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Old 10-24-2012, 01:01 PM   #1451
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AND UM STILL IGNORES THE PROPHECY OF THE WHITE HORSE AND OATH OF VENGEANCE LEL

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Old 10-24-2012, 01:09 PM   #1452
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*looks up White Horse Prophecy on Wikipedia*
*learns that Glenn Beck became a Mormon in 1999*

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Anyway, I'd hardly say the Constitution "hangs like a thread" today, though I suppose that's not what Fox News preaches. And it says right there at the top of the article that "US presidential candidate Mitt Romney has said he considers the White Horse Prophecy to be a matter of 'speculation and discussion by [LDS] church members' and 'not official [LDS] church doctrine.'[5]" Also, "the leadership of the LDS Church has stated that "the so-called 'White Horse Prophecy' ... is not embraced as Church doctrine."
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:22 PM   #1453
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:30 PM   #1454
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Says to stop using hypotheticals

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Says to use actual data

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Still yells at Jeri for using actual data
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Just saw an interesting graphic. It appears that most of the rest of the world would rather have Obama than Romney as president. Of course, I'm sure many of the people "prefer" Obama because they actually know who he is, instead of Romney, whom they know almost nothing about. Still, interesting to see, I think.
We had at least one of those articles floating around here too: mostly due to Romney's Republican background and centering on finance. Researchers look up his plans and come to the conclusion that if Romney won, the world economy would plummet further, which would effect everybody else in the world as always: what America first, the rest next.

Looked up an article like that in English. Also, an interesting blog post to the same effect.
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AND UM STILL IGNORES THE PROPHECY OF THE WHITE HORSE AND OATH OF VENGEANCE LEL
Check back my replies. I did address it. Or are you looking for something else?

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Jeri was using the data to make a hypothetical argument, that's why.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:03 PM   #1457
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It's over, Romney's finished

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Old 10-24-2012, 03:07 PM   #1458
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Check back my replies. I did address it. Or are you looking for something else?


Jeri was using the data to make a hypothetical argument, that's why.
How? He is saying that you can't say that Acorn had any influence at all, when there is so little recorded fraud. Stop putting words in his mouth.

And there was much worse voting fraud in Florida, when you vote counter is also the head of your campaign. Nice one Bush. Nice one.

Romney buying voting machines means he could directly influence what votes go where. He is doing this so he can play dirty. And result is MUCH more fraud than Democrats ever did.
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Not really seeing how that will do more than generate a ripple. Is it bad he lied under oath? That depends. Was the Staples' dude's wife a gold digger bitch that none of us would have any sympathy for and would ordinarily feel got what she deserved when she got screwed out of half the Staples fortune? Hell if I know, and I doubt you know the answer to that question either. There's also the problem of this having happened twenty years ago. Just as a Baptist voter wouldn't hold it against a guy for having been an atheist in college when he's now a devout Born-Again in his mid-40s, or just as a police officer might not hold it against a guy for having peddled drugs when he was 16 if in the time since then he's been an exemplar of the anti-drug movement, I'm not seeing Romney's lying under oath twenty years ago as being something which would sway away most Republicans or Romney-leaning independents.

Could this be enough to tip the balance in a state like Ohio? Sure, I guess. But we've got some time yet for all manner of other rumors to come forward for both men. I doubt that this particular story is going to be something we look back on and say, "Wow, yeah, that decided the election."

But hey: surprise me, public.
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I do dearly hope it's legitimately proven that Romney committed a criminal act to use his knowledge of a company's stocks to make himself and a friend make large amounts of money while someone else got screwed.

Partially because on paper, written the way I wrote it, it sounds dangerously close to things like insider trading, which would be another offense. And I would like to see Romney's public image tarnished to the point where he'll knock it the fuck off with that stupid fucking insincere smirk he keeps plastered on his face.
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I do dearly hope it's legitimately proven that Romney committed a criminal act to use his knowledge of a companies stocks to make himself and a friend make large amounts of money while someone else got screwed.

Partially because on paper, written the way I wrote it, it sounds dangerously close to things like insider trading, which would be another offense. And I would like to see Romney's public image tarnished to the point where he'll knock it the fuck off with that stupid fucking insincere smirk he keeps plastered on his face.
ROMNEY: GETTING RICH OFF OF AMERICA!!!
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ROMNEY: GETTING RICH OFF OF AMERICA!!!
Isn't that the slogan for his platform?
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Isn't that the slogan for his platform?
You're funny. Real funny.
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You're funny. Real funny.
Eh, you go to hell too.
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It was a compliment. ;;
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It was a compliment. ;;
Sorry, thought I saw a [sarcasm] tag. My bad
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How? He is saying that you can't say that Acorn had any influence at all, when there is so little recorded fraud. Stop putting words in his mouth.
Except, I never said they had a major influence. So stop putting words in MY mouth. I said they did it, and are notorious (that is, well know in a bad way) for doing so. My argument never included how much influence they had.

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Romney buying voting machines means he could directly influence what votes go where. He is doing this so he can play dirty. And result is MUCH more fraud than Democrats ever did.
So, if Romney is owning certain voting machines, who owns the rest of them, and why are we not worried about THEM as well? Double standard much?


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Perjury never stopped Bill Clinton. Nor has it tarnished his image a single whit in the mass media.

Besides, it's a pending investigation, not an actual 100% chance he did it. And I doubt he did.


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I do dearly hope it's legitimately proven that Romney committed a criminal act to use his knowledge of a company's stocks to make himself and a friend make large amounts of money while someone else got screwed.

Partially because on paper, written the way I wrote it, it sounds dangerously close to things like insider trading, which would be another offense. And I would like to see Romney's public image tarnished to the point where he'll knock it the fuck off with that stupid fucking insincere smirk he keeps plastered on his face.
Wow, someone's consumed with blind hatred. Calm down a bit and let's have a reasonable discussion. No one wants to see such vitriol being spewed here. Well except those who share it.

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Except, I never said they had a major influence. So stop putting words in MY mouth. I said they did it, and are notorious (that is, well know in a bad way) for doing so. My argument never included how much influence they had.


So, if Romney is owning certain voting machines, who owns the rest of them, and why are we not worried about THEM as well? Double standard much?
No, I know that i am completely right and that i know what i know is Truth, and any evidence you put foward is Conservative propaganda and lies meant to brainwash the country.

But, it was never said they were owned by Obama.
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I really hope you're being sarcastic with that first part, Blaze.
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I really hope you're being sarcastic with that first part, Blaze.
Yes, of course Amras. It was meant to mock.
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I really hope you're being sarcastic with that first part, Blaze.
The only way he could have made it more obvious would have been to have text saying "THIS IS WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE" or some such.
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No, I know that i am completely right and that i know what i know is Truth, and any evidence you put foward is Conservative propaganda and lies meant to brainwash the country.
Well, that's just irrational. I don't need propaganda. It's a proven fact that Acorn engaged in Voter Fraud. Whether you say it doesn't matter because the impact was tiny, does not change the fact that they did it.

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Of course, but no one is investigating into the issue so we can't say for certain or not whether they are or not. So, if you're going to get angry about one person owning machines, you must also be angry about anyone else owning voting machines and investigate into the possibility that they also are compromised.
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Well, that's just irrational. I don't need propaganda. It's a proven fact that Acorn engaged in Voter Fraud. Whether you say it doesn't matter because the impact was tiny, does not change the fact that they did it.
THEY ARE LIES!!! REPUBLICAN LIES!!!


Of course, but no one is investigating into the issue so we can't say for certain or not whether they are or not. So, if you're going to get angry about one person owning machines, you must also be angry about anyone else owning voting machines and investigate into the possibility that they also are compromised.[/QUOTE]

So, did we investigate every presidential candidate for having extra-marital affairs after Clinton.

Nope. Plus the fact that Obama is not a business owner, that I know of.
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Regarding that nice little image that Phoopes posted, I have to say that I can easily see Romney getting the Bush treatment over here, turning America into a laughing stock with he himself being the subject of mocking humour. Just search 'Dead Ringers George W Bush' on Youtube to see what I mean.
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THEY ARE LIES!!! REPUBLICAN LIES!!!
The fact that you can't respond with anything coherent relating to the actual issue you brought up, speaks volumes. Just admit you and Jeri were wrong and we can move on. I promise I won't hold it against you. (Though I don't expect you'd do the same for me)


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So, did we investigate every presidential candidate for having extra-marital affairs after Clinton.
Mass media investigates everyone but the progressive democrats for any little dirt they can dig up. Strange I've never heard much in the way of criticism of Obama or Clinton, but volumes of vitriol on Republicans.

Also, trying to deflect the issue won't work with me. If you're honestly angry that the election can be so easily swayed, then you must investigate both sides, not just the Republicans. The thing though is, I don't think you're interested in a fair debate on the matter. You desire one thing only and that is to disqualify Romney in whatever way possible.

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Nope. Plus the fact that Obama is not a business owner, that I know of.
Of course he's not, he wouldn't dare, he's a socialist who considers the private sector "the enemy" (his words, describing his 1 sole experience in the private sector as "behind enemy lines").

But his big donors are business owners and stock holders. I'm sure if we looked hard enough we could find a similar "friend of a friend of an investor" Democrat connection on the rest of the voting machines. But Republicans don't care about the issue, and Democrats wouldn't dare try and pull up dirt like that on their friends.

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Regarding that nice little image that Phoopes posted, I have to say that I can easily see Romney getting the Bush treatment over here, turning America into a laughing stock with he himself being the subject of mocking humour. Just search 'Dead Ringers George W Bush' on Youtube to see what I mean.
Because it's only republicans that get this sort of mass treatment in the media. You never see this sort of widespread blind hate and mischaracterization of Democrats, because we republicans are the far more civil of society. We are not consumed with a desperate hatred of Democrats, like they are of us.

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