12-22-2011, 10:42 AM | #1 |
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The Hobbit
The trailer for The Hobbit was released yesterday. In just one and a half days, the video already has somewhere between 6 and 9 million views. Suffice to say, it looks very well-made and will be a very fun return to Middle-earth. Really like the casting decision for Bilbo: Martin Freeman is the perfect stand-in for Ian Holm as the young Bilbo Baggins and his range of gestures and facial expressions shown in this trailer give great hope that he's really captured the essence of the character and brought him to life. Haven't read the book before, so some things in the trailer didn't stand out to me like they did for others: notably, Galadriel has a scene in the trailer with Gandalf but apparently she wasn't even in the book. But it looks like Peter Jackson was able to make things worth everyone's while: all of the actors from the Lord of the Rings films have returned here to reprise their roles, including poor Christopher Lee (Saruman) who reportedly didn't want to reprise his role because he's too old to be flying to New Zealand. (Awww. He turns 90 this May.) Orlando Bloom returns as Legolas (didn't know he was in the story; interesting) and Elijah Wood returns as Frodo for some scenes that take place in the present (with the bulk of the film presented as a sort of story or flashback). Richard Armitage is playing Thorin Oakenshield, the leader of the group. Now for some unexpected bad news: they're splitting this up into two separate films. ^^; That's good news for us in the long run: more Hobbit goodness for everyone. But for those of us living in the here and now, it's kind of a bum deal: we have to wait one whole year before Part 1, titled An Unexpected Journey, comes out on December 14, 2012; and we have to wait another year beyond that for Part 2, titled There and Back Again, to come out on December 13, 2013. Kinda makes me wish the trailer for this hadn't been revealed until November 2012, so I'd have to wait less time for these movies. ^^; Thoughts? Hopes? Concerns? Anticipations?
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I am freaking out excited for this movie. I am a huge Tolkien fan (pretty sure LOTR is my favorite book ever) and have been eagerly awaiting this trailer for a while.
I loved the trailer. I am a bit nervous about the Galadriel-Gandalf stuff, as well as Rivendell, cameos by the LOTR cast, etc. though, simply because they never happened in the book. I'm always iffy about stuff like that. For example, my major complaint with Peter Jackson's ROTK is the way they portray Saruman/Wormtounge's deaths and the lack of the Burning of the Shire - I hate it when events in movies go directly contrary to great books, to the point that it seems like the filmmaker is trying to correct the book. I think that this was split into 2 primarily because Jackson's going to go for a crapload of integration with LOTR and Tolkien mythology as a whole. He wants this to feel like a more complete work. I'm extremely pumped for this. I was caught off guard by just how damn good the trailer quality itself was. They're doing amazing things with that. Spoiler: show |
12-22-2011, 08:13 PM | #4 |
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The best part of the trailer was how when Gollum was talking to Bilbo, we heard the Fellowship's theme music. I liked FotR most of all so that was quite pleasing.
The Hobbit is an adventure story and is much simpler than the later LotR...so I don't know why Jackson is trying to incorporate all these references. Yes, Legolas was alive during The Hobbit but he was no one of significance back then.
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Completely agree, Dopple. I think he's really just going for a continuity thing.
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they label the trailer as a teaser. its far from that
the only tease is waiting till Dec I can't wait
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My first experience with a Hobbit film.
I don't think I'll be seeing this one, sorry. Too many awful memories
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I havent seen the trailer, yet but am excited to see The Hobbit. I loved reading the book.
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i've been backing since the beginning so i'm pretty excited
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How did I miss this? Excellent! I also am really looking forward to the Hobbit.
From the trailer, it seems they added some things that have nothing to do with the Book, but for all intents and purposes it looks like they fleshed out the action to much better quality then the Book. They better have included the Breaking Plates song (That's what Bilbo Baggins Hates) the Dwarves sing in Bilbo's house, it was most excellent in the earlier film. Quote:
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Air New Zealand safety video
Apparently they teamed up with WETA Workshops to make this (though the only thing that really seemed to require WETA's touch was that Gollum cameo). Amusing to me to see how LotR has become a New Zealand national treasure even though it has nothing to do with Tolkien himself. But at the same time it's cute.
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update for double post
just got back from screening it at my theater. its freaking epic awesome only watched 2D. will see 3D later comparisons for that trailer above(warning SPOILERS) Spoiler: show
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Still haven't seen the film (and may even opt to save my money and just wait for the now three films to come out on DVD) but I did notice that the critics haven't been especially kind ... nor have audiences! According to RottenTomatoes.con, only 81% of viewers gave The Hobbit a thumbs up (compare this with Fellowship's score of 92%) and only 65% of film critics approved (vs. Fellowship's score of again 92%). Ouch. So let's see what the critics have to say, shall we?
Spoiler tagging because some of these comments make direct reference to specific scenes or characters in the film: Spoiler: show Hopefully the critics are wrong but when they're all harping on what's been my fear since I created this thread last year, it doesn't bode well for me. If my family wants to go see this one, then sure, but otherwise I think I'll wait until 2014 before starting on these. Not in any particular rush, and I hate being left hanging for a year.
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Unless the scenes are blatant/cheesy, I think people are probably going in with the predetermined narrative that the film was too long. It's a legitimate concern, of course, but we shan't let that taint our objectivity, as seems to not be the standard anymore with critics.
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I went out for a milkshake, but right before that, my room-mate told me he saw The Hobbit and found it "meh". The primary reason: it was too long.
"I respected it. But that was it."
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I did not enjoy it. I give it a C.
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Giving it a C as a film all on its own, do you believe that it might be more enjoyable when watched shortly (hours, days, less than a month) before the second or third film in the set? Or are its problems such that the film, whether stand-alone or first in a trilogy, is just plain "C meh" period?
It'll be interesting (read: ugh ~_~ ) to see in the coming years how much of the film's weaknesses are blamed on Peter Jackson, how much are blamed on Guillermo del Toro (whose contributions Jackson insisted he wanted to preserve, even when he didn't personally find them best), and how much are blamed on a third party or parties. One film critic wrote that this film threatens to jeopardize Jackson's legacy as built up by the Lord of the Rings trilogy. If true, I think it'll be inevitable then that he might try to shirk some of that blame and say "THIS WAS GUILLERMO'S FAULT! " or something. But we'll see, we'll see. Certainly the degree to which he accepts blame for various criticisms and the manner in which he handles said criticisms will be very telling about his character. Crossing one's fingers for the best, and hoping Jackson takes the public's various disappointments with the film (pacing, exposition, silly fluff scenes, etc) to heart and can perhaps use them during the editing process currently ongoing for Movies #2 and #3 to turn out better films. That stated, it is worth noting that the majority of both film critics and the public enjoyed the film. 65% of critics liked the film, not disliked it, and 81% of the public. M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender this is decidedly not.
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All the more reason to not throw my lots in with the "Pacific Rim will be good" crowd.
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The sad thing is, if you look at his filmography on Wikipedia, you can clearly see that the very first film he served as director for following his abandonment of The Hobbit ... was Pacific Rim. ^^; So he basically left The Hobbit ... to go and work on that. Man. Dunno what he was thinking but WHATEVER. ^^;
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Hellboy and Men in Black are the only "comic book" movies I can get enthusiastic about (I have yet to see V for Vendetta). A big part of that is they're not based on the obnoxious cape comics, but the direction and action are a lot different in both. It's tough to articulate since it's been a while since I saw both, but I'd say...a lot of cape comics try to turn the hero into an everyman with super-powers. The J, K and Hellboy felt like make-believe characters given life/personality. In that sense, one could say, they felt much more natural being lifted off the page of a comic than Spiderman/Batman or whatever.
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