04-11-2013, 07:19 AM | #1 |
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Pokémon Movies - Which is your favourite?
So I was watching Power of One about a week ago. I have fond memories of it for a number of reasons including my affection for the Kanto birds, my memories of Charizard kicking butt and recollection of going to see the film with my parents and brother and then sitting at the back of some meeting my parents were attending later on and discussing it with my brother like crazed fan children. On rewatching it, sadly, I have decided that it is an incredibly bad film. I actually turned it off about 2/3 of the way through becuase it is just so mediocre, and not even in an entertaining kind of "this film is so bad it's good" kind of way. Like, This Means War was a pretty crappy film, but it's entertaining anyway (also Reese Witherspoon is fine). But this was just... crap.
Now, I like Mewtwo Strikes Back. That film is pretty good, and minus the whole magic pokémon tears thing makes a good amount of sense. I remember that my Dad took us to see it and fell asleep, but I still think it's great. So I was wondering if this is just because they're kids movies and I'm now 22, or if it's just thta pokémon movies are like Star Trek movies; some are great, some are not. My real question is this: which pokémon movie is your favourite? If you pick anything subsequent to Movie... 3? Best to summarise why, as I have probably not seen it! Are pokémon films any good nowadays? Specials and Shorts are included in the question! |
04-11-2013, 09:19 AM | #2 |
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Movies I have watched all the way through: Mewtwo Strikes Back, Power of One, Spell of the Unown, Jirachi: Wish Maker, Destiny Deoxys, Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea, The Rise of Darkrai, Giratina and the Sky Warrior. Also Mewtwo Returns.
Fave is probably Mewtwo Strikes Back because of the reasons you said. It was just so awesome to go to a cinema and watch a Pokémon movie, especially since I was 11 at the time and my mum had no clue what was going on. The Advance Generation movies were... ok but not brilliant. DP ones were alright too, though I never saw the Arceus one which was the culmination of a three-movie plot arc. Made me like Darkrai and Giratina a lot more though. |
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Of the ones I can recall having seen, I guess I'd rank them ...
The one with Lucario and Sir Aaron > the one with Latias = the OAV where Mewtwo is shown for a second time > the one with Papa Entei > the one with Lugia > the one with Mewtwo and Mew That stated, I feel today that all of the Pokémon films are pretty bad compared against a) other films in general and b) the anime's best moments. As a teen, it got to the point that after the third film came out, I no longer wanted to see the next film (still haven't seen #4 with Celebi! ) and began wanting to write the films off as non-canon fanfics. (Which is kind of funny considering that, to this day, I am even more bothered by the fact that the Pokémon Ash met in the early films, like Articuno, Lugia, and Entei, he then acted like he'd never seen before when they made their TV debuts.)
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04-11-2013, 09:34 AM | #4 |
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>Canon status
Yeah the anime's really inconsistant with that. Ash and James recognised Lugia during Johto and Ash recognised Latios during the Sinnoh League but then he saw Dialga and Palkia over the course of three movies and didn't know them in the anime. Upcoming movie spoilers: Spoiler: show |
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I just watched the Johto episode with Lugia two years or so ago and Ash certainly didn't remember it. So I felt, anyway. So I looked it up on Bulbapedia just now and ...
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04-11-2013, 09:54 AM | #6 |
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Yeah the only episode I've watched raw is the Porygon one, for obvious reasons. Fair point.
I wish they'd be more consistent though. Ash has had further experiences with Aura since the Lucario movie, and both the Mewtwo and Genesect movies have leadups in the anime. |
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Has he? I don't recall aura showing up again in the Sinnoh (mostly final season) or Unova (all) episodes I watched. Unless you're referring to his experience with Azelf in Sinnoh? (Was that the Lucario film's aura thing again? I must've missed that.)
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My favorite Pokemon movie is Power of One, followed by Mewtwo Strikes Back. I've seen either large chunks or bits and pieces of the other movies, and they all seemed pretty shitty.
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04-11-2013, 11:38 AM | #9 |
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The problem is, all the Pokemon movies I've seen (Power of One, Mewtwo Strikes Back, the Entei one) I saw when I was like 7 - 10 years old and have not seen them since, so I think they are excellent.
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I would advise you to stick to that policy, Tdos.
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Isn't the Celebii one the one where Professor Oak sees a load of Johto pokémon and then has a seizure and forgets them all?
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04-11-2013, 01:06 PM | #13 |
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Great, now I have to rewatch all the movies and rank them. Watch this space as I'll probably do this over the course of the next ~week or so. If I don't I got distracted, happens all the time.
Edit: And now I begin my watching and rating, with my thoughts on each movie spoilered. Unfortunately I'm going to have to take off my nostalgia goggles as I do so. Mewtwo Strikes Back - 6/10 Spoiler: show The Power of One - 9/10 Spoiler: show Spell of the Unown - 9/10 Spoiler: show Last edited by Sneaze; 04-18-2013 at 05:16 PM. |
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I've watched Mewtwo Strikes Back, The Power of One, Spell of the Unown, Pokemon 4ever, Pokemon Heroes, Jirachi Wishmaker, Destiny Deoxys, Pokemon Ranger and the temple of the sea, Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, Rise of Darkrai, Giratina and the Sky Warrior, and Arceus and the Jewel of life. Also Mewtwo Returns which technically isn't a movie but should totally count. Maybe others that I've forgotten.
Um. My favorite? Ehhhhhh. Probably Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, though I might be biased because I absolutely love that specific crystalline blue and they slathered it EVERYWHERE in that movie. Pokemon 4ever and Heroes probably tie for a distant second place, and Power of One will always have a special place in my heart. Actually wait. Rise of Darkrai had its moments, too. Er. Favorite: Lucario and the Mystery of Mew Silver: Heroes Bronze: 4ever Special mention for most-frequently-quoted-lines: Power of One Special mention for ship-causing-fangirl-squee: Rise of Darkrai |
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When the movie first came out, I used to fucking love this song from the second movie. It's still pretty good, so give it a listen if you haven't heard it in years. (You know the one I'm talking about ... ;p) Nothing I'd go listening to over and over again like I did back then, but ... it's pretty good. I wonder if it'll show up in the second UPN game.
Oh God. >_< This takes me back in the worst possible way. What was with 4Kids' obsession with crappy hip hop and pop artists? Oh no ... OH NO! ... LOU BEGA. xfd; Okay, okay, back on topic. (OH GOD, THAT MISTY SONG >_< ... okay, seriously, back on topic. ) Oh man. This trailer isn't anything near the level of art we've come to expect of modern cinema trailers, but I can only imagine how excited every single kid in the theater got seeing this for the first time. Especially since, back then, this was likely the first they ever heard of a Pokémon film. The Japanese trailer sure is bizarre though. O_o It's themed around the one soft-spoken ending theme song (3 or 4, I forget which) with the ferris wheel of Pokémon. And who are all these humans? I don't remember any of these three girls! WHAT THE HECK IS THIS!? DID THEY GET THEIR OWN SHORT IN JAPAN!? O_o I have never seen this footage before. hahahahaha Some little girl gets a kiss from a wild Pikachu? "Pikachu's Summer Vacation", it says. But ... wasn't that the name of our short!? The one with Marill? What the hell!? Is this made-for-trailer footage that never got turned into an actual product?
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The girl on the left seems familiar, but...?
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I've only seen Mewtwo Strikes Back and Power of One. Of the two, Mewtwo Strikes Back is clearly the superior film. I mean come on. It has Mewtwo.
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I've seen all the movies up to the Zekrom/Reshiram movie, and my favorites are the second one (because Lugia) and movies 4-7, which I have on one DVD.
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So out of the ones I've seen it goes:
1. Mewtwo Strikes Back: Probably the most exciting back when I was a kid, but I wouldn't want to rewatch it 2. Lucario and the Mystery of Mew: I think this is objectively the best film. The animation is top-notch and so is the story. 3. Spell of Unown: I watched the hell out of this on VHS although in hindsight the story is kind of sucky. 4. Destiny Deoxys: I loved that Vancouver-based city it was set in, as well as the Antarctica scene. As Kaine mentioned, any scene with Rayquaza fighting Deoxys was epic. 5. Manaphy and the Temple of the Sea: I kind of felt the story was a bit dull but as a water-type lover all the ocean scenes saved this for me. 6. Jirachi: Wishmaker: The plot for this wasn't great, but Hoenn is probably my favourite region so it's got that. 7. Arceus Movie: With the god of Pokémon as the main star the plot should have been so much better. I did like the villian in this much better than any of the earlier ones. 8. The rise of Darkrai: The story felt repetative and watching two Pokémon fight for the best part of an hour while Ash and co stand on helplessly is not fun. 9. Power of One: See my last sentence above. Even as a kid I didn't really like this film. The Orange Islands was never that great for me cause I was a huge fan of the games over the anime. I tried to watch Pokémon 4ever for the first time recently but without nostalgia goggles I couldn't really get over the bad plot and early 2000's animation. I also tried to watch the Zoroark movie but couldn't get into that either. Therefore I think the best era for Pokémon movies was advanced generation.
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>Belatedly realizes that he lives in the city Rayquaza terrorized
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Yeah the Kyurem movie came out a few months ago. I did a reaction thread to it, and it really wasn't too bad. Certainly not as good as the ones from when I was a little kid, however. For me, my favorite is a tie between Mewtwo Strikes Back and Destiny Deoxys. Both were solid plots with awesome and memorable battles.
EDIT: I've seen all of them except for the Zoroark movie, and the double release Black and White movies.
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I laughed pretty hard reading this again. Kyurem using Flamethrower was the best. My favorite Pokemon movie has to be Destiny Deoxys, because of the pretty nice animation(for its time anyways.), the great Deoxys versus Rayquaza battles(QUINTUPLE FIRE HYPER BEAM!!!!!!!), and the kickass Metagross.
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