12-28-2016, 05:02 PM | #276 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
Whoops, finished this last week and haven't posted about it until now.
I thought the finale was okay. As I told AK2, I thought there were elements to it that were dumb or weak and then I thought there were parts that were at least an 8 out of 10 level of quality. In the end, Diamond is Unbreakable stays put as the worst of the four JoJos I've seen so far. That doesn't mean it's bad -- it just means it isn't the best, and is in fact the worst. Episode 39: Spoiler: show
__________________
|
12-28-2016, 05:51 PM | #277 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
Going to say it right now: the baby is completely irrelevant to the future parts. Don't care if that's a spoiler to you!
Spoiler: show Overall, I thought your watch of Part IV was very interesting. As I've mentioned before, I went from absolutely hating it to liking it a lot, more than Part III which was largely boring to me until the Jojo party landed in Egypt. I also had a lot more fun with both Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency, although the mystery of Morioh had an appeal to the VN lover in me who drew some transient connections to the like of Ever17 and Remember11. Part V has been green-lit for animation. It's one of the worst Jojo parts by reputation, and for that reason I haven't read it myself. But for that exact reason, I'm going to actually pick-up the anime. I know next to nothing about Part V except the main character's identity, and maybe the bad guy's name. V for Virgin!
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
12-28-2016, 06:16 PM | #278 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
If Part V's really that bad, then I wouldn't say no to a Season 1 approach where they give us a nine-episode Part V and then a sixteen-episode Part VI. I really don't want to have to sit through a shitty arc for two full seasons or longer. Even if it's a stand-alone 13'er, just make it a stand-alone 13'er. Don't make it a 26'er. Don't make it a 39'er like Part IV. And certainly don't make it a 48'er or 52'er like Part III.
That's fine about the baby. If it genuinely never shows up again -- and we're already onto Part IX by now, iirc -- then I don't much mind the spoiler and can go ahead and say: Spoiler: show
__________________
|
12-28-2016, 06:49 PM | #279 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
I only know Part V by reputation, so I'm going to watch it to make a call myself. Granted, Jojo tends to gravitate around Part III in terms of fan opinion, where Part III is considered the best (at least, until Steel Ball Run), and the further you get away from that in either temporal direction, the worse the story gets.
Part I was said to be bad too, and I knew the story beforehand, but I liked it a lot. And I recall a lot of people expressing a higher opinion of Jonathan to whom they barely gave any recognition prior to Phantom Blood being animated. The (comparatively) unique, historical Victorian setting starring Dio, the most famous Jojo antagonist, helped it along a lot. So, I am willing to give Part V the benefit of the doubt. Jotaro doesn't appear in it at all, and Joseph has already died, so it's as close to a stand-alone Jojo as you'd find. Part VI is very similar to Part III in terms of structure, so I wouldn't be in a hurry to rush into it.
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
12-30-2016, 08:59 AM | #280 |
Mysterious Knight
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,918
|
Been sitting on this post for like a month or two and I may as well introduce myself to the thread.
I started JJBA around summer, with the 2012 anime after hearing a lot about how great it is. I didn't have huge expectations for the series, going in, but I was pleasantly surprised. I liked the "unique" art style, the music, fights, the humor, and so on. I was pretty much hooked and was excited for the next episode. I didn't really catch up to the Part IV anime until early November, and when I did, I read the manga from that point and finished it. I haven't seen the episodes after 35 yet. My favorite JoJo is Josuke, and I would rank them like this: Josuke > Joseph > Jotaro > Jonathan. My favorite JoJo Part (so far) is Diamond is Unbreakable, and I would rank the parts like this: 4 > 2 > 3 > 1. I hope to get more involved in the thread in the future.
__________________
|
12-30-2016, 09:55 AM | #281 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
We need more opinions on what Part IV is good. Do go on if you would, since the anime is a done deal.
Actually the anime is spurring on a lot of debate. A bunch of folks call Kira a "bad" villain because he's weak compared to even the Part III mooks. That misses the whole point of his character! Not to mention Kira is Araki's favourite villain. Dio has more or less been a caricature of himself since Part I, his development has been set in stone, but Kira's inner turmoil went back and forth like the tides on a Castillian beach. ... Also Talon, but I forgot to mention: Jotaro is much weaker in Part IV than Part III.
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
08-18-2018, 10:56 PM | #282 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
Yo, it's Part V! And it looks like the official title is, after all the drama, Golden Wind. Okay that's fine.
I'm definitely coming aboard for this one. This one and Part VII.
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
08-22-2018, 06:26 PM | #283 | |
Boulder Badge
|
Quote:
|
|
10-07-2018, 08:50 AM | #284 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
__________________
|
10-07-2018, 02:01 PM | #285 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
I'm getting this now.
There was a curious upload on Nyaa, a subtitle fix. The description said Horrible's release didn't use the proper stand names or something to that effect. Since they're named after bands that would be quite the blunder. So I'm going to go with Some-Stuff's.
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
10-12-2018, 04:38 PM | #287 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
__________________
|
10-12-2018, 05:21 PM | #288 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
I'm watching the episode now and saw a bit of your spoilers. So let me set you on the right track then Talon:
What is the relationship between Parts I-III? What is the relationship between Parts IV-V? (so far)
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
10-12-2018, 06:36 PM | #289 | |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
Quote:
I-III: Family IV-V: Community
__________________
|
|
10-12-2018, 06:45 PM | #290 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
You're on the right track, but I wouldn't say "Community" necessarily.
Rather, how were the main characters in Parts I-III related, and how are the main characters in Part IV-V related? Who don't you see around who either were or probably would have been around in the earlier three? Episode II Spoiler: show
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて Last edited by Doppleganger; 10-12-2018 at 07:25 PM. |
10-12-2018, 09:17 PM | #291 | ||||
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
Quote:
Spoiler: show I think my answer works pretty well based on what we have seen so far. I-III is definitely about the Joestar lineage and their world-saving quest against the vampiric forces of evil. IV is about the city of Morioh while V would appear to be about the city of Naples. I'm not really sure what you're going for, but I'm not in the mood to play Guess What Teacher's Thinking when I'm actively avoiding spoilers for Part V. I'll have to ask you to keep your "correct" answer to yourself for now. Quote:
Spoiler: show Quote:
Spoiler: show Quote:
Spoiler: show
__________________
|
||||
10-12-2018, 10:25 PM | #292 | |||||
我が名は勇者王!
|
Quote:
I'll ask this - what do you know about Part VI? I'm asking not because what I want to talk about is not necessarily plot specific, but I want to avoid a disaster like the Dio Brando clothing thing. What I want to talk about, I believe, is going to play a role in Part V. Quote:
Jotaro > Joseph = Josuke > Giorno > Jonathan Jonathan & Joseph got shafted in the English community early on due to no scanslations existing for Phantom Blood or Battle Tendency. Stardust Crusaders had scanslations and then got a localized release, and the OVA focused on Jotaro and came out relatively close to the 1980's when Kenshiro clones like Jotaro were at their most popular. While the anime has served to boost the popularity of Jonathan and Joseph, Joseph got the biggest boost since he appeared in three series in different roles. Jonathan, of course, didn't make it out of Phantom Blood and the anime didn't alter Araki's writing at all. Josuke...I think of Stardust Crusaders and Diamond is Unbreakable were released at the same time, or had the same level of exposure, Josuke would have taken the reigns because attitude-wise he's similar to Jotaro but with a personality closer to Joseph. But while Phantom Blood/Battle Tendency had no scanslations, the best we had for DiU was duwang. Not necessarily better than nothing. Quote:
Part I-III were definitely an inherited will story, linked by Dio's curse. Joseph Joestar was affected by this even though Dio didn't appear in the story: -one of Dio's minions killed George Joestar II -Straights was seduced by Dio's vampiric power -Joseph spent a great deal of his adult life trying to locate Dio Quote:
Quote:
In the Episode 02 battle, Gold Experience punches Bruno several times, but he recovers enough to run away from the battle, and continue fighting. If this were Star Platinum or Crazy Diamond we're looking at either a 1HKO or a barrage of fists leading to a KO. I have no reason to believe Giorno was willing to spare Bruno until the end of the episode, with all that "kill or be killed" dialogue they shared on the train. I may have mentioned this comparison before - in Stardust Crusaders, Jotaro was the overpowered boss with a wall of stats that Dio's minions had to come up with creative ideas to defeat. Attack his friends, trick him, trap him, anything to avoid a one-on-one with Star Platinum itself. Even though Kira had a powerful and deceitful, mulch-faceted Stand, Crazy Diamond's ridiculous physical prowess still forced him into hiding for the most part, to avoid a direct confrontation. My hope for Part V is that, if Gold Experience really is a support or passive first Stand, Giorno's role will be more of a manager than a front line fighter. One of the things I loathe in shounen is where fights "pair off" with similar strength opponents. One Piece is pretty notorious for this as it happens in every fight. There are very few mismatches. Jojo has largely avoided this, the closest we came was toward the end of Part III where Dio and Vanilla Ice fought the cast in his mansion. But if it happens in Part V I won't welcome it.
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
|||||
10-15-2018, 06:45 PM | #293 |
Boulder Badge
|
The -ultimate- trolling would be Araki's social media accounts being blown out with people posing in Naples having a safe and fun time, topped off with the side-ways peace sign.
|
11-02-2018, 07:52 PM | #295 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
Hyueeeuughh!!
Disgusting!
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
11-09-2018, 04:18 PM | #296 |
時の彼方へ
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lafayette, Indiana
Posts: 20,578
|
Through Episode 06 of Golden Wind now. So far, so fine. Posting mostly just to nag about regional name differences again: Moody Blues changed to Moody Jazz, and Sex Pistols apparently changed to Six Bullets. Not too upset since all of this is new to me. Just ... it's mildly annoying, is all.
It's good to see that Araki is re-exploring Stand powers that aren't necessarily combatively amazing or anything but that would be super useful to a group of adventurers. I feel like he might have gotten a lot of flak for Hermit Purple in Part III, which then resulted in most of the main characters in Part IV having Stand powers that were all good in combat. But it's neat to see that Abbacchio has a Stand that is super powerful/useful for fieldwork but that leaves him utterly exposed combatively (per Word of God) and which also isn't exactly super useful itself in combat anyway. (Yes, we can imagine ways in which it would be. No, it's not Star Platinum or The World or The Hand.)
__________________
|
11-09-2018, 07:30 PM | #297 | |
我が名は勇者王!
|
Quote:
I hope Abbacchio still has guns on him but I don't think he does. It would at least give him some teeth in case he's facing another Stand user.
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
|
11-17-2018, 12:23 AM | #298 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
Ahahaha what is this? Am I watching Golden Wind or Zombieland Saga?!
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
11-23-2018, 09:07 PM | #299 |
我が名は勇者王!
|
Golden Wind - 8
This episode was too funny. Spoiler: show So far, this part has hit it out of the park for entertainment. Most of the Stands have distinct powers that aren't excessively weird...except the guy from two weeks ago. The fights are also thrilling and don't have to rely on a few over powered abilities to win. Bruno's associates have basically solved the problems all by themselves. Spoiler: show For years, people have said things about Jojo that I personally disagree with. Like Part III being "by far" the best part - it has its charm, but memes aside I think it was overly promoted by Jotaro fanboys, because I'm not sure most people would rate it as highly as IV, even with an iconic villain like Dio. Part V is shaping out to be one of the best! Maybe the anime is just high quality enough to up the overall package quality. My only complaint I guess is time is moving at a snail's pace in the story itself. Like it's probably only been 5 days or so since Giorno met Bruno, but it's been 2 months our time. Episodes like 7 and 8 need to be paired together.
__________________
あなたの勇気が切り開く未来
ふたりの想いが見つけだす希望 今 信じあえる あきらめない 心かさね 永遠を抱きしめて |
Lower Navigation | ||||||
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|