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Old 10-27-2020, 06:06 PM   #476
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Regieleki is faster than most of the relevant Choice Scarf users. It's actually unreal how fast it is and Transistor is such a good ability (+1 boost on using an Electric move, it's not actually Adaptability) that it ends up not having low power. Thunder Cage is also a super strong move that will likely see play on Eleki as a new substitute for Dugtrio.
+1 252+ SpA Choice Specs Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 40 SpD Kommo-o: 208-246 (58.7 - 69.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Tapu Koko Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 40 SpD Kommo-o in Electric Terrain: 143-169 (40.3 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

It does hit harder than I thought, although needing to use an Electric move makes it super easy to just switch to a Ground-type or a Volt Absorber. Koko is still all-around better though, since the Rising Voltage doesn't require much investment to 2HKO most things.

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Calyrex-IR is actually an Ubers level Pokemon. Native access to Trick Room and having immense bulk along with 160 base Attack and a 130 BP Ice move means its actually really dangerous. It's more balanced in Ubers thanks to Kyogre and better Ice resists but it's actually just too strong thanks to its massive bulk, imo.
Maybe in VGC but not in Smogon. I (and most of the OU council) don't believe Melmetal is a real Uber, it's just a quirk of the format that makes Melmetal too strong. And with Calyrex-IR you essentially have an Ice-type Melmetal with +80 SpD and native Trick Room.

That said I probably exaggerated and used Darm-G as the baseline for competitive Ice types. I don't think Glastrier is bad necessarily, but it's a Kyurem-B/Kyurem situation where the higher BST form will probably take over OU duties.

I would be legit surprised if something that slow managed to stick to OU. It has 2 resistances and a buttload of common weaknesses, albeit no disastrous x4 ones.
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Old 10-27-2020, 06:11 PM   #477
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Koko doesn't get Rising Voltage.
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Old 10-27-2020, 06:35 PM   #478
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Lele didn't get Expanding Force either?
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Nope, none of the Tapus got their respective Terrain moves.

In one of the most stunning intelligent moves GF has made
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Old 10-27-2020, 07:38 PM   #480
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Intelligent would have been not creating those moves in the first place. If anything, I feel more disgusted, because it means they're blatantly trying to push the new product.

It hasn't escaped my notice that the new legendaries also have close to 80 SpA. That's close the 'efficient' spread for 680 BST. I don't like the idea Pokemon is going the way of YGO in the worst gen of all time.
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Old 02-27-2021, 03:52 AM   #481
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Hey friends, I hear there are new Pokemon games, but I don't really know the details. Anyone want to talk about them and give impressions?

Will Gen 8 be finally saved after two long years of suffering?!
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:44 AM   #482
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First off, gen 8 didn't really need saving. SwSh were nowhere near as dire as people keep making them out to be.

And yes they announced DP remakes. Overworld art style's a little jarring but it's fine given the similarity to the original sprites they inevitably worked from.
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Old 02-27-2021, 06:08 AM   #483
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First off, gen 8 didn't really need saving. SwSh were nowhere near as dire as people keep making them out to be.
Smogon seems to disagree, from what I can tell on their forums Gen 8 is the most hated and least played meta in Pokemon history.

I've been kind of removed from Gen 8 for almost a year now so I don't know what's going on outside of banlist updates!

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And yes they announced DP remakes. Overworld art style's a little jarring but it's fine given the similarity to the original sprites they inevitably worked from.
Is it a straight 1:1 remake with gimmicks like ORAS?
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Old 02-27-2021, 07:23 AM   #484
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Smogon, nobody gives a shit. Just because the comp scene sucks doesn't mean the games are bad.

As for the remakes, it looks to be almost a blend. Mostly DP but there's some bits they've shown that are from Plat so... Meh, we'll see. No sign of megas, Z moves or gigantamax yet.
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Old 02-27-2021, 03:49 PM   #485
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What about the Arceus thing?
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The Arceus thing is open-world Pokemon, set in ancient Sinnoh. Starter options are Rowlet, Cyndaquil and Oshawott.

...That's basically all we know.
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That sounds a whole lot cooler than DPP remakes.

Finally, something exciting!

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So open world is retro again huh?
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:59 AM   #488
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idk about "retro". More like "BotW was a huge hit so everything's looking to that now".
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Old 02-28-2021, 11:35 AM   #489
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Well, I consider Gold/Silver to be "open world" in that once you get to a certain point, the game sandboxes and you can do whatever. Even just hang out, hit the weekly dates and breed.

Oh man, that sounds really wrong.

Back in the day it was pseudo open world, and later games became much more railroady. Though the term for "open world" was more, "emergent gameplay" i.e. wasting time by messing around in the game without beating the main quests.
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