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Kevin Clash (Elmo's puppeteer) controversy
Figured this could be a thread for discussing various aspects of this controversy. But first, funnily enough, I wanted to share this unrelated and amusing video from one month ago.
As for the controversy, the first paragraph of Wikipedia's article on Clash sums up the current situation nicely: Quote:
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11-24-2012, 02:21 PM | #2 |
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I don't what to feel. On the one hand, I don't like how Clash was willing to risk the integrity of his important mission as a producer on Sesame Street by doing this. When one answers a greater calling, I can't imagine someone would do behaviour to jeopardize that. Same thing with the Petreas affair. I definitely know a big part of my nature plays into why I think like this and reduces my ability to empathize, but it's still puzzling.
The kids might be ruining this guy's life, but like in the Paterno case, individual human decency trumps the privileged. Better they step out now than more victims appear and suffer in silence because the masses would grant celebrities immunity from blame or prosecution.
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11-24-2012, 02:43 PM | #3 |
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I'm inclined to believe the accusers are lying.
Not quite sure what you mean about a "greater calling", however, Doppel. |
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Unfortunately I don't think it matters if the accuser is lying or not. It will tarnish is reputation forever.
Look at Michael Jackson. He was accused of pedophilia and it was bogus, but everyone still thought of him as one. Although, he was a weirdo. |
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It's easier to buy when Clash admits he was in a sexual relationship with them. What could have happened was a consensual, under-aged encounter, which is still illegal.
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Everyone wanted to believe Jackson was a pedophile because they couldn't otherwise rationalize his behaviour, since he didn't fit into any molds of how people in his situation were supposed to act. After he died, people came forward and admitted they made up the accusations, and Jackson isn't seen as a pedophile anymore.
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Clash's last yearly income was reportedly $12 million. This astonished me until my source clarified that that included royalties he collected from Elmo merchandise. If it turns out he made more than even $1 million via a CTW salary, however, I think that could be damaging for CTW's public image since they're always campaigning for public funding.
I bring this figure up because apparently the second accuser is suing for $5 million. That strikes me as ludicrous considering the man "only" made $12 million last year, and probably about the same on average (some years more, some years less) since the Tickle Me Elmo craze circa fifteen years ago, before which time Elmo didn't count for shit and Clash likely made a modest income of $35,000 to a more generous income of $70,000. Still, I doubt he was making a doctor's income before the mid-90s. So ... $12 million/year x 15 years = $180 million. So this guy wants $5 million or 1/36 of Clash's fortune -- and that would only be if you assume zero taxes and zero net losses via expenditures and such. In reality he probably only has ~$20 million of his estimated earnings over the past twenty years: and this plaintiff wants one-quarter of them.
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11-24-2012, 07:04 PM | #8 |
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Why is it easier to buy when he admits to a consensual, adult relationship? I don't see how that makes it any more likely to have been statutory rape. If anything, it makes it look like (to me, anyway) a vengeful ex trying to cut a slice of what he doesn't deserve (or maybe feels entitled to) and tarnish the reputation of a beloved entertainer. Think about what, as mentioned, people said about Michael Jackson. Think about the vicious rumours that went around about Mister Rogers of all people.
As well, that does seem somewhat offensive, as just because he worked for Sesame Street does not in any way mean that his life has to be Sesame Street. And I am not sure how in any way having a sexual relationship between consenting adults would tarnish that, anyway. |
11-24-2012, 07:14 PM | #9 |
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Because he's established that contact happened in the first place. Most libelous cases of people accusing others of molestation (like in the Michael Jackson case) begin with a fictional encounter. I don't think it's outrageous to say that if A preceded C, saying B happened in between makes C seem a bit more plausible.
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