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Old 08-13-2013, 01:27 AM   #226
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Two additional speculative comments on the female intelligent Titan plus a third comment that's tangentially related:

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Furthermore, assuming the Titan is Annie, I'm disappointed that she seems to have mastered handling her Titan form so quickly -- she can't have been a Titan for more than two weeks since we last saw her -- yet Eren is still trying to learn how to take very basic control of his Titan form. C'mon, man. Why should Annie be so gifted at this? There'd better be some explanation, otherwise it just feels like a dumb plot hole.
Unless
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Eren was not the first human-Titan and there are others who have had way more time doing their thing. Do we even know how old Titans are? Judging from everything else so far, there's no clear estimate of how long a single Titan can live - or if they don't age and only die when killed.

...okay the author better not go for a plot twist of Titans being The Old Ones/Original Humans/Next Step In Evolution. Or maybe he will?
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:48 AM   #227
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Christa did not just pop out from nowhere. She was part of the 104th trainee squad (top ten) and apparently, according to the wikia, the anime showed that. She was shown feeding Sasha bread n'stuff, and she was in various random scenes. Perhaps she just had little presence?

Hope that helped clear up stuff.


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Thought this was funny: The official Denny's twitter tweeted this this morning

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That platter looks so bad. ^^; But that is pretty funny that someone in control of Denny's Twitter account posted this.
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:11 PM   #230
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So am I to understand that Denny's offers you plastic eggs and raw...whatever the rest of that plate is? Damn those guys need a new advertising company.
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So am I to understand that Denny's offers you plastic eggs and raw...whatever the rest of that plate is? Damn those guys need a new advertising company.
The large white and brown mass you see on the right is this:
  • take a peeled potato
  • grate it across a grater
  • and lightly fry the grated potato slivers
I think they call theirs a hashbrown, and it probably is a country-style hashbrown, but to most of us hashbrown is more of an encased shredded potato, like what you find at McDonald's or what you see here on the top-right of this Wikipedia article. Also, Denny's are white. So, so white. Like ... this right here is more what I picture for homemade hashbrown.
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Old 08-18-2013, 01:43 PM   #232
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Episode 19:

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It's too bad that more episodes aren't as good as this one.

It's also too bad that this episode couldn't shake its predecessors' bad habit of not advancing the plot any farther forward than a couple of inches.

Going to be pissed if the female giant ends up somehow breaking free or self-destructing. C'mon, boys! Drag {suspect} out of there!

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Episode 20:

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It's too bad that more episodes aren't as good as this one.

It's also too bad that this episode couldn't shake its predecessors' bad habit of not advancing the plot any farther forward than a couple of inches.

Going to be pissed if the female giant ends up somehow breaking free or self-destructing. C'mon, boys! Drag {suspect} out of there!
Wha? The episode I watched this morning was Episode 19. Either my episode was numbered wrong or you've got a source that brings you episodes from the future.
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Lost track. 19. Anyway, you had no other comments to make than that? Poor Shingeki no Kyojin!
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Old 08-18-2013, 04:19 PM   #235
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Lost track. 19. Anyway, you had no other comments to make than that? Poor Shingeki no Kyojin!
I'll admit that the show is proceeding excruciatingly slowly. They're starting to close in on where the manga is currently at I believe, so it's going to be one of those anime-before-manga-is-finished disappointing endings.

So the episode itself...
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I'm liking Eren less and less by the episode. I know it's a thing in shonen series that the MC does a better job by never listening to their superiors, but...GOOD LORD EREN. Does the phrase "on a need-to-know basis" mean absolutely nothing to you?! "Nope, I'll start arguing with the squad that's got way more experience than I do and that's there to protect me with their lives! Screw the plan that was developed for this mission by people smarter and more capable than me! I HAS TITAN POWERZ!"

Just... No. Eren. Cut it out right now. If you actually knew better than Team Levi, we wouldn't have needed Levi to tell you about there being no chance in hell that this operation would happen with no casualties ("WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF MILITARY OPERATIONS! WILL YOU POTENTIALLY GET HURT? NO SHIT YOU WILL, SON! "). We wouldn't have needed an episode with everyone telling you to believe and trust in your flipping team - ending with the success of the series as far as we can tell. You are perhaps one of the biggest threats to the survival of mankind right after the Titans as far as I can tell!

Yeeeah Eren could go walk off a cliff for all I care.
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Episode 20:

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Going to be pissed if the female giant ends up somehow breaking free or self-destructing. C'mon, boys! Drag {suspect} out of there!
The episode was surprisingly exciting throughout, including the giant's self-induced annihilation scene. But man if I was not disappointed by the fact that we didn't get to find out yet who the giant is. It's felt obvious for weeks now and still we don't officially know. C'mon, Shingeki no Kyojin. Quit stalling and let's see who she is!

Elwin's choice of words towards the end -- "and now she's wearing one of our uniforms" or some such -- all but gives away that the culprit isn't a Legionnaire, something which fits nicely with who we think it is.

If the culprit is who I think she is, I'm rather disappointed in the story for having her perform so masterfully with her Spider-Man cables. Yes, yes, she's supposedly close to Mikasa's level, but that doesn't change the fact that it's dumb that she was able to murder one of Eren's escorts.

Hoping this arc ends next week, or that at the very least we get to see Levi defeating her and her identity revealed. Very much doubt I'll get the former, but optimistic I'll at least get the latter.

Disappointed that Sasha's been reduced to a cowering wreck 10x more cowardly than Armin was when we saw the Battle of Trost. Hoping she isn't like this for the remainder of her stay.

Liked Jean figuring out Elwin's plan with such little information. Disliked Jean failing to see what Armin saw in the wisdom of Elwin's difficult choice. I guess "You win some, you lose some" applies here. ;p

Dislike that the culprit managed to free herself from her giant body without anyone seeing her do it. Oh come on.

The more I enjoy these latest episodes, the more I know my ragequit down the line is going to hurt. ^^; But I press on!
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:45 PM   #238
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I'll admit that the show is proceeding excruciatingly slowly. They're starting to close in on where the manga is currently at I believe, so it's going to be one of those anime-before-manga-is-finished disappointing endings.
It really isn't. They have quite a bit of material left before they're caught up, at least the rest of the 6 episodes of this season and maybe another 10 or so for a second season (so far). I don't see a season two coming until this time next year at least, but it's true, with SnK only releasing one chapter a month, they will inevitably catch up, even with year long breaks (assuming this is what they do).


Also, Muyo, that's ridiculous. You're ridiculous. Silly goose.
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It really isn't. They have quite a bit of material left before they're caught up, at least the rest of the 6 episodes of this season and maybe another 10 or so for a second season (so far).
And despite this, they start episode 21 off with almost five minutes of "happened so far" + OP. Sorry, I'm just superbly annoyed that Dangan Ronpa is 13 episodes long while it could easily have been 26 episodes with the Free Time events included - while SnK gets 26 episodes, of which it's using about five's worth on bloody recapping.

Now then. Episode 21, where stuff actually happens after the 5 minutes of recap!

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Levi's squad is pretty much a goner with only...Levi left after the Female Titan turns to the Titan form again. We get a good five minute's worth of speech on "IF EREN HAD TRANSFORMED TO BEGIN WITH SO MANY WOULD HAVE SURVIVED" - because this is a shonen show and the MC needs to always be right about everything.

Also, TITAN VS. TITAN FIST FIGHT. Proper action! Although Eren gets some really damn creepy movement in the middle of it and his head punched off.

Literally.

So it's time for Mikasa to actually be useful after a long, long time of nothing! Although it's another rage/angst-induced attack and this time Levi has to rescue her. I'm pretty sure this is a pattern of behavior for her.

If the previous episodes are indicative of anything, it's that next episode we'll see Levi and Mikasa talk a lot and the episode will end once they actually reach the Titan. I won't even pretend I'm not tempted to wait until the rest of the season has aired and I can watch them all in one go while skipping all the recapping.
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If there's one thing I hate, hate, hate about most shounen manga and anime, it's that they celebrate this ass-backwards notion of veterans / adults getting pwned but amateurs / children kicking ass. I'm so, so sick and tired of this shit. Shingeki no Kyojin decides to lather it on thick this week by having the entire Levi Squad taken out by the female giant (except for Levi himself since he conveniently split off from the team two episodes ago) but somehow a) Eren holds his own in a fight against her once he becomes a Titan and b) Mikasa holds her own against the female titan even though she's just a rookie Legionnaire. OH COME ON, PEOPLE! I want to like Mikasa too but the series is just doing a terrible job of allowing me to. Before, she was obnoxiously Miss Too Perfect, and now, she's still doing a ridiculously good job (even if not a perfect one) where tons of her seniors have not only failed but have lost their lives. Cooooooome ooooooooon!

I realize that the fight Eren had with the female titan was meant to represent his "making the right choice" finally, but I honestly was really impressed with his original right choice. I thought it took a lot of balls for an author in this day and age to argue that the right choice was the military one, i.e. that sometimes you just don't question your C.O.'s orders and you follow them on faith. It's an incredibly unpopular way of thinking in this day and age, one where we celebrate the individual and doing what you think is right, and I'm very much in that camp myself, usually! But that doesn't mean that I fail to appreciate it when the other side represents themselves well. That's what I thought the author was doing with the scene several episodes ago where he had Eren trusting in the team, much to Petra's and the others' delight and comfort. That was one of the better scenes Shingeki no Kyojin has had up through this point, but the latest episode just complete shat all over that by having Eren "realize" that he had made the "wrong" decision. I'm not even sure where the story can go forward from here since it doesn't look like Eren's learned his lesson about trusting in his C.O.s. And speaking of Eren learning lessons ...

... what about that scene where he got devoured by the female titan? I can't believe that the author has run out of ideas so quickly that he's already having Eren get eaten again. Talk about déjŕ vu! I was like, "Didn't we already see this in Episode 5? " Seriously, what the hell. "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me" feels like it applies here. Guess we'll find out for certain whether it does or not come next week when we get to find out Eren's fate.

... wait, what's that? What do you mean the sneak peek for Episode 22 doesn't show any new footage? Yeah, Kaisa has already predicted that next week's episode isn't going to advance the plot much at all; and given what we see in the sneak peek, I'm inclined to agree. The optimist in me says, "Maybe next week's episode is so big that there wasn't any footage from it whatsoever that they felt they could show without it being a spoiler? " But the pessimist in me says "What if the fact that all of the sneak peek's footage was old footage is meant to hint that we're getting Recap #2 next week? -_-;" Oh good lord, if we get another recap episode, I'm ...
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And now you're beginning to understand my pain.
Haha, which part? I assume it's Paragraph #1 but want to confirm. I'd also be curious to know if this was the part that made you ragequit the series. I doubt it was, but again: seeking confirmation.
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Paragraph 1 and 2.
Yeah, Paragraph 2's topic was something that really quite disappointed me.

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Like I said: the original message is one that I don't personally agree tend to agree with in my own real life -- I am a skeptic who tends to reject appeals to blind faith -- but like ... it kind of felt like it was something lifted straight out of Romance of the Three Kingdoms. And the fact that I even drag RoTK into this conversation is like dragging the family Bible through mud by means of a dirty old shoelace , but conversely the fact that Shingeki no Kyojin is even netting that comparison from me is sort of a sign that the author did something right for a change. So yeah, it's all sorts of disappointing to see him go "LOL NOPE! I'M AN INDIVIDUALIST JUST LIKE YOU PEEPS!" in the end and have Eren reject the military idea of following your commanding officer's orders, trusting in him, trusting that he wants what's best for you, and accepting that even if he does order you to your death that he is doing so for the greater good and/or the sake of the mission.

You also dodged my question there at the end of the post. ¬_¬ I asked you if any of this is what made you kick the manga to the curb or if it's something we've yet to see. You can answer me in a spoiler box or PM if you feel it's that much of a spoiler to answer, but I don't think it is (especially since I do suspect that the answer is "No, there's worse to come") and would be okay with a PM.
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This was the point when I said this manga was stupid. I said I was going to quit at this point, but then curiosity got the best of me and I read a bit further ahead and well...
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it gets a whole lot worse.
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Then just absolutely god awful. Then I quit outright.
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Just for the record, I read the first spoiler box but not the second.
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New manga chapter is out. I flipped through the Raw out of curiosity and...


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If Armin is seriously a. a titan shifter and b. the titan that ate Eren's mom - like the chapter is implying - then HAHAHAHAHAHA OH WOW THIS IS SOME SHITTY WRITING
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Episode 22:

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As far as the plot goes, it can basically be boiled down to three simple facts:
  1. Levi and Mikasa retrieve Eren.
  2. Dieter (some new guy we've never seen before) and his friend disobey orders and return to the forest to try and retrieve their childhood friend's corpse. This ends up resulting in some titans chasing after Elwin's convoy, which in turn results in additional casualties (or maybe just the one friend) and the loss of several corpses, among them Petra's.
  3. We learn from Narrator Armin that the sortie was so disastrous that it utterly discredits the Legion, resulting in Elwin being summoned to the capital to hand over Eren.
Aside from these three simple facts that take like two minutes to explain, the episode was 20 minutes of OMG EMOTION ... or what was meant to be anyway. ^_^; Now, I'm not so cold-hearted as to say it wasn't sad or whatever, but ... I dunno, it felt kinda overwrought, like the story is taking itself far too seriously. I didn't really need an entire episode devoted to their retreat from the forest. I was initially pretty excited by just how quickly they got Eren back (since I had gone into this episode expecting it to be one long stallfest with Levi and Mikasa talking to one another while tailing the female titan), but this excitement soon proved to be unwarranted.

Seems like it's all but official with the sneak peek for next week's episode that what we've been saying all this time about the female titan's identity was correct. I mean, it's not like it makes any real sense for Annie of all people to suddenly show up when Elwin and Eren are before the king (or the leader of the royal guard, or whomever) and discussing handing Eren over to them. But the sneak peek does confuse me with this one aspect: why on earth is Armin trying to recruit Annie for some sort of secret mission? What secret mission? And why would the dummy trust Annie of all people when she's the one who (quote unquote) "betrayed" them by joining the royal guard instead of the Legion? Just seems awfully strange to me, that's all.
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Episode 22:

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As far as the plot goes, it can basically be boiled down to three simple facts:
  1. Levi and Mikasa retrieve Eren.
  2. Dieter (some new guy we've never seen before) and his friend disobey orders and return to the forest to try and retrieve their childhood friend's corpse. This ends up resulting in some titans chasing after Elwin's convoy, which in turn results in additional casualties (or maybe just the one friend) and the loss of several corpses, among them Petra's.
  3. We learn from Narrator Armin that the sortie was so disastrous that it utterly discredits the Legion, resulting in Elwin being summoned to the capital to hand over Eren.
Aside from these three simple facts that take like two minutes to explain, the episode was 20 minutes of OMG EMOTION ... or what was meant to be anyway. ^_^; Now, I'm not so cold-hearted as to say it wasn't sad or whatever, but ... I dunno, it felt kinda overwrought, like the story is taking itself far too seriously. I didn't really need an entire episode devoted to their retreat from the forest. I was initially pretty excited by just how quickly they got Eren back (since I had gone into this episode expecting it to be one long stallfest with Levi and Mikasa talking to one another while tailing the female titan), but this excitement soon proved to be unwarranted.

Seems like it's all but official with the sneak peek for next week's episode that what we've been saying all this time about the female titan's identity was correct. I mean, it's not like it makes any real sense for Annie of all people to suddenly show up when Elwin and Eren are before the king (or the leader of the royal guard, or whomever) and discussing handing Eren over to them. But the sneak peek does confuse me with this one aspect: why on earth is Armin trying to recruit Annie for some sort of secret mission? What secret mission? And why would the dummy trust Annie of all people when she's the one who (quote unquote) "betrayed" them by joining the royal guard instead of the Legion? Just seems awfully strange to me, that's all.
I was actually annoyed by the first half of this episode.
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So first we're shown that doing as your superiors say is a good idea, then we're shown that if you're Eren Jaeger you should rebel and do all the shit you want, then we go back to "people get killed when you don't do as you're told".

A.k.a. it is shoved down our throats that Eren is THE EXCEPTION TO EVERY RULE EVER and everyone else is fucked if they don't go by the rules.

As someone who's gone by the rules most of her life I was not amused. The writer is losing credit fast if he(?) honestly thinks it's not glaring to the reader that Eren gets away with flipping the bird to military protocol because TITAN POWERZ or his solution is somehow better than the experienced adults'. I've lost count of how many times Eren should have been put on trial and/or killed for military disobedience.

I realize I suck at wording this, but...does it make any sense that the whole military rule system and protocol seem far cheaper when you watch Eren being all Individual For The Win and living/being rewarded, and everyone else dying for even the tiniest mistake all the time? The difference between how the author treats Eren (superhero, always right in the end) and everyone else in the series (break a rule, show weakness or try to do what Eren does and you're dead) is annoying to me.

As for the second half of the episode: I actually like that they're showing the return of Survey Corps from the soldier's side now, as opposed to the citizens' side at the start of the show. Seeing the utter carnage the Survey Corps have to go against constantly for the sake of mankind makes you realize what moronic cowards the people inside the walls are most of the time. Do they honestly think the Survey Corps would be going outside if there was for certain a way to save/protect mankind inside the walls? It's so easy to complain about "useless" operations and wasted tax money when all you're doing is sit around getting fat and waiting for the titans to come eat you (which is a likely possibility since the two appearances of the huge titan).

BUT.

Then we hear the line "they were so fired up just this morning".

Just this morning.

JUST THIS MORNING.

Ladies and gentlemen, the past six episodes of Attack on Titan have happened during less than 24 hours. I honestly thought it had been at least a few days! How do you direct an anime like this to be so damn slow?!

For comparison's sake: the first episode of Dangan Ronpa got through at least three days within one episode. Attack on Titan was stuck within the same 24 hours for six weeks.

Final three episodes to go, guys. It's another multi-part arc. Yaaay.

Also, Talon: haven't we been beaten up the head with how Armin's a genius this whole show? That he's a master of planning and deduction and blah? The sneak peek smells like a trap by Armin to high heaven. Or maybe I'm yet again seeing something "obvious" that isn't so for the rest of this forum.
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Also, Talon: haven't we been beaten up the head with how ...

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Armin's a genius this whole show? That he's a master of planning and deduction and blah? The sneak peek smells like a trap by Armin to high heaven. Or maybe I'm yet again seeing something "obvious" that isn't so for the rest of this forum.
Oh, I quite agree! But the thing is, I really, really, really don't want this to be true. Because it'd just be so dumb.
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