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I've not really dived into All-New All-Different Marvel much. I did read All-New Wolverine, which was an interesting first arc. Seeing X-23 take up the mantle is a decent way to continue the name recognition without actually having Wolverine (a Fox owned movie IP) around.
I do follow the criticism that All-New All-Different isn't that much of a fresh reboot starting point as some might have thought it would become. To understand all these new stories, we still need to read all the older stories. It's just now Secret Wars has simply combined the favorites of each multiverse into a single universe. Has anyone read anything from DC Rebirth? |
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However, at the same time, it might still be a fresh starting-point reboot. Starting in medias res is not a new storytelling technique, and reveals of character backgrounds could reboot the complicated, convoluted storylines that already exist (a la X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which put a new spin on the old lore of where Wolverine came from and including characters that were more fresh and interesting than before).
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The general points to reboot is to make entry easier for new readers. None of that happens with All-New All-Different. It's really more All-Same All-Old with relation to how new readers would still need to learn the history and plot points of the past few years of Marvel to really get into these new titles.
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I'm surprised nobody has as of yet brought up the official trailer for the Justice League movie that is apparently to come out next year.
Spoiler: show Because when the world screams "That move was terrible!" Hollywood shouts back "Yeah, we're still going to make the sequel, though." |
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Spoiler: show Also mentioned a theory I have here.
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08-08-2016, 11:13 PM | #231 |
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Supefriends, the reference you made, is where stupid Aquaman came from. DC has worked rather hard over the years to try and get rid of that image, but Aquaman has had a lot less exposure than Batman, who was for a time considered silly and campy thanks to the Adam West series. Batman has had Tim Burton, BTAS, JL/JLU, and Christopher Nolan films to showcase him. Aquaman has had.... uh.... a handful of guest appearances and no movies centered on him.
Anyone who reads the comics knows Aquaman is almost at Superman/Wonder Woman tier strength levels, commands an army of Atlanteans, commands aquatic life, and has a magical trident that can hurt the invulnerable Superman. |
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I like oversexualized Aquaman It's so rare that we get actual hunks in movies aimed at men.
The Batman in this JL looks fucking stupid though. I really don't think it's possible to make that costume look good in a live-action movie.
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Spoiler: show @Shuckle I don't like Batman's DCEU costume design either, but meh. I like Affleck's Bruce Wayne a lot better as a character here than in the Nolan films.
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08-09-2016, 12:28 AM | #234 |
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I'm sure Family Guy helped push the useless Superfriends Aquaman.
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Don't forget South Park's Seaman.
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Tbf I think I remember both those eps. I hope the movie does help to improve his image then. ...Or at least we get some new memes out of it. *shot*
Speaking of which, has anyone seen HISHE for BvS? Spoiler: show
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Thought I might just share this here:
Spoiler: show My friend and I went to a con this weekend and we decorated cookies. ;O
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Small collection of sassy Batman quotes from various TV series and/or movies. I enjoyed it. Most of these are old (to me), but one or two were new (to me). Thought I'd share.
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For what it's worth, I've immensely enjoyed DC's major event Dark Nights: Metal thus far. It's done a really good job of tying together loose threads from previous events (though it occasionally reeks of retcon, but that be how it be sometimes). Plus, it's a lot of fun. I mean a lot of fun.
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Apparently the Justice League movie reviews came out and they make the movie sound awful. RIP DC Cinematic Universe.
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So I haven't seen it yet, but I've had some friends who did watch it and say that it wasn't as awful as the reviews made it seem. I will say that the film has two different tones that clash and it's very obvious which scenes were done by Zack Snyder and which were done by Joss Whedon based on tone and style. Which is weird because people would say they liked DC movies for their dark tone that Snyder pushed for, but now people generally like the films more now that they have a more Marvel tone that Joss Whedon set in the early waves of films.
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"I don't... not like [you]." Seriously though, I enjoyed it. It was fun. I like the characters and how they played off each other. Even the pacing within the film bw their backstories seemed fine, which is what I was most worried about after how bloated/badly edited BvS and SS were. I just wish they weren't rushing the plot overall to try and catch up with Marvel. Although was I the only one expecting... Spoiler: show That said, I'm glad I watched Man of Steel (for the first time, along with X-Men: Origins) right before I went to see it, since it helped fill in some of the thematic continuity. Having finally seen MoS, I'm not sure I get all the DCEU Superman hate either. The movie was a bit boring in the middle, but I liked the beginning and the end. (Yes, even/especially the controversial parts - regarding the conclusion at least.) I still have faith in the DCEU. If there's one thing it's doing right, it's the characters and their interactions. I'm curious to see where they go with these iterations. They hit a goldmine with Wonder Woman so I don't expect them to give up easily after that. And while JL might not be nearly as great, I would say it's "good". Their best/most decent effort after WW at least (in comparison to BvS and SS, which I suppose isn't saying much), and a step in the right direction. Honestly it just made me happy to see whole gang kicking butt together and having a grand time doing it. What can I say, I love superheroes now. <3
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I thought the movie was really good. I have a couple of issues with the story but overall I thoroughly enjoyed it. Makes me have a sliver of hope for the DC cinematic universe (although I prefer the tv version of Barry Allen and they will not even come close to making a better Green Arrow than Stephen Amell)
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Batman's Bizarre Adventure.
I wish they'd picked a more obscure hero so I could say "this is the greatest thing to happen to [said hero]".
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I honestly don't know what to make of this. It looks both hilarious and amazing. (I just wish the animation weren't CG though...) P.S. Check out Jason's pothead: Spoiler: show
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Honestly, it's a Pacific Rim level epic "this is the coolest" or "this is the dumbest" Batman story ever.
Spoiler: show Problem with DC Heroes A fairly good analysis of DC heroes have been poorly represented in film adaptation compared the comic versions as well as the Justice League cartoon. |
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Spoiler: show While the Superman we see in JL may be somewhat at odds with the character portrayed in MoS and BvS, I believe it's a step in the right direction for brighter moments such as these. His philosophy according to Cavill is very much in line with Wonder Woman's thematically (heck I just wrote a fic drawing upon those parallels based on the opening scene *shot*), and I'm looking forward to the DCEU carrying on those hopeful tones. I think all the characters are likeable/interesting (not just Diana), and when they come together in JL it does work as a team dynamic. They may not be exactily like their comics counterparts, but that's part of the fun of adaptations/alternate universes since you can explore different possibilities. (That Kill Bill quote though is seriously WTF.) On a semi-related note, thought I might share this as well since I was talking to Talon about it the other day: The plot actually sounds really intriguing and heartbreaking IMO (if even more controversial for obvious reasons). I was on the edge of my seat just listening to the synopsis wondering what was going to happen next, and while I was fully onboard up until the ending, I think it could work if done right. *cough* Speaking of heartbreaking, anyone still follow JL8?
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What's wrong with the Kill Bill quote? It was accurate...for Golden Age Superman. I kind of agree with the premise though that Bill's rant probably influenced people to think that Superman should act coldly condescending, leading to the serious portrayal of Cavill's. Christopher Reeve's Superman was a little playful. Brandon Routh's less so, but he also came not long after KB v.2.
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