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Old 05-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #2026
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But in this case Meta healed it via Leftovers and Mienshao took LO damage.
He's still scouting. Scouting may not be worth a 50% reduction to damage output from a burn nor a 75% reduction in speed from paralysis, but it's often worth 10% of your life. Add in the fact that Mienshao usually has the Regenerator ability and it's a calculated risk of almost entirely benefits. (The only way the Fake Out Life Orb Regenerator loses is if he chooses to stay out and fight anyway -- and if his opponent does too and manages to pseudo-OHKO him thanks to Life Orb's recoil damage the previous turn.)
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Old 05-09-2014, 03:39 PM   #2027
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Breloom does all

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Old 05-09-2014, 04:13 PM   #2028
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Breloom<3 I love Breloom simply because no one expects a Mega kick these days, and it is very capable of using it, and has Poison heal to boot. Add its variety of useful fighting moves, whether you are cautious enough to have a screen buster or no, and Thunderpunch for the annoying Drifblims and other ghosts.
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Old 05-09-2014, 05:58 PM   #2029
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What does Mega Kick do that STABs + Rock Tomb don't do?
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:34 PM   #2030
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Unpredictability. Your logic is exactly what makes it a secret weapon that forces a switch to a ghost for many, but then I just bust out Thunderpunch.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:03 PM   #2031
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If you're using Poison Heal, then surely you must be using Toxic Orb. Given this, wouldn't Facade be categorically better than Mega Kick? 25% more accuracy, 20 effective more base power, 24 more PP at maximum, same type.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:33 PM   #2032
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Can I just mention how much I hate Talonflame paired with a good spinner?
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:28 AM   #2033
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Can I just mention how much I hate Talonflame paired with a good spinner?
Use Geodude. Seriously, it OHKOes with Stone Edge, and Talonflame can only muster a 3HKO with Brave bird.

In all honesty though, use Rotom, Zapdos, or any rock type (minus Terrakion) to beat the bird.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:37 AM   #2034
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Yes, use me Talonflame cannot touch rock types, and rock type SR-ers are everywhere. Depending on the spinner, its not hard to deal with.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:56 AM   #2035
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Pretty hard to find room for a good Talonflame counter on my team, but eh it's fine for now. Goddamn priority Roost.
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Old 05-10-2014, 10:44 AM   #2036
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Gotta love EQ, amirite?
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:27 AM   #2037
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Trying out a non-Platinum OU Team

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So, I decided that it may be worth my while to make a real OU team and put it to the test. Out of these pokemon, I've only used Togekiss before, so it was completely new for me ^_^

At first I was horrible. I didn't really know what each could do and floundered about. Now I'm pretty confident in using Espeon and the Ferro/Jelli wall. Landorus-T is a great starter as he can deal a truck-ton of damage if necessary. On Lucario I have a Choice Band which is a fairly unorthodox item, but it works well enough.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:34 AM   #2038
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Hey red, do you mind posting the team for us to tear apart give critique on? I'm not sure I get why you are using Iron Tail on Lucario. :<
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:38 AM   #2039
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Jellicent @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Scald
- Recover
- Shadow Ball
- Ice Beam

Landorus-Therian (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Power Whip
- Protect

Lucario @ Choice Band
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Crunch
- Close Combat
- Iron Tail
- Extreme Speed

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 140 SAtk / 252 HP / 116 SDef
Modest Nature
- Flamethrower
- Dazzling Gleam
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere

Espeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Dazzling Gleam
- Psyshock
- Heal Bell
- Shadow Ball


Lando-T is the lead.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:38 AM   #2040
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Why are you playing Megaless?

Also man OU is a slow meta.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:39 AM   #2041
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Lucarionite is banned pretty sure. I tried using it and PS wouldn't let me.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:43 AM   #2042
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Suggestions!

-Jellicent

You might want to include some sort of status on her. Jellicent isn't terribly powerful without investment. I'd recommend either dropping Shadow Ball or Ice Beam for Toxic or WoW.

Ferro: No point to Protect is you aren't running Leech Seed. Sub it out for either Leech Seed, Gryo Ball, or Spikes.

-Lucario
Sub out Iron Tail for Ice Punch ASAP. Otherwise you are going to struggle against Gliscor and other Lando-T.

-Toge
Drop Dazzling Gleam for either Thunder Wave or Roost. The coverage is pretty redundant on your set.

Espeon seems fine, I really can't see how you would improve the set.

>Megaless

His team is good enough that he won't need a Mega evo.

>OU is such a slow meta

No his opponent is just stupid. OU is very high-paced.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:45 AM   #2043
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Jellicent should have some sort of SP. Attack investment maybe. And get Ice Punch on Luca
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:50 AM   #2044
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-Jellicent

You might want to include some sort of status on her. Jellicent isn't terribly powerful without investment. I'd recommend either dropping Shadow Ball or Ice Beam for Toxic or WoW.

Ferro: No point to Protect is you aren't running Leech Seed. Sub it out for either Leech Seed, Gryo Ball, or Spikes.

-Lucario
Sub out Iron Tail for Ice Punch ASAP. Otherwise you are going to struggle against Gliscor and other Lando-T.

-Toge
Drop Dazzling Gleam for either Thunder Wave or Roost. The coverage is pretty redundant on your set.

Espeon seems fine, I really can't see how you would improve the set.

>Megaless

His team is good enough that he won't need a Mega evo.

>OU is such a slow meta

No his opponent is just stupid. OU is very high-paced.
I'll just lay out my reasons:

>Jelli

I suppose dropping Shadow Ball wouldn't be bad. All three are there so I can check Psychics/Ghosts/Fires and without Ice Beam I can't push through Gliscor so I guess Shadow Ball would be the one to drop.

>Ferro

Protect is mainly there to stall out the turns for Sun because damn if Charizard-Y isn't everywhere. But I see your point on that.

>Luke

I'm hesitant on this. Iron Tail has proven quite helpful, and without it I can do fuck-all to Fairies. And with CB any Landos or Gliscors switching in take their fair share of damage.

>Toge

Fair. The Dazzling Gleam is mainly there for Lati@s and other Dragons, but she'd definitely like Roost.
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:53 AM   #2045
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Protect is good for scouting
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:12 PM   #2046
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Or if you have dedent special investment in Lucario, Flash Cannon does wonders. Sometimes using MegaLuca against my friends, they use MegaGardevoir and Flash Cannon just does the BOOM HEADSHOT. It's so much fun.
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Mixed Lucario is a bad idea.
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #2048
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Never said it was mixed, did I? heck, I only keep bone rush around so that it doesnt bug me that I have NO Fire coverage. Mine is much more special than anything.
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #2049
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Old 05-10-2014, 12:18 PM   #2050
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Bullet Punch is an option over Iron Tail on Luke. I'm not 100% sure if he gets Iron Head, but if he does, Iron Head>Iron Tail.
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