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Old 08-22-2011, 12:09 AM   #76
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I think we all got emp's point, btw, Loki.
And yet everyone took it as a challenge and named their favorite Pokemon.

Also, you clearly have never known of Morgoth's Weedle, Metapod, and Magikarp. Although that's PASBL territory only.

Escavalier looks fine as a knight-esque Pokemon. Accelgor is extremely questionable in appearance.
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:11 AM   #77
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I wanted to see if there were, in fact, 2 complete counters to Clefable xD
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:47 AM   #78
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> Magnezone says hi! Oh, and Magcargo.

Name your favourite Pokémon then and I bet I can name at least two Pokémon it can't put a hit on. Just because two pretty bad Pokémon counter its stab typings doesn't mean it doesn't have other uses.
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Swampert (shuts down fire or electric offensive, shrugs off Focus Blast)
Kingdra (lol)

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For Swampert, if one could get in a good Solar Beam, only if it the first move was Solar Beam, but that's pretty much it. Kingdra, That's pretty much everyone who doesn't learn a dragon move. -.-"
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:08 AM   #79
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For Swampert, if one could get in a good Solar Beam, only if it the first move was Solar Beam, but that's pretty much it. Kingdra, That's pretty much everyone who doesn't learn a dragon move. -.-"
Or who's name is not Ferrothorn or Empoleon. :P
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:23 AM   #80
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Clefable.
Bulky fighting types like Hariyama and Hitmontop can take a SE hit from Clefable (not that people run Psychic) whilst
it usually can't take one back.
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Old 08-22-2011, 09:27 AM   #81
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Bulky fighting types like Hariyama and Hitmontop can take a SE hit from Clefable (not that people run Psychic) whilst
it usually can't take one back.
If not, Dusknoir works pretty good, or Eviolite Dusclops. Basically anything with a good amount of bulk can take a few hits from Clefable and respond with a few good ones.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:02 PM   #82
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But going back to the topic of least favorite pokemon, I always thought the Vanilite a stupid idea. Really? Ice cream?
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:03 PM   #83
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But going back to the topic of least favorite pokemon, I always thought the Vanilite a stupid idea. Really? Ice cream?
PERMABAN UPON SOUL!!!!!!! That is the best line ever, as Stu will back me up on.
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:46 PM   #84
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But going back to the topic of least favorite pokemon, I always thought the Vanilite a stupid idea. Really? Ice cream?
See, I hated most of the Vanilite line (except for vanilite himself; he has potential and is adorbs.), and then it just went full circle until I appreciated the derp.

edit: i'm actually pretty sure that happened to a few people.
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Old 08-22-2011, 08:26 PM   #85
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PERMABAN UPON SOUL!!!!!!! That is the best line ever, as Stu will back me up on.
Ban? You wanna talk ban? I SAY WE BAN YOU NOW, TROLL!

The vanilla ice cream cone is NOT EVEN RECOGNIZED by the Church of Talon as an official Pokémon. It is so bad, SO retarded in concept and design, SO offensive to the memory of what made Pokemon so great in the late 1990s, that to say it's one of the best Pokemon ever just proves that YOU ARE THE ANTI-CHRIST-KETCHUM!

... you know, I'm starting to think this is an alt of Blast's and he's just having fun toying with me. The words coming out of your mouth are just ri-goddamn-diculous.

Xander, I've no idea why you've decided to add "Butt" to the end of your name but I'll definitely back you up on this one.
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Old 08-22-2011, 08:43 PM   #86
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He's not Blast :x
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Old 08-22-2011, 10:07 PM   #87
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If he casts Vile Hex on you, we will know for sure.
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Old 08-22-2011, 10:21 PM   #88
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The vanilla line looks exceptionally lame. I'd offer leeway if it were useful at least but.. ung. It's no dunsparce, that's for sure.
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:10 AM   #89
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Magnezone says hi! Oh, and Magcargo.
I might be slightly biased to less of a competitive standpoint. And more of a ASB standpoint.
Joltik I said has the cute factor, but Galvantula is ugly. Ugly like Gastrodon ugly. I love Accelgor and Escalvier, because they are more better looking, and they Escalvier has one of the best typings. And who says four resistences is good, anyway? Magnezone with Magnet Rise says hi again.
Galvantula is still pretty badass ASBwise.

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>likes Accelgor and Escavalier
I'm surprised nobody picked up on him liking the fugliest bugs ever. Dustox is leagues higher on the visual scale compared to these two.
I dunno I think these two are a'ite.

The ice cream line, much like the garbage line, makes me despair a little bit.

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Nah, Blasts actually pretty good at ASB. Blaze is obviously an actual new guy rather than fake alt new guy.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:22 AM   #90
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But going back to the topic of least favorite pokemon, I always thought the Vanilite a stupid idea. Really? Ice cream?
Yeah, I despaired when I saw that pokemon line, along with the garbage line, and the genies, and the un-bug-looking eschivalier.


Also, Foongus Amoongus? Seriously? My dad makes that stupid joke.. Two of the worst names ever for a pokemon.
Unless they change the lore so that it cruelly preys on unsuspecting young trainers, it's pokeball design is, a failed evolution trait..
Though it would be interesting to use it as a surprise when a trainer attempts to pick up a pokeball item.
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:24 AM   #91
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I also don't like Zebstrika.
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Old 08-23-2011, 09:47 AM   #92
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The sad part about the icecream line is that it was designed by an American...

EDIT: Correction: He's British! America is saved!

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Old 08-23-2011, 09:55 AM   #93
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Another hate coming your way. Jellicent. I like Frillish a lot, but Jellicent is just ugly.

Ash should have gotten a Frillish. He would have ruled the world the world with it.
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:34 AM   #94
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Nationality doesn't matter. I care more about the age. A kid? Rage at GameFREAK for allowing a child to dictate canon. Kids already ruin the PTCG with their shitty fanart but who cares? It's the PTCG. But allowing a child to invent new Pokemon? Every child's dream, maybe, but inappropriate because children are dumb. And if it was an adult who designed the ice cream cone, the snow globe head, or The Fugliest Pokemon Ever a.k.a. Security Cone Gothic? Then that adult should be ridiculed, punished, and fired, never to disgrace Pokemon with their shitty design concepts ever again.
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:49 AM   #95
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Sorry, he is a fully grown adult working as a programmer for GameFreaks. Not a child. I know. It's hard to grasp. Look him up on Bulbapedia.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:58 AM   #97
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They've always made dumb things like magnets and moles without bodies so I embraced and grew to love the ice cream and trash bag. Plus that guy made up for the ice cream by designing Golurk. I think he designed Mandibuzz as well, which is pretty cool.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:27 PM   #98
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I don't care for any of those. >_> Mandibuzz is the only one that looks like a Pokemon but it looks like an ugly one. Golurk looks like the three-way love child of Sableye, the Michelin Man, and a square coin with engravings. Don't like it. Doesn't help that I've no strong impressions of it from P-O battles. Coulda been nice if he were at least like a Ghost-type Steelix, but as it is, he's the posterchild of 5th Gen UU. And like with pretty much any UU creature, if you don't play UU and if you don't already like him for superficial reasons (in-game Story Mode team member, looks, etc), then you're never gonna like 'im.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:33 PM   #99
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Though it would be interesting to use it as a surprise when a trainer attempts to pick up a pokeball item.
Just want to point out first gen already did this with Voltorb. =|
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:37 PM   #100
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I also don't like Zebstrika.
That line should not exist either IMO. A Zebra would have made a better Dark, Normal, fire, or psychic type pokemon. White + Black zig-zaggy Lightning Bolts, just look bad. Not to mention the shape looks more like a donkey then a horse, but at least donkeys look adequately nice.

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And if it was an adult who designed the ice cream cone, the snow globe head, or The Fugliest Pokemon Ever a.k.a. Security Cone Gothic? Then that adult should be ridiculed, punished, and fired, never to disgrace Pokemon with their shitty design concepts ever again.
I agree whoever thought up the idea for an ice cream pokemon should be ridiculed, punished, and fired, with a tarnished reputation. However, whatever fool of a manager actually "Okeyed" the idea and allowed it to become an actual canon pokemon, should be punished far, far worse.

I don't understand your hate for Gothitelle though. I agree she isn't the most attractive pokemon, and could definitely use some more design tweaking to put her in a class near Gardevoir's. But she isn't quite that terrible IMO, and has a lot of potential for interpretive fan-art.

Which pokemon is the snow globe head though? Glalie? Evil snowballs are better then a fat flaming magma cannon on legs, Electric Zebra, Garbage bags, pompous humanoid-torso genies on clouds, and rocks with hairy mustaches and red top-hats
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