01-2021, 08:39 PM   #3
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This intrigues and excites me. The gameplay alone is enough to catch my attention, but what's also fun to think about is what this could do to expand upon the Pokémon world's lore. It's set in Sinnoh's past- Sinnoh, one of the most lore-heavy regions in the Pokémon world. This could expand on so many of its myths and legends, history of the region... hell, it even gives us a little peek into Poké Ball history. Those old-timey Poké Balls look pretty much just like what that NPC in Gen 2 described, right? A hollowed-out Apricorn with a special device fitted to it? The top half of that ball looks to me like it could be a Red Apricorn, with the wooden bottom half constituting part of the special device.

Also, just imagine Voltorb/Electrode regional forms based on those balls, just emitting jets of steam to propel themselves forward.

And honestly, the fact that engaging the wild Pokémon in battle before catching them seems to be wholly optional, that's already helping me shape kind of a theory about the Let's Go games and how that style of catching came to be the norm in the Mega Evolution timeline's Gen 1, but not the non-Mega timeline's Gen 1. My take on it is, this is when Pokémon training was pretty much brand new, yeah? I'm thinking in the Mega Evolution timeline, Mega Evolution was a thing, but not much was known about it, and so it'd end up inadvertently misused, and battles against wild Pokémon would get too grisly, and so for a while, battling wild Pokémon had something of a negative stigma, and was reserved for emergencies, such as, let's say, a Snorlax that just woke up and is mistaking you for food, and that mindset would still have been in place in Gen 1's era as a result. But, in the non-Mega timeline, no such stigma came to be because Mega Evolution wasn't a thing to be inadvertently misused, so wild battles came to be seen as the objectively better way of doing things. Well, maybe not completely- after all, every Safari Zone that has a Safari Game is in the non-Mega timeline, so I'm thinking those places could've been run by people whose ancestors were more in favor of the non-battling ways, and thus founded Safari Zones as a way to keep their favored mindset alive and well. Meanwhile, in the Mega Evolution timelines, it seems that after the events of Let's Go, battling wild Pokémon appears to have shed its negative stigma. Now, granted, Gens 1 and 3 were always said to take place simultaneously, but then again, we already know the Mega Evolution timeline screwed up the order of some events, since Red and Blue had their adventures in the Mega Evolution timeline before the events of Gen 1... Gah, I know I'm overthinking this by a lot, but damn if it isn't fun as hell!
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Old 03-01-2021, 08:47 PM   #4
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I can't wait to marry my Gardevoir*.

That feel when the final twist in the story is you and Gardevoir are Cynthia's great grandparents.

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*I prefer Tsareena, but Tsareena's aren't native to Sinnoh.


On the subject of native species another cool thing is the Rowlet and Cyndaquil lines in Sinnoh's past. Does that mean they went locally extinct in the hundredish years before DPP?
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Old 03-01-2021, 11:12 PM   #5
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It's made clear that the starter trio was brought over by a professor who came across them in his travels to other regions. Pretty sure they won't be considered native to Sinnoh even in this time period.
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I’m hoping that Chimchar, Piplup and Turtwig can be encountered in the wild.
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:53 PM   #7
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Basculegion is best ghost.

That is all.
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Old 08-19-2021, 02:11 AM   #8
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Huh? Did we get new info?
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Old 08-19-2021, 05:14 AM   #9
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Yeah, new trailer yesterday. New Pokémon and forms revealed. Regional forms of Growlithe and Braviary, and evolutions for Stantler and Basculin.
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It looks like there's a possible

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Old 08-19-2021, 01:26 PM   #11
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this game is actually looking kind of cool and I really hope it doesn't disappoint
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Old 08-19-2021, 07:58 PM   #12
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Those new forms are for Arceus and not BDSP right? Are the extinct in the main Pokemon timeline?
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They're for Legends: Arceus, yeah. As to whether they're extinct in the present day, that remains to be seen. But if the fossil mons have taught us anything, it's that nothing is truly extinct in the world of Pokémon.
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Old 08-23-2021, 01:16 PM   #14
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They're for Legends: Arceus, yeah. As to whether they're extinct in the present day, that remains to be seen. But if the fossil mons have taught us anything, it's that nothing is truly extinct in the world of Pokémon.
also they said that there'd be HOME support for Legends Arceus so my guess is that they're not really extinct since you'll presumably be able to battle with them in gen 8
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I mean even if they were somehow extinct in the modern era, the Pokemon World has had time machines since GSC, so it's not entirely unreasonable to still be able to get ahold of them that way. Though that's assuming that GameFreak even remembers that old thing in the first place...
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What's this about the Hisui Region?

I thought it took place in ancient Sinnoh?
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What's this about the Hisui Region?

I thought it took place in ancient Sinnoh?
It does. Just, Sinnoh wasn't always called Sinnoh. Was honestly not aware that Jubilife got its current-day name before Sinnoh did, and yet, here we are.
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It looks to me like what the English localizers are going for is to make "Hisui Region" way more obviously Japanese, what with the names for the PCs being "Akari" and "Rei". Modern Sinnoh is what you get after all the white people have moved in, and you have the surreal experience of a native named region with a bunch of non-native people living in it. I went through that living in Minnesota!

Jubilife in Japanese is "Kotobuki", so I think the surreal part is they're keeping the English localized name despite the rest of the region trying to lean heavily into the Japanese accent. It would be like a random settlement in the Iroquois League being called Queens.
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Whew. Those designs.
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Whew. Those designs.
...I'm assuming you don't like them? I like new Zorua and Zoroark personally and I think Normal/Ghost is a dope typing but that's just me
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NO, the Team Galactic designs...not.

Yeah, the Zorua/Zoroark are particularly awful. Even more busy and cartoonish than the original designs. They're Pokemon from Conker's Bad Fur Day that, in drunken confusion, drank bleach instead of beer.

I think this is a consequence of GF's design culture. Artists are forced to sign NDA's and binding agreements to not look at any fanart when it comes to their designs, so Nintendo has no possibility of being sued for plagiarism by a fanartist. And as a result Pokemon designs can veer into weird territory. I guarantee no fanartist, not even a bad one, would ever come up with designs like those.

I guess I also have issue with the idea that "Hisui" had so many regional variants that just don't exist in the present. It's breaking disbelief for me now. Maybe if GF was clever enough to require a time capsule or Celebi/Arceus/Dialga event to get them, since they're extinct in the present. But we'd probably see something like that by now in the trailer and prerelease material.
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