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Old 01-05-2019, 03:27 PM   #1
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Why is UPN dead?

Is it because no one really comes here that much anymore?
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:35 PM   #2
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UPN will never die! (it might just have a bigger presence on Discord tho)
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Old 01-05-2019, 03:58 PM   #3
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UPN will never die! (it might just have a bigger presence on Discord tho)
Not many people still go here...=/
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Old 01-05-2019, 05:35 PM   #4
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They're on Discord, which is this decade's gimmick chat client. Forums are a bit too slow and rule restricted for the spontaneity people desire (which is why Time Out became the highest-traffic topics..) but Skype was ruined by changes. Along with the shut down of AIM, this lead to platform fragmentation.

Even when UPN had Skype, I didn't use it as often as the forums, and I refuse to migrate to Discord due to its data-mine friendly privacy policy. Yes, I can protect myself, but it takes two (twenty+) to tango, and I can't convince the entirety of UPN to use VPNs, speech modulators and revolving pseudonyms. So, the only people I'd regularly talk to would be Morgoth and damicatz.

LINE is about as good as a AIM replacement as is possible in 2019, so while my buddy list is rather small compared to the old days, I'm properly airgapped and don't really care about privacy intrusion.

UPN isn't exactly secure as an http:// website, but I really don't care at this point. I seriously doubt this website is a target of nefarious identity thieves (even though it's literally been targeted by Al Qaeda in the past).
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:55 PM   #5
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Discord has really done a number on smaller forums. Social media in general has been ebbing away at forums but Discord was pretty big hit, and this isn't just a UPN thing.

That being said, we do have a lot of people on here regularly during the day. It's just that they don't always post.
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Old 01-06-2019, 02:15 AM   #6
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Is it because no one really comes here that much anymore?
It's because you touch yourself at night.

Seriously though, Discord is much more appealing to alot of people. Myself included.
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Old 01-06-2019, 12:24 PM   #7
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Experts say that millennial are killing the internet forum industry.
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:34 PM   #8
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Discord's probably the main reason tbh
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:48 PM   #9
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Fansites/forums will always be important regardless of whatever chat clients currently "in"! Chats are horrible places to try an lookup info months/years down the line. Meanwhile seatching on the web proper is much more doable. Forums are chats with the ability to easily re-read stuff and reply to multiple people at once. Not seeing how one could kill the other all of a sudden when they're totally different things an have co-existed in various forms for a loooong time.
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:38 PM   #10
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you can't ping jerichi at 3 am on upn

simple as that
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:42 PM   #11
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you can't ping jerichi at 3 am on upn

simple as that
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Old 02-06-2019, 04:01 AM   #12
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I'll agree that Discord has killed forum communities. It's also alienated the people that can't keep up with it, like me. When I come home from work and there are 1000+ missed messages...it's a real turn off.

Also, Hi. Logging on here after a few years ^_^
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Old 02-06-2019, 05:14 AM   #13
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the secret is to mute your discords, and only focus on the channels that you give a fuck about.

although with the upcoming scandal, discord might run risk of dropping entirely.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:10 AM   #14
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its gonna be a fuck of a time when the fbi shuts down discord entirely and we all have to move back to skype hell
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:04 PM   #15
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Old 02-06-2019, 01:49 PM   #16
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its gonna be a fuck of a time when the fbi shuts down discord entirely and we all have to move back to skype hell
There's still LINE, which is stable, foreign, and reasonably safe. I've been using it since the AIM shutdown and, when properly airgapped, it's a great alternative. My only gripe is the memory use.

On an aside...it seemed inevitable to me that a client like Discord would get hit sooner or later. I don't have any logical reason behind it. Just a feeling, given how intensely it burned.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:28 PM   #17
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Knowing nothing about nothing, if Discord shuts down I feel like Slack is where people will go. Because I've heard of it before. There's no way we're going back to Skype, that would be terrible
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:51 PM   #18
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yeah i'm already using slack for some groups I'm in
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Old 02-07-2019, 11:53 AM   #19
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yeah i'm already using slack for some groups I'm in
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Wait what the fuck
discord trust and safety team is the subject of some serious drama that's recently come to light. I'm going to say content warning for that link for various sensitive topics should you actually review most of the images in detail.

But to put it simply, the QuackityHQ situation was symptomatic of a much larger and more egregious problem with the Trust and Safety team it seems.
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Old 02-07-2019, 03:31 PM   #21
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Old 02-07-2019, 06:22 PM   #22
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Discord has a $2B private valuation; I think those victimized children will suffer in silence. This probably won't lead to it shutting down, but as I said before, given Discord's ease of setup and ubiquity, it seemed inevitable something like this would happen.
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Honestly that part was kind of inevitable: If there's any type of way for two people to communicate, then it's almost definitely been used for child grooming. Especially over the internet.
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Old 02-08-2019, 02:40 PM   #24
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Honestly that part was kind of inevitable: If there's any type of way for two people to communicate, then it's almost definitely been used for child grooming. Especially over the internet.
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Honestly that part was kind of inevitable: If there's any type of way for two people to communicate, then it's almost definitely been used for child grooming. Especially over the internet.
I mean, definitely, no two ways about it. The issue here is Trust and safety team is basically turning the other way about it and other questionably if not definitely illegal content/activity, but if someone just says you said anything anti-furry, regardless of whether your accuser actually has proof or is even being honest, you will pretty much 100% get banned and allthefoxes will throw any appeal in the trash.
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