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Old 06-13-2015, 03:58 PM   #76
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Giratina? That's World Abyss.
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Old 06-13-2015, 04:01 PM   #77
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Giratina? That's World Abyss.
I knew I got the name wrong.

Whatever, point still stands.
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Ah, that one. I never really had a problem with Nidoqueens there. I was running Palkia, Electabuzz and Feraligatr by that point, so my main issues were when I got clusterfucked. Or, more accurately, when I found one of the three monster houses per floor. Palkia was about 50something, Electabuzz was 80something and Feraligatr was level 100 because it was my partner. I gave up on using Typhlosion pretty quickly.
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Old 06-13-2015, 04:09 PM   #79
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Ah, that one. I never really had a problem with Nidoqueens there. I was running Palkia, Electabuzz and Feraligatr by that point, so my main issues were when I got clusterfucked. Or, more accurately, when I found one of the three monster houses per floor. Palkia was about 50something, Electabuzz was 80something and Feraligatr was level 100 because it was my partner. I gave up on using Typhlosion pretty quickly.
Yeah Nidoqueen are specifically dangerous in the Monster House though :I


But still nothing compares to the immeasurable hax that is Bullshit Tower.
Togepi, which is ten Levels higher, used Metronome!
It turned into Beat Up!
Four more Togepi spawn!
Togepi used Metronome!
It turned into Fury Swipes!
Five Hits!
Three Reviver Seeds were used!
Togepi used Metronome!
It turned into Beat Up!
Four more fucking Togepi spawn
And then I die.
Over and over again until my page of Reviver Seeds got eaten
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Old 06-13-2015, 04:17 PM   #80
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lol. But still, I have no idea how I beat Primal Dialga. I had fking Cyndaquil and Totodile, the former of which rarely if ever used moves, with very little other than a bunch of Oran Berries and Reviver Seeds for items. Darkrai was easier, because I was like, level 90-odd and I'd learnt how Sleep Seeds worked.
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Old 06-13-2015, 04:22 PM   #81
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Primal Dialga is pretty easy tbh, especially xonsideeing the fact that most, if not all Starters can learn Dig.

Except of course Phanpy which learns no Ground Type Moves except Earthquake and is pretty bad overall anyway too :/
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You say that. I didn't use TMs because I'm a purist. I had an all-STAB moveset for Cynda, and Totodile had like, Crunch, Ice Fang, Hydro Pump and something else.
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Old 06-13-2015, 04:30 PM   #83
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I have a Chimchar with all TM moves and a Muchlax with a pretty cool moveset. We can't win because we keep getting dicked out of all of our recovery items by frickin Monster Houses and Bronzong.
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Old 06-14-2015, 08:20 AM   #84
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You say that. I didn't use TMs because I'm a purist. I had an all-STAB moveset for Cynda, and Totodile had like, Crunch, Ice Fang, Hydro Pump and something else.
how

how does not using TMs make you a purist

just what



Seriously most Pokémon are terirble qithout TMs, and there is zero penalty on using them since in GtI they're infi-use and in the old ones you can restore them with Recycle :/
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I didn't have recycle, and I sold them because I never needed them in Time. GtI... I have no clue about there. tbh, I don't really bother much with TMs in any game.
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:56 AM   #86
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I didn't have recycle, and I sold them because I never needed them in Time. GtI... I have no clue about there. tbh, I don't really bother much with TMs in any game.
But why.

Serioudly, if you use, say, Ninetales, you're stuck with a crappy fox that has good stats but does nothing but spam Fire Moves.
No Energy Ball, Psychic, Dark Pulse, nothing.

Why the fuck would you even use something like that :I
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...I ran a Cyndaquil with like, Flame Wheel, Flamethrower, Lava Plume and Eruption. This was way back when, before I was any good at anything, but even in GtI, my Axew had Dragon Rage, Assurance, Dragon Claw and either Dual Chop or Swords Dance.
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...I ran a Cyndaquil with like, Flame Wheel, Flamethrower, Lava Plume and Eruption. This was way back when, before I was any good at anything, but even in GtI, my Axew had Dragon Rage, Assurance, Dragon Claw and either Dual Chop or Swords Dance.
:c

Yeeesh that Cyndaquil hurts.
Mt. Thunder must have been terriblr with those Flash Fire Growlithe around everywhere.

Dragon Rage is flat out terrible once you get to, like, any point in the game not a Level 1 Dungeon. Rock Tomb or the like would have been much better, and there is no reason to run Dragon Claw when Dual Chop has higher Damage output since a single hit from both maxed out deals the same Damage, which is of course doubled by Dual Chop.
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I don't think I have any move maxed out on GtI. Also, Mt Thunder? That Cyndaquil was Time, not Blue. In Blue, I was a Machop. I think I gave up after, like, all of the bosses wrecked either me or my partner, Pikachu.
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Oddly enough Machop was the only Pokemon in which I used link moves, because Focus Energy and Leer + Karate Chop was hilariously OP.
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I don't think I have any move maxed out on GtI. Also, Mt Thunder? That Cyndaquil was Time, not Blue. In Blue, I was a Machop. I think I gave up after, like, all of the bosses wrecked either me or my partner, Pikachu.
Huh.
Well even so...
Well what do you know. No Fire Themes Story Dungeons in Explorers excspt Dark Crater. :/

Machop is pretty bad for Storyline because Legendary Birds, but really, Pikachu is one of the best choices because of Thunder Wave and Agility. In terms of usage I'd call it one of he best Starters.

Also Reflect+Light Screen Linked Chikorita pretty much walled everything in the game so if a freaking Chikorita can get by Articuno without eating a Reviver Seed at the vey least a Pikachu should be able to do so.







Anyway though, new info, Personality Test is confirmed to return, but there's a chance it's optional. Not much else said on that front.
Plot revolves around Pokémon turning to stone and stuff.
Art was released that confirms Mega Evolution and Hoopa, and Xerneas as a tree is in the background.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:14 AM   #92
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Pikachu just ran into severe issues against Groudon and Zapdos, and had to basically take on Moltres alone. No prizes for guessing why. Also, I hated Agility in PMD games, and actively avoided learning it. I kept to my standard in-game movesets of 4 attacks, fuck status/setup until, like, postgame GtI.
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>fuck Agility

It's like the most OP move in the game. How can you say fuck Agility when it gives you extra turns compared to your opponent??? It's why I hated Articuno, because Agility makes it a fucking monster.
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Pikachu just ran into severe issues against Groudon and Zapdos, and had to basically take on Moltres alone. No prizes for guessing why. Also, I hated Agility in PMD games, and actively avoided learning it. I kept to my standard in-game movesets of 4 attacks, fuck status/setup until, like, postgame GtI.
Yeah Zapdos and Groudon are understandable.

Seriously no idea why Moltres would be so challenging, I found it the easiest of the three Birds.

Why do you hate Agility? It literally can give you 8 free Moves in a single turn.
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Meh. I had a mindset of 'if it doesn't do damage, it's worthless' back then.
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Meh. I had a mindset of 'if it doesn't do damage, it's worthless' back then.
Tbh outside Agility and Moves similar to that, Protect, or other stuff like that they pretty much are worthless.

Seriously Items can do Swords Dance's Job better, Defense Curl is an utter niche Move, Amnesia is pretty terrible because of how negligible the Damage reduction is, etc.
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Meh. Also remember I was rubbish back then pls?
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Meh. Also remember I was rubbish back then pls?
That is no excuse because I too was utter rubbish back at PMD Blue's release and got stuck at Sinister Woods for five months because fuck that Exeggutor and yet realised Agility breaks the game in half.
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Meh. My first PMD was Time, and I don't think Cyndaquil or Totodile ever had access to Agility. By Blue, I still gave zero fucks about setup moves, and by GtI, I was more concerned about Axew being a weak-ass piece of shit. Also, that guy didn't get Agility either iirc.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:40 AM   #100
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"postgame GtI"

Wasn't there like one dungeon after the main story
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