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If you mean for her to use it as means of an escape, you just pointed out how Gon was completely debilitated and unable to administer the medicine to himself. How could Ponzu then be expected to manage... 1) being bitten once while retrieving the venom 2) treating herself 3) walk out the cave, being bitten along the way 4) treating herself again once outside ...and somehow survive? Considering the logical progression of events, it was a perfectly sensible decision for her to remain put and simply wait for the Examiners to come. (Since they knew Bourbon would be with her due to the tracking in the plates, they'd probably hazard a guess as to what happened and prepare a way to deal with the snakes.) Quote:
The answer to this is surely similar to the above reasons for not reaching for the antivenom. She probably did carry antidote for the bees, but she couldn't get close to Bourbon because the snakes would attack her. (Just cross-referenced this against the English dub of the 1999 series, since it's easiest to pull up. Verbatim: "Because of his trap, I couldn't even help him.") Re: Sleeping Gas This one's a bit fishy, I'll admit. But is there even a method of preventing sleeping gas from taking effect aside from wearing a gas mask? That might be a cumbersome to carry around on your person. Then again, she keeps the gas canister somewhere and bees in her hat, so... *shrugs*
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Episode 19:
I ... did not share Doppel's enthusiasm for this episode. Then again, he wrote what he wrote before reaching the halfway point, by which point it was clear who was going to win, so perhaps he can be forgiven for that. But ... I was already grimacing at this episode well before we'd gotten even 25% of the way into it. So ... grumpy thoughts ahead: Spoiler: show In the end, this was an enjoyable episode to watch ... and yet I found so, so much wrong with it. Would not call it one of my favorites thus far, that's for sure. And man oh man ... Spoiler: show
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That would be the most shocking loss aside from Hisoka, and this episode planted the seed for that loss by introducing the idea that Killua is somehow lacking in Hunter quality. Not to mention Killua's opponents will potentially be - Pokkle (the guy Killua doesn't want to fight, who he could potentially underestimate) Gittarackur (who is probably stronger than Killua) Kurapika, Hisoka, Leorio (who are pretty much destined to get in) Killua's only chance after Pokkle would be Bodoro, the old man who doesn't want to fight him. I don't think that guy's going to get beaten by Leorio, and as hard as it is to believe, I don't think Killua can beat Leoroio's luck/destiny. I also suspect that if a weakness is exposed in one of the characters, that character is going to free-fall because the other contestants will exploit it mercilessly. Quote:
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You also have to consider, during the previous episode with the peer evaluation, the people who were brought up the most frequently as a preferred opponent got more chances, while the ones who were considered an un-desirable opponent fewer, and the blocks were organized so people somewhat got their wishes, like 1. Gon didn't fight any of his friends, or Hisoka. 2. Bodoro has a good chance of fighting Hisoka, who he wanted to battle. 3. Pokkle would have to lose three times before facing Kurapika, assuming Kurapika loses to Leorio. 3. Leorio has an almost zero chance of facing Gon. Quote:
Hanzo didn't strike me as a merciless or super strong guy before this episode. He was kind of comic from the start, almost like an air-headed assassin. But when he over-powered Gon, things became a lot more serious until Gon forced him back into normal mode. At that point he'd already conceded the match in his mind.
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Interestingly, in the 1999 series, Kurapica's and Hisoka's fight took place first. I suspect the pacing was changed due to an... "issue" that arises later, to which Gon won't be a witness. So I'm also curious to see how the rest of the tournament will be handled.
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Interesting. The idea had not even occurred to me. Now that you raise that possibility, I'm on board. It wouldn't be very exciting for people for some random bozo (like the archery guy or the older gentleman) to be the one who loses. But make it Killua instead and it solidifies the overwhelming similarities between this series and Naruto. Killua is already this series' Gaara, and having him lose only to return some time later down the road would be interesting and could very well be what Togashi intends to do with the character. Alternatively, I could see Killua losing ... only for Gon to then be like, "I demand to fight Killua." And whether Killua loses yet again or not, it would set the stage either for (1, Killua loses) Killua's pursuit of that special something that makes a Hunter candidate qualify as a good Hunter or (2, Gon loses) Gon's adventures with his newly Hunter-accredited buddies while he tries to find his dad and more or less bides a year before taking the Hunter Exam again. Well, we'll just have to wait and see. One thing's clear to me now, though, after checking out the sneak peek for next week's episode again:
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I dunno. You loved this episode. I took issue with it. You take issue with my taken issues. I take issue with your taken issues with my taken issues. It's just one of those cases where it's easier to say, "Different tastes, different perceptions, lead to different opinions." See you next week! Why would Kurapica fight Hisoka first? Wouldn't Kurapica need to fight the older gentleman guy first? In their bracket, it goes Old Guy --> Kurapica --> Hisoka --> Leorio, right? In any event, let me ask you this: are you saying that in the original series Gon is a witness to an event but that in the manga (and in the reboot) he is not a witness to it? Or are you saying that he is not a witness to it in any medium but that the reasoning behind his not being a witness to it in the original anime was a little questionable whereas the reasoning here -- he's knocked out cold -- makes sense?
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Generally Hisoka was made to be somewhat more "cutesy" and comedic in the 1999 series. For example, during the forgotten sushi competition, Hisoka got discouraged when it turned out his dish looked the same as Killua's (sushi ŕ la bourguignon, mm), and left to spend the rest of the phase squatting by the river. As a form of censorship, when Hisoka killed the blowdart guy, he showed up not with the body but wearing the man's hat. (In the manga, he brought back the severed head.) Speaking of censorship, it tuns out the arm breaking was also done offscreen in the manga, and that was the extent of the injury Hanzo inflicted. That being said, there have been complaints over some of the censoring choices in both series, but I didn't think them important enough to bring up. For examples, see the hat trick above, plus another major dispute took place over how Killua disposed of the prisoner's heart in Trick Tower. In the 1999 series and the manga, he crushed the naked heart in his hands, rather than wrapping it in a cloth and waiting for it to stop beating before returning it to a limp body. (The main part of the prisoner's backstory was also cut out of the new series, whereas the 1999 version went so far to explain he killed a young boy, and even showed how he tore out a chunk of a cop's arm bare-handed.) Quote:
Gon is not witness to the event in any version, and the reason for it appears the same across all of them. I just think the director of the 1999 series assumed the story should be told from the protagonist's POV, and so made the decision to include Kurapica's and Hisoka's fight before Gon's so that we, as viewers, get to watch it firsthand alongside him.
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The argument for interviews in the real world is evaluators don't have the benefit of personally watching an applicant's performance first-hand, information the old man has. While I certainly wouldn't expect him to know what the applicants were thinking, the interviews should otherwise only serve to confirm what he already knows. Now, I must admit I don't think Togashi is infallible. What this "intangible impression" amounts to might just be plot device knowledge - if it's not power, not mental strength (will-power), curiosity or cunning, what the heck is it? A possibility is leadership, or charisma. What's clear to me is all of Gon's friends were either loners or quasi-loners before he banded them into a group. Likewise, Hisoka and Gittarackur are loners, while I always thought Pokkle was more gregarious toward the other applicants. Hanzou is pretty much a loner, but as said earlier, he always struck me as a comic character who wouldn't be out of place in a group. And the old man Bodoro looks like serious business. I have no idea the threats Hunters face, but even the strongest and smartest individuals can't overcome all obstacles by themselves. Human history was built on team work, after-all.
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Yuki warned that I wouldn't like this week's episode. I have no idea whether the original anime went through the remainder of the Hunter Exam as quickly as the 2011 series has or what, but what the hell at what just happened. "Be careful what you wish for" seems to be the lesson for this week's episode. Always am I asking for a lot to happen in an episode, but this ... this was just madness. They easily breezed through 4+ episodes' worth of material in just one episode. I practically felt like I was watching a colorful, animated version of a Wikipedia article.
And now for spoiler-thoughts. Spoiler: show Did Yuki know this would happen? I don't know. Perhaps I'll sneak a peek at the original series and see what its pacing was for this story arc.
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I really liked this episode. It twisted around in a way my mind couldn't follow and was genuinely surprising.
Spoiler: show Now that the Hunter Exam is over, though, I am very much looking forward to actual Hunter activities.
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The events of this episode is pretty much what happened in the original, with the exception of the Kurapica vs. Hisoka fight prior to Gon's. ^^; To explain what I believe I was trying to hint at earlier...
Spoiler: show I dunno. Hard to say what the intent behind the changeup was. Maybe it was just to fill time. =| Anyway, I'm actually pleased with this episode simply for the fact it at least had some nice, appropriate music playing during the emotional scenes. Man, why couldn't they have played this theme song remix during Gon's talk with Kurapica? It was rather pretty. <3 (Didn't go back and check, but lol if you tell me they were the same. In that case, I'll definitely cede that I am biased. ^^; ) Re: Comparisons to Naruto Spoiler: show
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Starting from around Episode 26 or so, I watched to 12m34s in Episode 30, which is where the 2011 anime left off last week. (Zero spoiler exposure, so no worries. Just putting this in the spoiler tag so as not to spoil others who haven't seen through 2011 Episode 20 yet.)
Spoiler: show So anyway, yeah. Paused it at 12m34s, with ___________ standing right next to _________ in the place last week's episode ended. Will go ahead and close the tab there. But yeah. Thought I'd let you guys know that we're 9˝ episodes ahead of the original right now.
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So ... did Episode 21 not air this week? ^_^;
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NO EPISODE AIRING THIS WEEK!
I feel bad, I was looking forward to it. :/
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EPISODE AIRING THIS WEEK!
I liked it a lot, but not a ton happened. It's really a perfect way to end the first season, rather than that break we had last week. Would have felt a lot more closure with this episode and the wait wouldn't have been as painful.
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Episode 21 was a really solid episode. I too think it's a shame that the episode couldn't have aired last week and that HxH had taken its week-long hiatus this week, but what's done is done. I was surprised that the apparent next plot arc has come to us so soon, and I was even more surprised by Satotz's comment to Menchi at the end of the episode. (What a twist! )
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Spoiler: show About diving into the next major plot arc already, that's how HxH's progression works. Though the story moves slow, there's very little actual "filler". The characters don't muck around, pretty much everything they do is in order to accomplish some goal. No pausing to help out random "citizens-of-the-week" either. In fact, as I recalled mentioning a major epic scene that I expected to occur at the end of Hunter Exam, I went searching for it in the old series. Took me a while, but I found it at the end of a "breather" arc that I was beginning to assume was added filler, judging by the manga's/new series' pacing. However, an important plot-driving element is introduced during it, as well as a few interesting character background revelations. So I fully expect to see this scene and surrounding story in the future - it might even bring up some parts we skipped over. (If not, I will be sorely disappointed, for several reasons. =( The cuddly cat-bears... T-T) Btw, as it turns out, I wasn't exactly lying when I said the scene took place at the end of the Hunter Exam. XP ^~
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Neither. I'm referring to something else entirely: A scene which got me pumped for the remainder of the series... Only to be sorely disappointed when the show changed gears drastically and never mentioned it again, at least not until the OVAs. ^^;
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I don't think this is a deconstruction. That implies Togashi is deliberately going out and trying to subvert cliches, but HxH still carries a lot of stock. I think it's just a unique approach to shounen.
Watched 22. Was fun, but not an episode I could rewatch except for the gate guy (because it showed how inferior Gon + co are right now). We just got through seeing Gon break Gittarackur's arm, and now he's showed how small he is again. I like the feeling a bit, but don't like how Gon doesn't seem "worthy" of rescuing Killua atm. Loved the surprise toward the Kukuru Mountain. Spoiler: show
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No new OP? Aw...
On the subject of music, again with the weird soundtrack. The Celtic theme that played when the gang arrived at Killua's hometown reminded me of the old BGM style I know and love, but that guitar riff at the end was pretty jarring. Was really hoping it would lead into a new ED at least. Then it'd be epic. Btw, anyone notice the standard dramatic theme that plays when Gon was climbing the wall sounds a lot like PotC? Quote:
On that note, a manga reader pointed out how during the Hunting portion of the exam Gon's eyes went blank as he tried to conceal his presence in the Madhouse version. According to her, this is apparently very important. Which is why I was surprised and somewhat concerned when... Spoiler: show Fun bit of trivia I learned: Hanzo is apparently a Jonin from the Village Hidden in the Clouds, according to his business card in the manga/2011 series. (HxH was first though.) Also, Sasuke wasn't even conceived for the Naruto manga until Kishimoto's editor told him to add a rival, and he confirmed Sasuke was based on Kurapica.
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Still haven't seen the episode, but according to this article here, the 雲隠流忍法 kumogakure ryuu ninpou or the way of the Ninja of the Hidden Cloud was a real school of ninjutsu. So it's possible that both Kishimoto and Toguchi independently were inspired by, and were referring to, this real-life school of ninjutsu rather than the one doing a crossover into the other's universe.
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The OP's theme was turned into an episode BGM, so while I might expect the second half of the song to show (with new animation) I doubt we'll get a song change soon.
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Watched the newest episode of HxH. I enjoyed it. It was a good start to a new adventure. There were some silly shounen power level aspects to it that I didn't care for, but other than that it was pretty good.
Spoiler: show It does seem like this is an excellent place to put the series down for a while, though, and to allow it to build up some more episodes. I might do that. We'll see.
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Hunter x Hunter original movie announced
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