10-17-2018, 09:43 AM | #201 |
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Honestly, I kind of preferred the 2d sprites to the 3d models. Not because they looked nicer or anything, they just didn't lag the everloving fuck out of battles. They really need to remember that form must follow function, and not vice versa.
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LGPE's capture system is ripped right out of Go, using the Go models upscaled for the Switch. Quote:
GF was at a crossroads after GSC when the fad was starting the slow. Tajiri was mostly done, GF was still small and they had no direction for the next Pokemon games. So they turned to Junichi Masuda, who I credit as making a really good series of games in his directorial debut. But he kept GF small, and insular. What we've seen GF in all of Masuda's games and the overall direction of the company toward Pokemon is hyper conservatism. They're quiet on social media in an era where most people can't shut up. Most of the significant changes were in Ohmori's games, BW2 and SM. Bulbapedia claims that there are 143 employees at GameFreak. For comparison, Activision-Blizzard has 100 people on Team Overwatch. Epic MegaGames' Fortnight has a staff of 4,000+. Pokemon is not an online game that requires constant maintenance and balancing. Heck, they barely do that between generations. There's more than enough staff there to handle the task of bringing Pokemon into the 21st Century, but for whatever reason they've been unable to do just that since DPP, when 3D really should have debut. To Nintendo's credit, they haven't messed with GF in the way Microsoft messed with Bungie. They're not dumb or egotistical. USUM and BW2 combined sold more units than Platinum, Emerald, Crystal and Yellow combined. Masuda's smoke and mirrors managed to add another decade and a half to Pokemon's lease on life. The franchise could have gone the way of Digimon, Power Rangers or Yu-Gi-Oh!. But maybe they should. LGPE reminds me of those obnoxious wii games that VGM was saying he'd teach his grandmother to play. That eventually culminated in the disastrous Wii U and Nintendo was forced to clean up its act. Quote:
vs Elesa (BW2) vs Citron (XY) The graphical difference for the overworld isn't as dramatic as when the battle actually starts. But the poor quality is more evident in XY: facial expressions that change without transition. Rotating around like on a pivot. That didn't look good in 2013 and it still doesn't look now. I've been in this situation before. I hated Quake when it came out and criticized all the 3D fanboys who liked it at the time. It had gameplay inferior to Doom and graphics worse than it. Duke Nukem 3D was looked better than vanilla Quake. People were so excited for what Quake was the beginning of they wouldn't accept that the game (overall) was dumb and the biggest plot twist was ripped out of deathmatch meta. Quote:
But from the overwhelming negative perception of LGPE which is almost exactly this for Pokemon Yellow, 3D graphics is what people say they want, but not what they really want. They want "upgraded" Sinnoh games with improvements they like. It's wishcasting, pure and simple, for a greener pasture than what we're already familiar with. And in that sense the games will never meet expectations because of the widely different things people want out of a remake. Quote:
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10-18-2018, 03:29 AM | #203 |
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ORAS was the game that turned the hand-holding up to 11. You basically got teleported through every backtrack, and halfway through they decided to throw difficulty out the window and gave you a Mega Lati@s and then your starter's mega not long after. It probably doesn't help that as a whole I kind of dislike the Gen 3 mons, but even so the game became ridiculously easy after a point. Also the entire Delta Episode thing was as cutscene-heavy as Melemele, while being more headache inducing because it tries to incorporate parallel worlds and generally overcomplicating the answers to questions nobody asked. Although I will admit the climax of the Delta Episode is arguably the best cutscene we've had in a Pokemon game.
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10-18-2018, 03:42 AM | #204 |
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The Deoxys battle would/should have also had the Ultra Necrozma treatment but it was spoiled ahead of time in pre-release media, and GF gave you a Mega Rayquaza to fight it with. That untrained Mega Rayquaza was already fully capable of 1V1 Deoxys despite having a...10 level disadvantage? Psycho Boost can't OHKO and using it once nerfs Deoxys for the rest of the battle.
Also, it was a living nightmare for competitive players (akin to the Tapu Koko catch in SM) because players who wanted to roll for perfect IVs and a good nature, had to slog through the annoyingly long Delta Episode cutscene for another shot at Deoxys. Ultra Wilds is a good improvement except that it's unsettling that box legendaries tied to the Pokemon World's region, are roaming around in alternate dimensions with no connection to their storyline importance.
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10-24-2018, 08:29 AM | #206 |
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So Meltan's got an evo in Melmetal.
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10-24-2018, 09:49 AM | #207 |
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I'm less annoyed with Meltan getting an evolution (evolving mythicals yay!) and more concerned that spoiling everything in trailers ahead of time is how Nintendo (GameFreak?) is trying to combat data miners.
Pokemon as a franchise is supposed to be about adventure and discovery. By spoiling all (any?) surprises, they're making the actual game as routine as driving to work.
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10-24-2018, 10:45 AM | #208 |
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On one hand, it's yet another Steel Type that evolves by merging with others of its kind (like magnemite, and beldum...). On the other hand, it mixes together via its amorphous body rather than magnetism like the past examples, so guess that's unique enough to get a pass. That name, though... The last pokemon whose name had me this disappointing was bewear, but at least that one was somewhat clever! 'Melmetal' is literally just what happens when you throw a fork into an incinerator, minus a T!
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10-24-2018, 10:37 PM | #209 |
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I'm with you 100% there. This is why I meticulously avoid spoilers on new gens. I want to discover things for myself.
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10-24-2018, 11:23 PM | #210 |
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...Makes me wonder if my attitude will change at all once I'm actually somewhat close to be able to play games near release. I haven't cared about spoiling myself up until now because I haven't been 'on time' with the games since, uh, PMD: Explorers of Time, so these trailers are my sense of discovery. Granted, that didn't make me any less frustrated when they plainly revealed that deoxys was in the Delta Episode, and I facepalmed when they "hinted" at Ultra Necrozma this past season, but those were more for the people who would've been able to discover those things otherwise (and hadn't flocked to the data dump that dropped a few days prior, in Necy's case)...
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10-25-2018, 03:34 AM | #211 |
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Soooo ... it's reported that Melmetal can only be obtained via Pokémon Go. (More specifically, by grinding 400 Meltan into PoGo candies.) I'm okay with this if a) it's only for the interregnum between Gens 7 and 8 or else b) Meltan and Melmetal are LGPE exclusives who won't count towards the "real" PokéDex list. Any other answer requires the continued existence of Pokémon Go.
This is Manaphy all over again ...
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10-28-2018, 04:46 AM | #212 |
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There's a Gen VIII "leak" on /vp/.
Since the LGPE leak happened in a similar format, also on that board, this one feels real unlike the multitude of really bad ideas fronted in the past. So, I'm going to risk looking like a fool and posting it here. The names are Spoiler: show Spoiler: show
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10-28-2018, 07:19 AM | #213 |
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Why I think it's real:
The Smash Bros. leak, which is real, confirms that anyone who has a marketing relationship with Nintendo gets access to the promotional materials months in advance. The leaker mentioned that they're watching LGPE to get an idea on how to market the next series of games, and that we won't see anything until Winter 2019. Smash's leak also showed that you absolutely cannot trust anyone out there with a name. YouTube celebs, gaming news outlets, and bloggers are all calling the Smash leak fake. Nobody believes that noise. The establishment is still maintaining that Incineroar is a Smash rep without clarifying that he's DLC (thus, not lying), as if to try and misdirect attention away from the leak. It's all smoke, mirrors and damage control. So anonymous leaks can be much more trustworthy if you trust your own judgment of the content. When you watch the final product videos of these Pokemon trailers, they usually hit on the new features in a telegram-like, bullet pointed manner. This post, like the LGPE leak, is similar in that the leaker conveys limited first hand experience, and is repeating advertising points from someone with firsthand knowledge. The LGPE leak only gave information that went into the trailer, which leads me to think that the most likely leakers are those with marketing access. We also know that GF is constrained by the challenges of 3D gaming, so expecting franchise-defining changes is going to be pie-in-the-sky unrealistic. They're also unrestrained by fanon, like: Spoiler: show I was firmly adamant there won't be a Pokemon game in 2019. But that was my own opinion, not a law that GF has to obey. So I have to have an open mind if that view is challenged. Similarly, the above reasons I gave are terrible, non-binding justification for "debunking" this theme. Due not confuse fan theories as countenance for legitimacy. So if we look past that, there's a lot in here that is consistent with GF behaviour, and it's conservative. Nothing mind-blowing exciting. But nothing mind numbingly irritating, unlike LGPE.
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Rest of reply in spoiler tag, I suppose. Spoiler: show I would say, take it with a grain of salt. (1) The choice of region, (2) the choice of animals for the starters, and (3) the specific details provided and withheld ... all of it feels like it's made to cater very specifically to the fans. In a way that, *sigh* , I feel like Game Freak would not. If it is real though, then cool, let's go! Region has massive potential for richness, and fire starter all the way.
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11-01-2018, 09:35 AM | #216 |
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Sooo...the Grinch leak was proven fake by the direct that aired earlier today.
Just in case anyone cares, Spoiler: show This doesn't look good for me with regard to endorsing that Gen VIII leak...but I'll stand by it. Smash's success is going to be compared against LGPE anyway, so this is a pretty significant development.
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11-06-2018, 12:42 AM | #217 |
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Trademark leak.
Wait, this might be another clever fake. Witholding.
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I don't care for Sabrina's redesign. It looks like her FRLG artwork, and while not as utterly repulsive as the HGSS, it doesn't beat the anime's design where she's wearing a Communist China uniform.
The visual imagery is very strong - "authoritarian". Psychic was the strongest G1 type, so it's a good way to intimidate the viewer/player. I guess I should credit LGPE for pulling designs from all different Pokemon media, but it didn't pull the best designs.
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I can't get behind the Lance redesign. The Lance I know is an adult. This Lance looks like a literal child.
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I think it's only certain shots / angles / artwork. In others he looks fine. I think it's just the combination of his character design (i.e. "that which visually makes Lance Lance") and the LGPE artstyle (with the shortened heights). Like ...
I don't think anyone has a problem with FRLG Brock vs. HGSS Brock, even though planting the two side by side quickly reveals their different design approaches that transcend differences in the character's age and height. You look at FRLG Brock and you think "Okay, that's normal. That's a drawing-approximation of what a real person might look like." Same idea with HGSS Brock. But even without planting LGPE Brock next to either of the other two, your brain might notice that something is off. And planting him right beside the other two, you quickly cannot unsee it -- LGPE's character designs look like a dwarfism reimagining of the canon characters. LGPE Brock looks like what normal Brock would look like had he dwarfism. LGPE Erika looks either like normal Erika with dwarfism or else like normal Erika when she was only 8 years old: Does she not look like a child? And LGPE Lance suffers the same fate: the reason you guys think he looks like a child ... isn't because Game Freak retconned Lance to be younger in LGPE, but is simply a consequence of the entire LGPE character design format. Lance doesn't have the hardened face of Bruno or the grandma features of Agatha. He has always had a 20s-40s man's face and a hair cut that is shared in manga character designs between male children and adults. Make his stature really short and voilŕ: you get At least, that's my take on it for right now. If it's revealed that they did indeed retcon Lance to be a fellow kid, just ... ugh. Stahp.
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11-08-2018, 02:38 PM | #222 |
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WOW that artwork. Brock is supposed to be 14. He maybe looks like that in FRLG, but is clearly older in HGSS. But his LGPE art makes him look like 30+!
Another problem with Lance is that attitudes have changed since his Gen I uniform. In 1998, spiky hair + cape was considered cool looking. Now, it's stereotyped as chunnibyou accessories.
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That Erika cannot be any older than seven gamefreak what the fuck
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Pikachu uses Double Kick in LGPE (skip to 5m37s on mobile)
Spoiler: show Showcasing LGPE's nature-fixing feature (skip to 15m50s on mobile) Spoiler: show
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Judging by the wording used by the commentator, i'm expecting the nature thing to be a 100% for as long as it lasts.
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