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Old 11-17-2010, 11:01 AM   #1
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Stealth Rocks.

Yes, the move that pisses everyone off.

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Stealth Rock (RK) -- The user waits for the target to begin to move towards it, before expending a very large amount of energy to raise several medium sized rocks onto the field, which surround the opponent and strike into the opponent for moderate damage, before receding under ground until the next pokemon is sent out. Every time a new opposing Pokémon is sent out, the rocks appear again and strike the new Pokémon once in the same fashion.
Is the bolded part to be ignored, or not and why/why not?
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:02 AM   #2
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It should be removed, and I don't generally use it because there's not really any reason to have it there.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:09 AM   #3
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I agree- I don't really see the point of that part. It could be used to limit it if it was commonly used as it is in the metagame... but it isn't.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:12 AM   #4
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>It could be used to limit it if it was commonly used as it is in the metagame... but it isn't.

That's because of the restriction. If it was removed, it would become common as all hell and make things even more useless.

We don't want that, now, do we?
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:14 AM   #5
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Good point
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Shouldn’t the Hoff be doing something if he’s still around? I have strict rules about leaving the pool, and I’m sure vanishing the pool out of existence breaks those rules in some way :P
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:16 AM   #6
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But it wouldn't, because it deals little damage even to a Butterfree, and it costs most of a pokémon's rock energy.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:18 AM   #7
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Well, I could be see it being overused if it worked exactly like in the meta. But any competent ref should know that 2HB of damage for just coming in is, well, stupid. I would say a Flamethrower of damage if they're weak to Rock, and a Fire Blast of damage if they're double weak to it. If they take neutral damage... damage of an ember, I guess. If they resist it?

...Uh... Tackle damage?
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:18 AM   #8
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In that case... Just tought it made the butterflies en the like useless. Been playing to much competitive.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:36 AM   #9
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It's prohibitively high energy cost is why it's rarely used, not the "coming in" thing. Only times I've seriously considered using it is when most of my opponents team is rock weak, or in long switch=ok matches. I personally ignore the "begins to move towards it" part.

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It should be removed, and I don't generally use it because there's not really any reason to have it there.
Bullshit. Me vs SM.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:38 AM   #10
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Bullshit. Me vs SM.
> Implying that intelligent people don't recognise when they're wrong and change.
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Old 11-17-2010, 11:42 AM   #11
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>Implying that you're intelligent.

I kid.

But seriously, that stipulation makes very little sense. If it strikes newly sent out pokemon without them having to move why doesn't it hit the pokemon out when it's used without needing them to move forward?
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:15 PM   #12
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eh, I figure that part should be taken out, and that Stealth Rock is awesome- but is there a direct damage cap/area noted for it anyway?
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:19 PM   #13
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Loving the tags.

It's not broken at all, in fact it's not even energy efficient unless you're doing a 4v4 or more, and that's fairly rare still.

And of course you should ignore that bit of the attack description. For the record, I ref it using 0.75 HBish energy and doing 0.2 on a neutral Pokemon, probably wouldn't apply x4 weaknesses at 0.8 either, probably lower.

As for badly written moves, can I moan about Taunt some more?

"That's it, I'm so angry I'm going to stand here and look angry at you and not do any moves. YOU BASTARD"
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:50 PM   #14
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Since I've allegedly started all this, I got told that it was a stupid part of the desc. ages ago.

It was from I_D, so no favours there, but still.

Like Elsie said, I ref it as using a fair ole' chunk of energy (though .67 in my case) to deal .2 HB damage.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:05 PM   #15
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>Yes, the move that pisses everyone off.

Not if you have the common sense to ref it properly.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:11 PM   #16
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>implying i wasn't speaking in general and not just in asb terms
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