The Secret Time Out Files Part 1: The Slowpoke years

[EpicSquirtle]

Originally Posted by jolteonjak

Does anyone know if a Gen V Ghost Curse affects a Normal Type? I haven't tested it yet...mostly because I don't have any Ghost types with Curse.

Curse is a status move so it will affect normal types.

[jolteonjak]

Perfect. Just what I was hoping for! I need an artist now.

[Talon87]

Originally Posted by EpicSquirtle

Curse is a status move so it will affect normal types.

That's not quite right. Thunder Wave is a status move too yet it obviously has no effect on Ground types. Toxic is a status move but it has no effect against Steel types. Etc. So I wouldn't say that it's being a status move is what explains why it works the way that it does.

Curse is strange though in that if it targeted the user then it ought not to work on Normal types in Gen 5, but it does, and if it targeted the opponent then a Ghost type shouldn't be able to use Curse against a Normal type, but I'm pretty sure they can. So rather than thinking of Curse as a move which targets the user or the opponent, I guess instead we should think of it as a move programmed with some very specific and special circumstances. *shrug*

Anyway, to answer jolteonjak's question, Curse does still work when a Normal type uses it. I've had a Curselax on Pokémon-Online for well over a year now and they tend to only allow legal movesets, so ...

[jolteonjak]

Originally Posted by EpicSquirtle

Curse is a status move so it will affect normal types.

Originally Posted by Talon87

That's not quite right. Thunder Wave is a status move too yet it obviously has no effect on Ground types. Toxic is a status move but it has no effect against Steel types. Etc. So I wouldn't say that it's being a status move is what explains why it works the way that it does.

Curse is strange though in that if it targeted the user then it ought not to work on Normal types in Gen 5, but it does, and if it targeted the opponent then a Ghost type shouldn't be able to use Curse against a Normal type, but I'm pretty sure they can. So rather than thinking of Curse as a move which targets the user or the opponent, I guess instead we should think of it as a move programmed with some very specific and special circumstances. *shrug*

Anyway, to answer jolteonjak's question, Curse does still work when a Normal type uses it. I've had a Curselax on Pokémon-Online for well over a year now and they tend to only allow legal movesets, so ...

Are you both referring to the when a Ghost type uses Curse against a Normal type (takes half the ghost's HP to drain 1/4 the victim's HP)?

[EpicSquirtle]

Originally Posted by jolteonjak

Are you both referring to the when a Ghost type uses Curse against a Normal type (takes half the ghost's HP to drain 1/4 the victim's HP)?

Yes I am referring to the ghost version of curse.

[Talon87]

I don't think I could have been any clearer. In Paragraph 2, I am talking about both scenarios. I am talking about a Gen 5 Ghost using Curse against a Gen 5 Normal-type target, and I am also talking about a Gen 5 Normal type using Curse to boost its own stats. In Paragraph 3, I am talking just about Gen 5 Normal types using Curse to boost their own stats.

[Escalion]

How about keeping it simple?
Ghost-curse works on Normal-types because it has always been a ???-type move.
In Gen V they only changed the type of the move. Not the mechanics, none of them.
And that's why Normal-types are not immune.

So basically, the move is like hidden-power or struggle, which also hit Ghost Pokémon even though the moves are officially Normal.

[Talon87]

Originally Posted by Escalion

How about keeping it simple?
Ghost-curse works on Normal-types because it has always been a ???-type move.
In Gen V they only changed the type of the move. Not the mechanics, none of them.
And that's why Normal-types are not immune.

The problem is, your "keeping it simple" has instead produced a wrong conclusion. According to you, in Gen 2 it was a ???-type move (correct); and that this typing was the reason it hit Normals (Assumption #1); and that none of the mechanics were changed when it came to Gen 5 (Assumption #2). But we know that both of these assumptions cannot be correct. It has to be only one or the other. Either the mechanics were changed, or else you're wrong for thinking that the ??? typing of the move had anything to do with why it hit Normals.

[jolteonjak]

Originally Posted by Talon87

I don't think I could have been any clearer. In Paragraph 2, I am talking about both scenarios. I am talking about a Gen 5 Ghost using Curse against a Gen 5 Normal-type target, and I am also talking about a Gen 5 Normal type using Curse to boost its own stats. In Paragraph 3, I am talking just about Gen 5 Normal types using Curse to boost their own stats.

I followed up until you mentioned your own Curselax. And that's where I got confused. =\

[Talon87]

Originally Posted by jolteonjak

I followed up until you mentioned your own Curselax. And that's where I got confused. =\

That was where I got confused myself: I was writing the reply by phone and got a bit lost in my own thoughts, forgetting that you were asking about B and not A. Still, when you asked me what I was talking about, I think it was pretty clear. ^^; Both A and B in Par 2, and then A in Par 3.

[jolteonjak]

Sorry about that. Thank you Talon. Thank you EpicSquirtle.

[lilboocorsola]

Originally Posted by Marion Ette

Battles have always been my RP kryptonite, whether I'm writing updates involving a Pokemon battle or participating in one myself. I'm not sure why it's so hard for me to conceptualize battles as opposed to every other RP situation I've encountered, but I've avoided PASBL for precisely this reason (and because I'm not much of a battler). That said, I'm hoping to overcome that weakness in my upcoming battle with lilblue.

I find describing Attacks themselves tend to get pretty tedious, so I focus more on the reactions to them, if that helps. I'm not much of a Battler either. Bringing Waffle (Rotom-H) and Blue (Drifloon) along also gives me more opportunity to bounce off them.

Oh, and to answer the earlier question about having trouble RPing my trainer, my character used to be a goodie-two-shoes who literally wore a Corsola gown... I found her difficult/tiresome to portray though so I changed her to be more realistic (i.e. myself).

[Marion Ette]

You should do what I do! Turn your starter into a trainer character and give her one of the most insane storylines in FB history! On second thought, maybe that's a terrible idea. XD Eh, I love RPing Coselle anyway, even if she's a complete loon. After all, I'M a complete loon, myself... I just hide it better.

[lilboocorsola]

Originally Posted by Marion Ette

You should do what I do! Turn your starter into a trainer character and give her one of the most insane storylines in FB history! On second thought, maybe that's a terrible idea. XD Eh, I love RPing Coselle anyway, even if she's a complete loon. After all, I'M a complete loon, myself... I just hide it better.

I can't imagine Custard as a human... Heck, I don't think I could stand to hear his complaints if he could talk.

>v> *throws Icy Rock*

[Marion Ette]

I imagine Custard looking exactly like Santa Claus, only with a really pointy nose. XD

[OkikuMew]

Max as a human? Hmmm, that would be interesting... He would actually make a good boyfriend for Okiku, if Okiku was part Pokémon or Max turned fully human


In completely different news, I'm not a jewellery kind of person, but I think I found the perfect and most cutest ring for me... *-*

[uhhhhh]

>human Gaspard

Eh... it would be interesting I suppose. I can imagine him as a little kid tagging along with Connor. XD

[Missingno. Master]

Gemini as a human... The only thing I know about a human version of a Weezing is that he would have two heads. It's pretty tough to imagine.

[Balmund]

Human Orchrist. *points to art thread*

I'm not sure how differently she would be if she actually transformed. It would probably be ridiculously awkward since she has spent the entirety of her life without limbs at all. Arms and legs are alien to her, and I can easily imagine her struggling to effectively move as her spine just isn't the same anymore and the rest just gets in the way, which would be incredibly irritating.

That, and stuff like the need to wear clothes (really humans, why *do* you wear them?), human language, feeding (I have to actually chew my food now? Can't I just dislodge my jaw and swallow it whole like I always do?), and other stuff. I'm not sure I'll find myself RPing all of that, but I guess that's an idea for sometime. I had this adventure idea where I would effectively have the Trainer become the Pokémon and the Pokémon become the Trainer, and then see what happens from there. Would be interesting to see how would something like that develop.

[EpicSquirtle]

Sparky as a human..... Quite interesting. I could imagine him being a small kid who's very timid and hangs with Jake because he looks up to him and likes adventures.

[Sneaze]

Joe as a human... would probably look very similar to my character and be even more of a prick.

[CyberBlastoise]

Silver as a human...honestly, I'd imagine him as a sort of monk who prefers to wait and strike at the right time. And he'd probably try to convince Bill to think things more through than just to charge head first like he's been doing in the past 3 areas.

[jolteonjak]

Astoria updates will be posted on Tuesday (my tomorrow)! I just want to take a few minutes and proofread.

[Gemini Spark]

Sera as a human... pretty frail looking, but beautiful beyond compare. Plus psychic powers! =D

[Marion Ette]

Originally Posted by Gemini Spark

Sera as a human... pretty frail looking, but beautiful beyond compare. Plus psychic powers! =D

Y'know, Coselle could set you up with some humans and a needle and get that goin' for you in a jiffy... There's just one lit-tle thing you need to give in re-turn... *Holds palms beneath Hyrem's eyes*

> Starter Pokemon as a human

Coselle. There's your answer. XD