11-03-2011, 01:33 PM | #1 |
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UPN 2011 Champion League Tournament
For tournament rules post, click here!
For the battle log video list, click here! For tournament standings, click here and scroll down! What You'll Need: some free time this or next weekend, the Pokémon-Online software, and a good attitude Step 1: Sign up! If we get enough interest, I'll edit this post to include more trainers to choose from. Step 2: We'll roll dice to determine who gets what trainer from the list below. I'll ask someone with a web camera to roll some dice for us on webcam so that there's no arguing about it. Once a character is selected from the list below, they are removed from the list before rolling for the next character begins. In other words, no repeats! Character Roster: - 11/06/2011 UPDATED - now includes Koga's list. Will include the other three once they confirm their re-roll status. Spoiler: show Step 3: You'll select up to six of the creatures listed for your assigned team. Download the Pokémon-Online software, make a Pokémon-Online account, and build your team in the program's Team Builder. Nature, IVs, EVs, moves, held items, battle order, everything's up to you. (No, you do not have to use the moves which the creatures had in the video games.) Step 4: Battle! I'll declare the official battle format once we know how many people are participating. (Eight or fewer, probably Round Robin. Nine or more, probably double-elimination.) I'll hold off on posting rules about scheduling and disqualification until we know what format we're doing. Rules about item clauses, sleep clauses, repeat Pokémon, etc, will be held off for now as well so that all the rules can be posted together. Step 5: Have fun! Even if you're not participating, feel free to watch the battles in real time by logging onto the battle server with your Pokémon-Online account. Be courteous and have a good time. For the sake of everybody having fun, all battes will be publically-viewable. This is neither the place nor the time to be worried about your competition "scouting" your team to see what moves you use. This is a casual tourney that's meant to be fun for the whole community.
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11-03-2011, 02:20 PM | #2 | |
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You know what? Yeah, I'll sign up for this. I have no competitive experience whatsoever, so it could be amusing.
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11-03-2011, 02:31 PM | #3 |
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This is an amazing idea and I love it to bits.
Could the battles be recorded with the Pokemon Online replay maker? (http://pokemon.aesoft.org/) Not being able to have Pokemon-Online means I'll likely miss out, but I'd be more than willing to watch the battles! |
11-03-2011, 08:58 PM | #5 | |
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Concept and Tdos, welcome aboard!
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Why can't you have Pokémon-Online, btw?
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11-04-2011, 11:37 AM | #6 |
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Officially Signing Up.
Hell yeah, as a former Comp. Player, this wil bring back some nice memories. |
11-04-2011, 11:40 AM | #7 |
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SIGN ME UP!!!!
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11-04-2011, 12:17 PM | #8 |
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Definitely up for this, I'm trying to train a comp team on Black at the moment but won't have it ready for a while yet, so a bit of Pokémon Online is good by me, and I really like tournaments with themes!
Although Green/Blue seems to be a bit OP. |
11-04-2011, 01:04 PM | #9 |
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Welcome aboard, Kratos, blaze, and LC!
Green/Blue may seem overpowered, but I think that each of the teams has its own strengths and weaknesses. At the same time, yes, there are some teams you'd rather have than others, but that's why this is a casual tourney. You're supposed to have fun, not worry about winning. Great if you do, but I think the best attitude you can have for a tournament like this one is to feel a special bond with your lottery-assigned character. You are representing him (or her). So be the best possible advocate you can be for him/her. Other people talk trash about him/her? You represent! You stand up for him/her! Do that and do it sincerely and I think you'll have a lot of fun with this tourney. The other thing to keep in mind is that the moment we get an eighth person who wants to join (so just two more people), I expand the roster to include the Elite Four. (Not sure if I should start with Gen 5 and work backwards, Gen I and work forwards, or what. We'll see.) So if that happens, intra-Champion imbalance could be the least of your worries. This should be a lot of fun for everybody.
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11-04-2011, 01:58 PM | #10 |
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I'm usually lurking on Pokemon Online for VGC so sign me up.
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11-04-2011, 02:32 PM | #11 |
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Welcome aboard, SP-Eevee!
Okay, since we're just one sign-up away from 8, then, I'll go ahead and open the floor to suggestions about which Elite 4 to add. I'll make the ultimate decision, but your advice may sway me! Spoiler: show I'm currently torn between Options 3 and 4, but you guys may have different opinions. So I welcome them, especially since, due to the chance nature of a dice roll, any one of us might end up getting an E4 member instead of a champion. Which is to say, this decision will very probably affect one or more of us, so it's only fair to at least entertain your thoughts on this matter before I make a decision.
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11-04-2011, 02:49 PM | #12 | |
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Option 3 sounds good, gen II get least screwed methinks.
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11-04-2011, 03:22 PM | #13 |
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Don't currently have access to a computer I have the permissions to. Doing a website on Competetive Gaming in Web Design, this is a bit of a problem. ;^_^
I like Option 4 the most, myself. |
11-04-2011, 03:44 PM | #15 |
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Option 3 or 5.
Leaning towards five, though, three is good.
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11-04-2011, 03:45 PM | #16 |
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Option 4.
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11-04-2011, 04:07 PM | #17 |
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I'll join in. Seems interesting.
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11-04-2011, 05:25 PM | #18 |
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A NEW CHALLENGER!
Welcome aboard, Kuno. That makes eight. So yes, we will be busting out the Elite 4. =Current List of Competitors= Talon87 Concept Tyranidos KratosAurion blazeVA Lonely Cubone SP-Eevee Holy Emperor Continue to vote for which option you like. It's not exactly democratic though: I'll be swayed by a good convincing argument even if it only comes from one guy. Vice versa, even if it comes from the entire group, I won't be swayed by a poor argument. =Current Tally of Votes= Option 3: |||| Option 4: ||| Option 5: | You guys certainly aren't making it easy for me. ^^; I'll have to think about which one sounds better, 3 or 4. Of course, anything could change with one really impressive, persuasive appeal for any of the 5+ options on the table.
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11-04-2011, 08:07 PM | #19 |
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And now I have a new use for Pokemon Online. Sign me up, if still open.
And if still excepted, and as a current Johto fan, I say Option III. |
11-04-2011, 10:04 PM | #20 |
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I quite like Option 5 but 3 is better than 4 so I vote 3. Yay tactical voting
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11-04-2011, 10:24 PM | #21 |
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Tactical voting nothing. ^^; Persuasion, guys, not number of votes. I'm actually leaning more towards 4 right now since the way I see it Karen and Will are in a very different category from Bruno and Koga; and I think Aaron and Flint would prove rather more popular/capable of holding their own against Champions than those two, too.
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11-05-2011, 04:28 AM | #22 |
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A quick glance at Bulbapedia tells me that Gen II definitely had the best E4.
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11-05-2011, 08:23 AM | #23 | |
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I can understand why you'd be dubious about including Bruno, but Koga has an alright team set up (including his gym appearances). I don't feel that Koga or Bruno has a particularly worse team than some of the champions we've already included.
If you're going to throw in the four most easily defended, then honestly that basically is picking gen II anyway, with the only real exception being possibly Flint instead of Bruno. Options 3 and 4 are mostly the same option anyway. And if we only need one or two, then they totally are the same option. Spoiler: show
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Welcome aboard, XanderKetsu!
=Current List of Competitors= Talon87 Concept Tyranidos KratosAurion blazeVA Lonely Cubone SP-Eevee Holy Emperor XanderKetsu Quote:
Spoiler: show Anyway, I think I've figured out an option which should please all parties. See the official drafting and tournament rules post that
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11-05-2011, 09:45 AM | #25 |
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Okay, before I get too carried away making either a Round Robin chart or a double-elimination bracket chart, I guess I should put this up to an actual vote. You have 24 hours from this posting to vote. At the end of 24 hours, registration for the tournament shall be closed, the votes shall be tallied, and the tournament structure shall be decided. I know which one I'd rather do, but since we have as many as nine people now, I guess it's only fair, given everyone's schedules, that I ask the group democratically which of two awesome goods they'd rather do:
Option A: the Round Robin Tournament Spoiler: show Option B: the Double-Elimination Tournament Spoiler: show Place your votes. With an odd number of people, the majority wins. With an even number of people, in the event of a tie I will be the tie-breaker vote. Otherwise, this'll be fairly democratic. Feel free to make appeals for your vote, but you won't be trying to persuade me this time but instead your fellow voters. If you should change your mind, simply edit the post in which you voted. No need to re-post. I will not tally votes at all until the deadline is met tomorrow. One final thing to note: don't be alarmed that in both formats there are multiple battles which seemingly take place at the same time. For the sake of allowing the audience to watch as many battles as possible, but also for the sake of facilitating a speedy tournament, we can settle on how many battles take place at once later. This applies to both formats and should therefore not influence your vote as to which of the two formats is "better" from an audience perspective.
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