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... We couldn't walk on this planet (un-aided - do we have the technology to reduce gravity?), but still, it's all the more reason to INVEST IN OUTER SPACE...first we get the asteroid belt for more new raw materials, then we can finally conquer the galactic stage!
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04-25-2007, 02:29 AM | #3 |
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I don't doubt for a minute that this planet isn't inhabitable. If people weren't crushed by the gravity, they'd freeze and possibly fry, or suffocate. The materials on the planet are likely better used for terra-forming something a little closer to home, like Mars.
Then again, we should conquer Europa before moving on beyond our solar system, and hit the asteroid belt before that - if we get the ball rolling, we could be in for quite a fun future in the next couple reincarnations. ;)
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04-25-2007, 08:48 AM | #4 |
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Wouldn't the heavy gravity be hard on your heart?
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Arrogance? Hardly. All known life is carbon based, and only carbon can form complex compounds the way it does. If anything, it is a reasonable assumption.
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Although there's something to be said for the very limited number of atoms on the Periodic Table which react in so many ways as carbon does, I think that what dami is trying to suggest is that life is ultimately "an entity in homeostasis in the midst of an ever-fluctuating world" and that there's more than one way to achieve homeostasis in open systems. To put it into perspective ... just because all PCs on the planet have a silicon microprocessor doesn't mean that that was the only option available at the dawn of time. Computers could have had gallium, or arsenic, or germanium processors. Instead, they use silicon. Because it simply happened, and all computers ever since have been the same way.
Could you argue that "silicon is used because it is the best"? Yes. But could Dami argue that "best" is a relative term which changes depending on what the test conditions are? Absolutely. For instance, if the operating temperature the first computer was built to withstand was 100 degrees above the melting point of silicon, it would hardly have made for a "good candidate." Goodness is relative.
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I really don't appreciate being labeled as "arrogant" either. Anyone who knows me knows that I am very open-minded and forward-thinking when it comes to the definition of "life". Hell, I even consider beings such as Data and Chii to be fully alive, even though they don't have a single living cell in their body, simply because they are self-aware beings. I'm just having trouble seeing, scientifically, how biological life could be anything other than carbon-based. Arrogance has nothing to do with it. |
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Iron-56 is the most stable isotope... That is how existence will end, with everything going to that.
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04-26-2007, 01:14 PM | #11 |
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Since that museum is being opened in Kentucky, well that state already bleeds with anti evolution super bible fanatics anyways, so it is only inevitable that they'd create a 'proper christian' museum.
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I've been waiting for this for a while now. I don't know why people are all "We're totally going to land humans here." Because we'd have to Defy Gravity to even think about living the moment we got in its orbit. Nifty though. The potential of finding extraterrestrial life is bitchin'. |
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Talon, atoms from unstable isotopes to stable isotopes. Stable isotopes are difficult to make unstable. That's the logic behind it. While SYSTEMS may go to disorder, atoms, not so much.
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