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Old 11-10-2019, 11:02 AM   #351
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There was a live stream of Sword on YouTube running for about 2 hours this morning before YT killed it. So people do and have been playing physical copies on hacked Switches.

Given this, the lack of a game dump is a little strange.
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Old 11-10-2019, 11:11 AM   #352
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My guess is that a lot of the less scrupulous people who have it have been too busy grabbing their own 2 minutes of fame to bother putting the game files out there, thus making it difficult for the folks with the expertise to perform such a dump to actually do so. Can't make applesauce without the apple, ya know?
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Old 11-10-2019, 11:21 AM   #353
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Maybe I'm old school, but I don't understand the appeal of trying to brag about early access on Discord or 4chan. Worst case scenario TPCI or Nintendo catch you and you go to jail, like the "Sword Leaker", and best case scenario you're d-wagging on an anonymous imageboard. Back in the day, we used to call this "pissing in an ocean of piss".

The GameFreak drama is old hat now.
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Old 11-10-2019, 12:20 PM   #354
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A not-so-insignificant part of my generation, especially those of us would've had lower amounts of patience anyway, is a bit too hard-wired to seek out instant gratification at this point, thanks to growing up with constant access social media. Ultimately, this sort of haphazard leaking is a form of instant-gratification, and many of the people who did either didn't think about the consequences of getting caught, or honestly believed that there was no way they could be until proven otherwise.

Last Friday's guidebook leaker, for example, could just as easily be a case of this at play. The person with the actual book was merely showing off to their friend, like "hey, check out this cool thing I found!", and the friend saw an opportunity for themselves and started posting the pictures online. This obviously put the first person in a risky situation they didn't sign up to be in in the first place, so they cut the friend off when they found out.

Today's streamer was arguably even dumber, since there have been a couple busts already over the week, and they didn't even bother to hide themselves. They put themselves at risk for a few kicks, and ultimately paid the price for their hubris when their stream got shut down a couple hours in.

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That said, I did come up with another hypothesis as to why a ROM hasn't made available yet- it doesn't seem too unreasonable to me to believe that none of the people who have managed to score a coy of the games even know how to do so yet, even the Switch's PKHex program being available already.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:22 PM   #355
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Rapid Spin now grants +1 speed on use. A lot of new mons get it.
Aegislash nerfed to 140/140 def/spd in shield stance and 140/140 atk/spa in sword stance.
Polteageist learns Shell Smash, Stored Power and Strength Sap.
Darkest Lariat, Power Whip, Nasty Plot, Leaf Blade are now TRs.
Earthquake may no longer be a TM. It's confirmed no longer TM26. No TR or TM41 have been found.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:31 PM   #356
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Probably a TR, it looks like all the good moves are TRs nlw.
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Old 11-10-2019, 07:55 PM   #357
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Close Combat may also be a TR, and the theme I'm seeing from this Gen VIII meta is it's going to revolve around hazards, spinning, and spinblocking. Gengar, Polteageist, Dragopult and Aegislash are all going to be OU. So will Tyranitar and Hydreigon.

United "Haunted" Kingdom indeed.
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Old 11-11-2019, 04:11 AM   #358
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I... Strongly question OU Polteageist. Slow, physically frail, and with an abundance of checks most of which you've named there plus literally any physical move is going to maul it. Shell Smash/Stored Power is not going to be enough to keep it relevant.
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Old 11-11-2019, 08:27 AM   #359
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What do we mean by moves being "TR?" Is that some new shorthand for Tutor moves?
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Old 11-11-2019, 08:47 AM   #360
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TRs are single-use TMs. The game has both and it looks like TRs are going to have all the actually decent moves, while TMs are just shit like Flash and Confide.
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Datamines have started apparently.

Findings as of this post, supposedly:
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>Venusaur
Blastoise
>Mewtwo
>Celebi
>Jirachi
>Galarian Darmanitan has a special mode too
>Cobalion
>Terrakion
>Virizion
>Reshiram
>Zekrom
>Kyurem
>White Kyurem
>Black Kyurem
>Keldeo
>Resolution Keldeo
>Decidueye
>Incineroar
>Primarina
>Solgaleo
>Lunala
>Necrozma
>Dusk Mane Necrozma
>Dawn Wings Necrozma
>Marshadow
>Zeraora
>Meltan
>Melmetal
>Giga-Snorlax
>Giga-Melmetal
>Giga-Orbeetle
>Giga-Sandaconda
>Giga-Toxtricity
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:01 AM   #362
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Oh god it's not just Dexit it's Movexit too
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:04 AM   #363
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tbf a lot of the cut moves are the early/mid game moves that just stopgap till good stuff comes online.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:05 AM   #364
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There was speculation Knock Off was removed because nobody was able to see it in-game during the live stream. Was that one of the culled moves?
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:07 AM   #365
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https://pastebin.com/3FTfUgzd

Knock Off is still around. The notable ones cut are Pursuit, Return/Frustration, and Hidden Power (at least from a competitive standpoint)

also seems to confirm Z-moves are no more
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:36 AM   #366
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Rillaboom's HA is Grassy Surge
Cinderace is Protean
Inteleon is Sniper

...lol
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:38 AM   #367
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One of these things is not like the others
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:53 AM   #368
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Eternatus has 1125 BST.

Necrozma can no longer go Ultra.

Zacian's stats are worse than what I predicted.

170 ATK, 148 SPE
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I need to know exactly what the context of 1125 BST is good fucking lord
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:10 AM   #370
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I think that's his Eternamax form. The next closest are Zacian/Zamazenta in their crowned formes.

HP 140
ATK: 85
DEF: 95
SPA: 145
SPD: 95
SPE: 130
=690 BST


HP: 255
ATK: 115
DEF: 250
SPA: 125
SPD: 250
SPE: 130
=1125 BST
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Galarian Darmanitan doesn't have Sheer Force, his new ability is Gorilla Tactics, which is basically Choice Band as an ability.

There's no reason to not give it an actual Choice Band on top of that.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:32 AM   #372
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I was just about to declare Frosmoth unviable (125 SPA, 65 SPE), but it has Ice Scales, which halves all special damage.

That is crazy and makes up for the lower BST than Volcarona.

Indeedee is like a reskin of Latios/Latias and Tapu Lele. Has Psychic Surge, male is more specially offensive and frailer than female, which is more specially defensive.
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With the cull of Return, normal types are officially dead.
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Alola 2: Everything is Slow Boogaloo
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