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You are so much fail condensed into a single poster I think you should be rewarded with a username composed entirely of capital letters.
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[insert image macro of trucker pointing at and laughing at a doctor reading the Wall Street Journal, doing so from the middle of the street and about to be mowed down by an oncoming semi-truck driven, naturally, by none other than a fellow trucker]
The caption should read "LAWL, YOU PHAIL SO HARD! I IZ BETTER THAN--" And it should be Figure 1 under the Oxford List of Not-So-Famous Persons listing for "ZoraJolteon."
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Then suddenly the truck transforms into Optimus Prime, and he declares heroically
"FREEDOM IS THE RIGHT OF ALL SENTIENT BEINGS. EXCEPT VRAN, FOR BEING SO WRONG."
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In terms of design...
In all honesty, I probably prefer RSE overall, but in a lot of these match-ups, I prefer GSC. Maybe that's just my sense of nostalgia talking, but I think that Johto's 'mon are truly unique and shouldn't be thrown to the wayside because they're simpler than the newer ones. >the generation that gave us the Unown >_> I liked the idea of Unown. It was fun to collect them and translate the text. >the generation that gave us Smeargle. Useful but ugly back in the day. Nowadays he's not quite so useful (despite what his cult-like followers might insist) and he's still one of the ugliest humanshape Pokemon ever designed. However, he's the best breeder in the game. You can't deny that as useful. >How many worthless side-evolutions did GSC waste our precious Pokedex entries on? We only received 100 new slots total with this generation, and yet precious positions were wasted on Slowking and Politoed with the King's Rock. Bah. I like, and in fact, prefer Slowking and Politoed over their alt. evos. >Delibird? I like Santabird. D< >Need I go on? Oh, fine -- Gligar, Dunsparce, Shuckle, Yanma -- how many worthless monsters did we get with zero evolutions and zero coolness or cuteness to them? Gligar and Yanma both got evos, and pretty cool ones at that. Anyways, I like Yanma. ># Torchic and Mudkip, two of the franchise's most beloved starters # Blaziken and Swampert, two of the franchise's most beloved final evolutions for starters Show me some proof of this and I'll consider your argument. >Or picture how cute Surskit and how intriguing Masquerain look. And compare them now with Ledyba and Ledian. -_-; I thought the boxing ladybug thing was sorta cool (though I liked Masquerain/Surskit just as much). > Remember Corphish and Crawdaunt? You may think they're sort of ugly and sort of useless, but how do they compare against Remoraid and Octillery in the looks department, hmm? Personally, I thought the Pistol Fish/Octopus Canon visual pun was creative. Crawdaunt/Corpish seem sort of overkill/way too "IRL copycat" to me. >I mean ... it's no contest. lol I generally would support an RSE-supporter in this type of thing but I really did like Jotho design-wise and think that it deserves a chance. It's often thrown to the wayside because it's not as flashy, but I think something can be said for its simple, down-to-earth monsters and its unique ideas that we haven't seen replicated since. Most Pokemon of later generations are so highly stylized that they seem to lose their sense of what they were, and some of the RBY Pokemon are so literal, they don't seem much like Pokemon. I think GSC captured a good blend of the two, exaggerating in some ways while still keeping a good sense of what the Pokemon was supposed to be. |
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"Nothing justifies genocide"
"But Vran was being really wrong." "Oh, carry on then."
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For it to be genocide, you'd need to qualify as human in the first place. :P I'm afraid sleepy, grouchy kitties like myself don't count. Nor do your kind. :P
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That's about as much of your reverse-nostalgia goggles and cognitive dissonance that I can take for the moment. I mean, how the fuck do you complain about "worthless side evolutions" in G/S/C and defend--of all fucking things--HUNTAIL and still manage to keep a straight face? How do you mock G/S/C for its collection of worthless-as-shit single evos and still defend a generation that had way more than its fair share of them (Spinda/Kecleon/Castform/Luvdisc)?
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Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Mudkip: 2, 1 GSC. At least you gave it to Chikorita, unlike Jeri. wtf Jeri. Ho-Oh is much cooler looking than Groudon, though Groudon is decent looking. Kyogre is buttugly, but usable, while Lugia is awesome looking and usable. Jirachi over Celebi ten times out of ten. 4-2 GSC. Tyranitar is metabreaking and coo', and should be your comparison with Metagross, not Salamence, I'd give it to t-tar over 'gross. 5-2 GSC Legendary dogs are superior to legendary braille. 8-2 GSC. You seriously cherry pick your comparisons in the "Random 'mon with nothing to do with eachother" category that comes next. How about picking some actual comparable GSC pokes? Allow me to suggest better comparisons, as I cruise on through. Swap Slowking for Espeon, pure psychic comparison. I'd give it to 'voir over Slowking, but Espeon over Garde. I have no idea why you picked Dunsparce for your comparison. Just wanted to find a place to put the worst 'mon of the gen? How about comparing Dunsparce to the also ugly, useless, and hard to find Nosepass? On further thought, I can see why you'd want to give Ninjask a bye, to avoid a matchup with Heracross, GSC's premier bug. Dunsparce over Nosepass, Heracross over Ninjask. Claydol is thoroughly unattractive, and though it's fairly unusable, Stantler is much cooler. A better comparison would be Claydol/Quagsire or Claydol/Steelix. Root fossil = Electric sheep? Ok. Ampharos is infinitely better than Cradily. Better comparison would be a straight bug/rock brawl, Shuckle and Armaldo. I'd give that one to Armaldo at least. Togetic and Milotic? The iconic Marill would be a better comparison, but I'd give it to the GSCer in either case. Huntail vs. Sunflora. They're both terrible. Sunflora looks much less full of DERP though. Quote:
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But I don't even see why this has to be about beating anybody at all. You lot badmouthed RSE first, so I figured that was an invitation to badmouth GSC. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." I've got a million of these, but they all boil down to the same basic message: it's not about playing nice -- it's about playing fair. Go right ahead and punch me in the gut. In fact, you already did it! That's why I felt it'd only be fair to punch back. But now you want to cry foul? Bad form! Bad form indeed. Your sarcasm is my reality: if a Pokémon can only find use on doubles teams, that hardly qualifies it as being useful from a battle POV. But way to conjure up a straw man out of thin air! Let's take a fairer look at what I said, shall we? Quote:
How you take a criticism of his looks and transform it into my being uninformed about the DPP metagame I have no idea ... or so I'd like to say. Unfortunately, you and I both know that you're guilty of the most embarrassing gaffe in a debate.
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Just for the record, I use Smeagle on my competitive team, and he rocks the house.
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Nothing Mt. Doom can't fix.
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S'what I call him, because he shows you the way... to victory ;o
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Vran, as charty as your chart is, c'mon. Some of your pairs are REALLY strange. Metagross - Houndoom WTF?
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>Spinda/Kecleon/
HEY! >Your sarcasm is my reality: if a Pokémon can only find use on doubles teams, that hardly qualifies it as being useful from a battle POV. But way to conjure up a straw man out of thin air! Let's take a fairer look at what I said, shall we? There's a very good reason why Smeargle is listed as OU on Smogon. With access to moves like Spore, it's a pretty deadly support 'mon when played right.
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. . . This was kinda taken a little too far, huh? No one was really bashing the RSE Pokémon at first... I know I said something along the lines of most being okay. However both GS and RS clearly have their goods and bads. Every gen does. Basically, my main point personally is that Gen 3 was pretty much a let down Pokegame, since the region sucked and it didn't carry on GS's torch with some of GS's newer and important features (multiregions, night/day, etc), and there was a rather poor plot line.
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Pfft, you already grabbed a torch and followed us to the monster's lair, don't back out now. DEATH TO RU/SA!
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BUT DEATH TO DP BEFOREHAND!
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AND MAYBE TO HEY YOU PIKACHU IF WE FIND TIME ON THE WAY!
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BUT HE GOT ANGRY WHEN YOU SAID "PLAYSTATION". THAT'S COMEDY GENIUS RIGHT THERE.
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I BET HE WOULDN'T CARE IF YOU SAID XBOX TO HIM. NOW LOOK AT THEM.
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Funny, I think DPP is the spiritual successor to GSC, whereas RSE was the very same to RBY. And here you are: calling for DPP's head!
Funnier still: which generation brought us Mamoswine? No matter, I suppose. "Death to DP!" he says, and death to DP he shall have. ;)
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