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I read last night about how they Kickstarted a second episode and about how there are considerations for either/or/both a feature-length film and a 13-episode television series. Personally, I think the tale of LWA -- or at least Akko's tale, specifically -- would be much better suited to a 2-hour film than to a thirteen-episode weekly television series. Honestly, what we already received in the 26-minute version is very good: it just wants for a little more padding (with respect to the temporal territory already covered) and an additional fifteen to twenty minutes of exploratory "epilogue" regarding Shiny Chariot, why the jeweled staff lost its glean, etc. (with respect to the temporal territory not yet covered). It's decipherable to a competent viewer with what we were given, but the satisfaction of on-screen exploration would be nice. A 90-minute to 120-minute film would handle this nicely. A 25x13-minute television series would, I fear, suffer too much for artificial padding and drawing things out way too much.
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12-25-2014, 09:09 PM | #6652 |
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So I got a LootCrate subscription for Christmas, and this month's crate had a 30 day Crunchyroll pass. I'm still debating if I'm going to use it, but if I do I need stuff to watch. Something for the uninitiated watcher, maybe? Any mention of Naruto or Bleach or Onr Piece will be dismissed.
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12-25-2014, 09:22 PM | #6653 |
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It looks like you haven't posted in this topic before, could you give us a short list of things you've seen?
Otherwise, I would recommend Naruto, One Piece and Bleach.
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12-26-2014, 10:16 PM | #6654 |
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I excluded the first two because seen it already, and the third because I've heard some CREEPY stuff about it. But other than that, only thing I've really watched is FMA:B
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Anyway: recommendations. The problems are:
CrunchyRoll apparently has Rozen Maiden, so there's one recommendation that I think would suit somebody with your experiences (and what little I know of your interests). They also appear to have AnoHana, another series you could probably enjoy with where you are right now. It's a bit somber / serious, but that's fine! (Or well, you decide!) They've got Nagi no Asukara. By a studio I'm quite fond of, and it was a series I quite enjoyed as well. I dunno, I find myself unable or unwilling to recommend any of my 10/10s to you because of your age, lack of experience, and just generally not wanting to start you off on filet mignon.
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12-27-2014, 12:57 AM | #6656 |
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Taste? I guess that is important...*facepalms repeatedly*
Romance genre is really not for me. I'm okay with it as a plot element, but not the plot itself. Stuff that can give me a good laugh is appreciated, as well as maybe an explosion here or there.
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12-27-2014, 01:03 AM | #6658 |
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If Myles has only seen big shounen, that's a good way to set a foundation for what he wants to see.
My starter kit would consist of: Rurouni Kenshin Outlaw Star Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex Black Lagoon Fate/stay night (2006 anime) Here you get a historical Japanese anime, a futuristic space anime, a futuristic Earth anime, a pulpy modern anime, and a modern fantasy anime. These are more adult oriented than "kiddie" as-is the demographic for the so-called "big 3" shounen titles, but are still fairly familiar. If romcoms are entertaining to you, that's an easier route to go through: Ranma 1/2 and School Rumble are good first time shows.
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12-27-2014, 01:15 AM | #6659 |
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Having just come out of Fate mafia I think I'll head that way first. Thanks much! [/TomNook]
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12-27-2014, 01:15 AM | #6660 |
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Not sure on what will please ye, but I guess I can regurgitate some shows you might like. I'll try to keep the shows recent and likely on CR.
Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon - Pretty good action show with some very nice humor. The plot is a bit convoluted, but you can appreciate it without paying much attention to it. Hitsugi no Chaika - Another good action show. It even ended recently. There's no powerlevel shounen bullshit in this show, which is pretty nice. Even useless grunts are a threat! Sakurasou no Pet wa Kanojo (I can't be assed to remember the name) - Honestly, this show put a really bad taste in my mouth, but alot of newer fans really like this show. Sword Art Online - Another show I don't really care for, but newer fans love. I can't think of any other shows at the moment. I only liked the first two, but I can't really recommend my favorite shows, because they either require a strange sense of humor or a trip down the dark path of magical girl shows. Speaking of Chaika, I finished the second season. The ending was dumb and rushed, but other than that, nice show. I won't say much more, since I'll just be repeating myself. Anyway, Hitsugi no Chaika Avenging Battle gets a 8. |
12-27-2014, 03:24 AM | #6661 |
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Death Billiards
After Talon's high review I was eager to try this out. I was not as enthused by it - I felt like the writing pulled a Lost on the audience and rather than have an answer in hand and challenge them to draw a conclusion, they wanted our imaginations to get overactive. I didn't exactly care for the speech by the young guy, either. I mean, it was true...but so what? Spoiler: show I did not get to dance in the end zone. The twist I dismissed as "too obvious" turned out to be 100% accurate, and the one I was gambling on wasn't. Boo. Now, none of this is to say I did not like it - I thought it was solid, 8/10 material. But it didn't make it to that hallowed ground of the near perfect score.
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12-27-2014, 04:25 AM | #6662 |
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DEATH BILLIARDS was pretty sweet, although I agree that the speech wasn't up to par with the stuff you find in the real deal Kaiji. I loved the general atmosphere and mystery.
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12-27-2014, 04:55 AM | #6663 |
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I watched Death Billiards.
Spoiler: show Anyway, not sure if you guys were aware, but it's apparently being made into a TV series called Death Parade airing in January.
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12-27-2014, 10:22 AM | #6664 |
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@Yuki: I deliberately didn't mention that because I didn't want that knowledge to influence your viewing of the (originally) stand-alone episode. But yes, I found that out shortly after watching it myself. Looking forward to it but also worried about it -- I think the premise worked wonderfully as a one shot and risks getting stale as a thirteen shot. :\
@Doppel: Sweet Jesus Christ you were pretty condescending towards me. Serves you right you didn't get what you wanted! "If Talon likes it there must be some TWIST!" Yes. Because Minami-ke and Genshiken are all about plot twists. Or yes, because you yourself don't have a laundry list of shows you love featuring twists. C'mon, man. One, everyone loves a good twist. And two, everyone has things they love that feature no twist. It's a strange assumption to make of anyone that "loved it = had a twist" and it's an even stranger thing to see it coming in such smug, looking-down-from-on-high fashion from a guy whose list of favorite all-time stories includes the Muv-Luv series and Ever17. All this aside, you formulated a theory early on, the episode didn't deliver you that theory, you personally preferred your theory to the reality, and so you got burned. That's not my fault. And it's not their fault either. But oh well. Can't be helped. We've all had this experience before. We've all seen stories where, halfway through, we think we know where it's heading. And then it doesn't go there, and we grouse that what we imagined was better than what the creators delivered. Personally, I'm not very keen on your own twist. (It's too strong a twist, to the point of over-the-top cleverness.) But clearly you liked it, and so I guess you have my condolences that you didn't get what you wanted. @Mcsweeney: Perhaps the speech wasn't as great as some of anime's best. But I still think that for a twenty-six minute one shot everything we received was superb. I'll admit: me myself, the young guy's speech is where I tend to lose focus. It's a bit confusing / hard to follow compared with the rest of the writing. The other thing I find very confusing about that scene is: Spoiler: show But like a lot of the unanswered questions in this short, I felt that even that one was handled with class. It's rare for me to so enjoy something that offers such little definitive closure. But Death Billiards does a really classy job with it. It's a shining example in the "leaving it up to interpretation" column, a role model for other stories that seek the same approach to their own endings.
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Given the recent run of twist anime it just felt like a popular choice to surprise an audience. Quote:
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Spoiler: show Incidentally I read Dopple's spoiler text before watching but didn't really register it. I also watched Cronus and Harmonie. Cronus had a cool if cliché concept but felt a little lackluster? Harmonie was pretty nice. A mix between sad and hopeful slice-of-life?
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<3 you all. No one suggested terrible titan show to the newcomer.
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12-28-2014, 07:56 PM | #6669 |
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Won't lie: I too considered recommending both Attack on Titan and Sword Art Online to Myles on the basis of their popularity with 1) his age group and 2) his anime experience group. But I refrained.
Do you hear that, Myles? If you end up watching those shows, you do it on your own time and without any of our approval! @Doppel: Didn't recommend FSN, the most obvious choice for him, to Myles because he said he wants to watch CrunchyRoll stuff and CR doesn't have Studio Deen FSN. In fact, the only things they have are Fate/Zero (which he shouldn't watch with CR anyway, much less before playing FSN first) and FSN Unlimited Blade Works (as in the 2014 series). The latter was another one I considered recommending but ultimately refrained from. The reason being, I didn't think it right to recommend he start off with the middle path. I mean, he could. But he should really probably start with the Fate path, be it via the game or be it (at a bare minimum) via the 2006 Deen anime.
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I have a higher opinion of the 2006 anime than a lot of people these days, and that's not even nostalgia driven. My opinion dimmed over time, but rose up again upon reflection of the current climate of TYPE-MOON fans and audiences interested in TM works.
A lot of them are very easily stereotyped as "if it's not EXACTLY like the original it suxx". It's perhaps a lot more clear cut with Fullmetal Alchemist and the Brotherhood remake, but Akame ga Kill! is great example of why these fans are nothing but dumb and loud. Takahiro wrote an original 'route' for the anime and the manga fans HATED it. On its own merits, it was solid and fun, with some things better than the manga and other things worse. But the tankers of vitriol that sailed into Uraga Harbour was like the rabid ferocity from anti-4Kids One Piece groups from years ago. I thought the internet got more civilized over time as people got older, but stupidity is contagious. DEEN's anime was not perfect, but it also adapted a fairly vanilla route that was also less exciting than the routes that came after it. For someone who knows nothing but shounen aimed at 10-13 year olds, the retooled FSN anime is appropriate for age 14-17. It's very much the ideal "step-up" from the starter anime. I wanted to avoid anything with extremely unusual premises because such shows are not representative of the bulk of anime, so a neophyte would be less interested in following shows season-by-season and only waiting until something gets hyped. That approach locks out a lot of shows that one could potentially get interested in. I agree in full that F/Z and UBW are not ideal choices. They would be easy to impress a newbie, but the full gravity of their quality would be lost. Even re-watches I don't think is a good substitute for having a sense for how anime is supposed to be, then watching that. The true depth of appreciation would be wasted. I dunno how Myles will get the Deen anime, but it's worth noting Rurouni Kenshi was on that CR list when I checked it.
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The lack of FSN on CrunchyRoll is part of the reason I led with the Rozen Maiden recommendation. Rozen Maiden and FSN are both battles royales (or battles royal if you prefer the full Anglicization). Jun and Shirou, Shinku and Saber, the other Rozen Maidens and the other Servants in the Grail War ... it's a crude analogy but it works well enough because they both have similar frameworks. "I want to win the war so I can get the wish-granting vessel that will let me have one free wish." (FSN) "I want to win the war so I can become a real girl." (Rozen Maiden) "I will join with a human medium to win the war." (FSN) "I will join with a human medium to win the war." (Rozen Maiden)
Admittedly, part of it is simply that I adore Rozen Maiden. Part of it is also that I acknowledge that Rozen Maiden isn't an objective 10/10. (See: not wanting to start Myles off on the filets mignons.) And part of it is that I think the show genuinely appeals most strongly to Myles' demographic. I think the merits of the show shine stronger with the anime novice, the demerits bolder to the eye of the anime veteran. I think the premise is more fun for teens and very young adults than for other adults. Etc.
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Yeah, I decided during the convo that "casual friendly" should not be the most important factor for a recommendation. Aren't we better than that? "Attack on Titan" is the recommendation he'd get if he asked this question on Bulbagarden.
My recommendation is Madoka, because I think it has something for everyone. It's 12 episodes of exciting twists with some action, complete with outstanding visuals and music. You might argue that it demands some familiarity with magical girl shows, because it kind of takes some of the genre's cliches and turns them on its ear (like non-threatening monsters of the week), but I don't think it's a big deal, and I'm sure he has SOME level of familiarity with something like Sailor Moon anyway. Speaking of magic wielding girls ... I watched Little Witch Academia and this left a smile on my face. Awesome attention grabbing intro, and they somehow managed to pack a whole epic story into 25 minutes. Did Gainax have anything to do with this? Something about it made me think about them, like the hot blooded female protag, and some of the musical fanfares during the action scenes sounded Gainax-like lol. Spoiler: show
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12-28-2014, 08:53 PM | #6673 |
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That is very funny that you mention Gainax, Mcsweeney. The studio that animated Little Witch Academia is called Trigger. When I told this to a friend in town, he pointed out to me ...
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I thought "casual friendly" was exactly what he wanted. I wouldn't have suggested SAO and Sakurasou otherwise! I almost recommended Kyojin myself, but I decided not to. Though thinking about it, Chaika and Horizon were terrible recommendations for a newcomer.
It seems a plot for Urobuchi Gen's future work has been leaked. Details in the spoiler box! Spoiler: show Yeah, this is mostly a joke, but I bet idol killing will be his next thing. I'm rewatching Cromartie High School right now. I'll jabber on about that when I'm done with it. I also have season 1 of Love Live downloaded, so there's that to watch too. I also decided to watch 3 things simply because of ufotable. Futakoi Alternative, Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight, and Majokko Shimai no Yoyo to Nene. All I know about these shows is that ufotable did them, and a few small things about Manabi Straight. Do I have high expectations for them? I have middling expectations admittedly. Hopefully they won't disappoint! |
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Damn it bbb, I thought that was real and you got my hopes up
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