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Old 06-06-2017, 10:01 AM   #1
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Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon General Discussion [Spoiler Warning]


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Old 06-06-2017, 10:01 AM   #2
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Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon have been announced with a release date set for November 17th, 2017.

REVEAL TRAILER HERE

The trailer confirmed there will be new Pokemon in Alola, and hinted at the possibility of new Alola forms. It also showed off what appeared to be a Necrozma-fused Solgaleo and Lunala, as well as new Z-Moves.

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Just the titles are. The actually important image is still hidden.
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Gamefreak taking the COD route and making me pay again for the same game again I see

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Old 06-06-2017, 10:49 AM   #6
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Just the titles are. The actually important image is still hidden.
I actually had an 'oh shit' moment when Zelphon pointed that out and rushed to fix it.
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For the sake of keeping everyone who cares on the same speculation boat as me, I'm going to copypasta my Discord observations over here. Call me silly if you want.

-I just realized that you can see Lunaala's chest-glow from behind its Necrazma!armor. It even matches the original latticework and everything!

-Okay, that Z-Ring's unusually dark.
--Necrozma has something to do with Z-Crystals, confirmed?

-Seeing as Lunaala, Solgaleo, and Necrozma all share a type, I don't think we're going to see any changes in that regard. The first might get a decent defense buff though, seeing as it now looks like it's wearing half-plate armor.

-You know, I think the new legend forms are gonna be like a refverse kyurem- yeas, Necrozma's in both fusions, but Nebby's the one ultimately in control. Anyone else?

-More just-noticed details- Solgaleo has a beard. Seems to be a trend nowadays.

By no means is this a lot of significant stuff, but maybe someone else can gleam more conclusions and ideas from it? We'll see, I suppose.
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-You know, I think the new legend forms are gonna be like a refverse kyurem- yeas, Necrozma's in both fusions, but Nebby's the one ultimately in control.

...maybe someone else can gleam more conclusions and ideas from it? We'll see, I suppose.
Just want to point out that Colress is in Alola...

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He is in Alola researching the Z-Ring and if it can draw out the power of Pokémon more effectively than the Mega Ring. He also expresses interest in the Poké Pelago.
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Gamefreak taking the COD route and making me pay again for the same game again I see

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fuck you crys game freak arent as cancerously greedy as activision are you ignoramus

its not like theyre gonna force us to pay for pokeballs with real money are they

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fuck you crys game freak arent as cancerously greedy as activision are you ignoramus

its not like theyre gonna force us to pay for pokeballs with real money are they

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Fuck, how long until Pokemon becomes free-to-play and they do this?
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Still haven't completed Sun and Moon proper, but from what I saw of the trailer, my impression is that we're in for an alternate universe re-telling of Sun and Moon, ŕ la the plot of ORAS (particularly with the inclusion of the Delta Episode). Like ... it would be like imagining if ORAS came out shortly after RuSa, on the same hardware with the same graphics. RuSa gives you Groudon, ORAS gives you Omega Groudon. RuSa gives you a Brendan and May who look like RSE Brendan and May, ORAS gives you a Brendan and May who look like ORAS Brendan and May. RuSa gives you Mauville City, ORAS gives you a wildly different take on Mauville City. Stuff like that. I don't expect it to be a temporal sequel or prequel. (A lot o' lot o' people who seem to think this is going to be the next BW2 when I don't think it is ...)

Not terribly excited. Then again, I've been really underwhelmed by Sun and Moon in general compared with most people, it seems. While I don't think I'll sit USUM out, I do worry about how little I might end up enjoying playing it ...

The most disappointing thing about the USUM announcement for me is, it means that all of you who adore Sun and Moon so much aren't getting the "Stars" Switch version that we were all so certain you'd be getting. I say "you", "you" since I feel like I can't include myself in this, not being too big into Sun and Moon ... but like, I had really wanted the 3DS graphics of Sun and Moon to be replaced by Switch graphics, and for all of us to get a new chance to look at Lillie and Kukui and everyone else.
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So far there's so little to go on that I'm not really sure what to think, but considering S&M is still up there for me with BW2 and HGSS, I'm looking forward to it.

But oh my god the new legend designs are piss to look at.
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Yeah I guess the only thing I can really comment on is the fusiony legend designs. Like I'm really hyped for USUM because I picked up Sun and it was my favorite game in the series so far, so going through that world again with some maybe different takes on certain areas is going to be a blast. However, the legend fusions are kind of gross. Kyurem-White grew on me a little bit but it's certainly not one of my favorites. I still think Kyurem-Black is pretty hideous. And right now I think both of the fusions are pretty bad. Maybe Lunala's is a little better? I don't know. I'm still going to buy one of them and put the typical 50+ hours into it like I always do.
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I personally love the fusions because they looked like what would happen when I'd mix my bioncles together as a little kid and they fill me with nostalgia.
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I admit I was hoping the next Pokemon RPG would be Switch, especially since the 3DS could apparently barely handle Sun/Moon. I'm not too excited for Ultra Sun/Moon, but I'll still give it a shot. If it fixes the soullessness of the main character, and tones down on the Kanto references, it should be muy bueno.
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In Generation VI, fans speculated about the Johto starters receiving Mega Evolutions. In Gen VII, it's Alolan forms, for them and for a number of other Johtomons.


But did you know that in the trailer last month announcing Pokémon Gold and Silver for the Virtual Console they planted an Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon Easter Egg? If you look carefully at the middle part of the trailer, when we're inside the Ruins of Alph, the letters along the top of the chamber repeat "ULTRA SUN" and "ULTRA MOON". You can see the entire room here, though the letters are most legible in the picture above.

This could mean absolutely nothing. It could be a simple marketing ploy to generate hype for USUM.

Or it could mean that there is a likely connection between USUM and GSC. A connection between the regions? A connection between their stories? Maybe even the Alolan Johto Pokémon that fans have been clamoring for?

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A few weeks ago, I wrote up a post in which I discussed Game Freak's flirtation with committing our franchise's canon to one embroiled with alternate realities. It's a trend that you could say has been there since the very beginning, but it's most prominently come to the fore in the two most recent outings, Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire and Sun & Moon. Now that I've seen this hidden clue in the trailer for Gold and Silver on the Virtual Console, I have to wonder ...

... Do they plan to use alternate realities as a means by which to explain away Whitney's captaincy of the Normal-type Gym in Gold and Silver? :o After all, the Fairy type didn't really upend anyone's gym rosters in Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova, or Kanto ... But in Johto, we had a girl whose entire gym was modeled around a certain Normal type on her team:


Previously, my thinking had been that this was part of the reason why Game Freak was pushing so hard for VC re-releases of the older games, rather than flirting with the fanbase and delivering us newer versions of FRLG and HGSS. After all, they can't keep on remaking the past games forever. Not with the continual addition of new generations making the problem exponentially difficult to manage. But even if they could remake the older games forever, and even if they wanted to, Whitney's gym presents a rather curious problem for the development team: how do we work around the fact that her gym is modeled after a Pokémon that is no longer one type but her signature Pokémon is only that type? I'm speaking, of course, about Clefairy and Miltank. Clefairy has become mono-Fairy, while Miltank remains mono-Normal. You can't rebrand Whitney as a Fairy specialist when Miltank's her signature Pokémon ... But you can't very well axe Clefairy from her team either when her very gym is famously patterned after it!

Will they argue that GSC takes place in one timeline where mankind had not identified a "Fairy type" as a separately-existing creature type ... while "Neo HGSS" will take place in a second, different timeline where mankind has figured this out and Whitney now either lacks Clefairy (because she's the Normal-type Gym Leader and because Miltank is her signature Pokémon) or else she lacks Miltank (because she's reborn as a Fairy-type Gym Leader whose signature Pokémon is Clefairy)?

All of that stated, I think the likeliest outcome predicted by the Unown text is that we're going to get Alolan forms of Johto Pokémon in USUM. It seems awfully strange that all of the Alolan forms are of Kanto Pokémon; a lot of Johto Pokémon frankly suck :\ and could use the second shot at greatness that an Alolan form can provide; and Johto has quite the footprint in Alolan cities and architecture, from Malie City and its very Kyoto-esque feel to Heahea City and its oddly specific history as a city "founded long ago by Trainers from the Kanto and Johto regions" and no other region.
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I did notice the Unown text, and I would absolutely love to see some Alola Forms for Johto Pokémon. Psychic/Flying Alolan Noctowl? Bug/Fighting Alolan Ledian, this time with an Attack stat that isn't complete garbage? Normal/Ghost Alolan Stantler? I've heard rumors of a Poison/Steel Alolan Qwilfish as well, which would be pretty cool to see, though I personally prefer Qwilfish the way it is.
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Man if they made an Alolan Meganium with the stats, typing, and moves ofmeganium from the Fire Red Advanced back by Z-nogyroP, it might actually be good instead of worst grass starter. But yes, more Alolans, especially if they aren't yet more genwunning, are always welcome.
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Damn Talon you blew my mind. I was already kind of expecting to get Johto Alolan forms but putting in the Unown Glyphs? That is defs an easter egg and I feel almost certain we will be getting Alolan forms for Johto now.
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So about that reveal...

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God fucking damn it we had daywoof and moon moon

This thing's orange, I'm calling it LycanWOAH.
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