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Old 11-05-2019, 09:56 PM   #326
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Leaks are going to begin again soon.

There were 3 leakers. One with the guidebook, who has since stopped. Another was a Discord dramalama and has been pwn by Nintendo, and the last is an Indonesian guy leaking through 4chan.

At this point, I'm less interested in the designs and stuff since basically the whole game's surface-level details have been leaked. What matters now are the competitive aspects, and whether the datamine reveals of the natdex is programmed into the game.
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Old 11-06-2019, 05:37 AM   #327
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Scorbunny is literally Fire-type Greninja, with a 120 BP Fire-type move that's 90% accurate, burns with no recoil. Also gets Psychic-type coveage for Toxapex.

Inteleon is just Greninja.

120 SPA
120 SPE
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Old 11-06-2019, 06:02 AM   #328
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Well not really, Ninja's very clearly got mixed offenses and these two are purely just straight physical/special.
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Old 11-07-2019, 12:29 AM   #329
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"Heavy Duty Boots" - prevents the effects of hazard on the field.

A lot of neat items this gen, including a spray that gives +1 SpA after using a sound move.
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Old 11-07-2019, 05:16 AM   #330
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Zacien and Zamazenta estimated stats:

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Zamazenta:

Base Forme
Type: Fighting

HP : 100
ATK: 125
DEF: 110
SPA: 85
SPD: 110
SPE: 140
=680 BST

Crowned Forme
Type: Fighting/Steel

HP : 100
ATK: 125
DEF: 140
SPA: 85
SPD: 140
SPE: 130
=720 BST

+1 DEF on entering battle

Zacien

Base Forme
Type: Fairy

HP : 100
ATK: 125
DEF: 110
SPA: 85
SPD: 110
SPE: 140
=680 BST

Crowned Forme
Type: Fairy/Steel

HP : 100
ATK: 155
DEF: 110
SPA: 115
SPD: 110
SPE: 130
=720 BST

+1 ATK on entering battle
Zacien is a no-doubt AG Pokemon. Zamazenta feels borderline.

If these two were in Ubers, Zacien, Zamazenta, Primal Groudon, Ho-Oh and Necrozma Dusk Mane would be on every team.
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:21 AM   #331
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:47 AM   #332
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AG?

AG refers to the "Anything Goes" tier, which was created in OrAs to account for the fact that Mega Rayquaza was so incredibly busted that even Ubers couldn't handle the dang thing. The Emerald Dragon hasn't gotten any buddies since, however.

Speaking of, I'm fairly certain that Zamazenta wouldn't quite make it to AG- after all, everyone expected Ultra Necrozma to make it, and that thing wound up stuck in Ubers anyway. That said, I don't believe we know what the Rusted Sword and Rusted Shield do outside of changing the wolves' formes quite yet, so maybe they'll be a tipping point?
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Anything Goes, the 'no rules' level of comp.
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:05 AM   #334
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Not a ton of critical new stuff tonight except the reveal that, yes, the game's graphics blow:

https://i.imgur.com/FT8T5wP.png

Yikes. Well, I'm sure the average fan doesn't care as long as it looks "anime".
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It's a Switch game, I'm not quite sure what you're expecting.
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:08 AM   #336
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I'm taken aback that it's 2019 and we have a console that makes Sword & Shield look like Black & White. Whose fault is this, really?

Like wasn't the whole crux of the complaints about BW's sprites that they looked horrible due to the pseudo-3D zoom?

I wonder if that Switch is docked? I don't remember many top-down shots from LGPE so I dunno how that game compares, but from what I remember I didn't see any fuzziness like that in Kanto!
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Old 11-08-2019, 07:12 AM   #337
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The only issue I can see is that the camera looks a little far back, but given other screenshots I've seen that's more likely due to location than anything else.
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:54 PM   #338
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I really wish gaming journalists were not on Nintendo's payroll so what transpired today could be fairly explained. This makes me feel like we live in communist Russia where the old media is useless, you have to be living the events to understand what's happening.

Would anyone be interested if I wrote a summary out what's happening? Like from the eShop refunds onward?
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They're journalists, they're lucky to be on a payroll. It's the execs that put the weight on.

That aside though, far as I'm aware eShop doesn't do refunds. Does it stem from that?
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Old 11-08-2019, 06:40 PM   #340
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Here's my timeline of events.

11 June -Masuda announces at E3 that many Pokemon will be cut from Sword/Shield ('dexit')
28 June -Masuda issues a statement about dexit, but only in English. Japanese fans are unaware a statement was even made.
16 October -Little Town Hero is released to negative reviews and poor sales
29 October -SS preload loaded
01 November -First SS leaks begin with four leakers:

Sword Leaker ('Discord Leaker')
Shield Leaker ('Leakerchad')
Indonesian Leaker
Guidebook Leaker

The guidebook and Indonesian leakers disappear after November 1st, the Sword leaker doxxes himself after November 2nd, while the 4chan leaker continues to leak until launch.

03 November -The Galar dex leaks on 4chan. 400 Pokemon. The news makes it to Japanese Twitter which was previously unaware of the 'dexit', due to Masuda's comments only being released in English. There is shock and outrage.
04 November -Nintendo (not TPCI) steps in, begns to DMCA all websites that so much as discuss upcoming Sword/Shield material.
06 November -The gag order is in full effect, with news outlets, YouTube, Twitter and Discord servers so much as mentioning leaks are all shut down.
07 November -Austin Walker at WayPoint makes a claim that GameFreak morale is at an "all-time low". Older Sword/Shield trailers advertising Pokemon not in the game are pulled, and new trailers are uploaded that specifically only show Pokemon from the game.
08 November -GameFreak cancels a Sunshine City promotional event hosted by Masuda and Ohmori, due to 'operational reasons' but clearly related to promises of Kyoani style arson attacks on Futaba and 2channel. Nintendo eShop begins accepting refunds for Sword/Shield preorders, previously only allowed to Overwatch following the China controversy
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Old 11-09-2019, 05:34 AM   #341
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Some of these are absolutely going to need sources of some kind.
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Old 11-09-2019, 06:48 AM   #342
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Regarding eShop refunds, I read one comment that says Nintendo's policy actually does allow one digital refund per customer, regardless of title. Might be something you need to specifically ask for though.
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Old 11-09-2019, 07:19 AM   #343
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Nintendo eShop begins accepting refunds for Sword/Shield preorders, previously only allowed to Overwatch following the China controversy
Don't forget they also allowed Overwatch refunds because a week after it was released on Switch they announced Overwatch 2.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:18 AM   #344
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Some of these are absolutely going to need sources of some kind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kihec7cAJ40
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Old 11-09-2019, 02:11 PM   #345
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I find it hard to believe that Japanese fans just found out about dexit, considering the incredible amount of buzz that was generated. Someone in the four+ months would've had to have translated the statement and reported on it in Japanese
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They didn't just find about it- the Japanese side of the internet was on just as much fire the week following the Dexit reveal as our side. They are, however, just now finding out just how severe the cuts really were, just like we did earlier in the week.
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My understanding is that Japanese Twitter was unaware of the cuts, and that the dex leaks are blindsiding.

Futaba and 2ch knew about it but they don't intersect with the larger social media platforms in the same way as the English language ones do. Here, for example, 4chan is used where the other platforms go to vent and incite, then repost clever ideas to their primary platforms. That's a far cry from how things were 10 years ago where people never or cared about things off 4chan.

I'll keep an eye out though in case some more snapshots of the anger get posted, since I'm interested too but can't do thorough research yet.

Also,

November 09 - #ThankYouGameFreak begins trending on Twitter at 900 tweets
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We may be getting a datamine in less then 8 hours.

Also, I have verified that the dexit was indeed translated into Japanese and the E3 comments were disseminated in Japanese. They've known for months.
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So they knew, they were just more optimistic about how many were getting cut? Rather than over here where we immediately assumed that we'd lose half the dex.
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No, I have a feeling it was either deliberate misinformation or a bad translation, a number of those have been floating around.

EDIT: Not on Dopple's part mind you.
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