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Old 05-06-2013, 09:13 AM   #1
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Sunflora Google Glass: Good or Bad?

So Google Glass is becoming a thing, with glasses including a built in HUD and camera and various mobile tech functions such as social media sharing.

Positive move towards a better and smarter future? Or just another step towards Big Brother state and zombification of our culture?

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Old 05-06-2013, 09:15 AM   #2
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Are they available in prescription lenses?

Because if so then I'd like a set of glasses that allow me to watch tv and stuff, but given that I shun social media I can't really see any other benefit.

Also this existed in Back to the Future Pt. 2 so it makes sense that it's happening two years before. Only flying cars to go!
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:17 AM   #3
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Yeah you will be able to get prescription ones.

Flying cars are a thing. They're just a really shitty thing.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:48 AM   #4
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The concept and actual thing is brilliant but I'm still not sure how I feel about the camera.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:12 AM   #5
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Humans are, I will argue, not evolved to make social blunders which will haunt them for the rest of their lives b/c they'll be witnessed by all and remembered / accessible for all time. On-person video recorders are so amazing in so many imaginable ways, but I think they can definitely ruin ~everyone's lives given YouTube. Consider the following:
A kid you knew shit his pants in the 2nd grade. This is all but a hazy memory now, and you certainly can't show the world it. But imagine if one of his classmates had Google Glass and then uploaded the footage? Even changing schools wouldn't save this kid from the torment of the other children: he'd have to be home schooled for years, until such time as his face was no longer instantly recognizable as The Kid Who Shit His Pants.

A young man you had the displeasure of running into at the local pub expressed some rather repugnant views on {TAKE YOUR PICK! }. You upload your Google Glass footage to YouTube. Two years later, the man deeply regrets what he said, has been profusely apologetic, yet still everywhere he turns he's haunted by what he said on camera. Job interviews are declined or quickly go south as he walks through the door. No woman will date him. Waiters spit in his food. People kick sand in his face when he goes to the beach. His life is over, because of one ignorant comment.
These are the sorts of things about on-person video recorders which concern me. Thing is, the technology is already out there. It just isn't widely accessible. Barriers to entry in the form of cost, portability, etc. Things like Google Glass could change that, for worse ...

... or for better. 'Cause like, it's a double-edged sword. Consider the following:
Your beloved grandmother is dead. Your little brothers hardly even remember her. Wouldn't you love to be able to share with them, wouldn't you love to re-experience for yourself, the times you shared with Grandma?

You're accused of murdering your ex-wife. You didn't do it, but you lack an alibi. However ... you have your Google Glass footage to save you! You can prove that you were where you say you were at the time of the murder. (And on the flip side, if we have futuristic cybernetic implants that transmit the last 30 minutes of footage to the police station when you die, and if the murderers can't easily block this, it could even capture your murderer on camera!)
So like, there are boons to always-on video cameras too.

I realize that Google Glass isn't (as yet) an always-on video recorder, but I don't think we're too far off from that, which is why I bring it up.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:17 AM   #6
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I don't want to say "Ok Glass, search for HD porn" in public. I prefer to do it discreetly on my phone.
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Or, better yet, on your laptop or PC from the comfort of your own home.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #8
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Or not at all, helping to prevent the objectification of fellow humans (or whatever else) and stimmying the move towards a society more comfortable with touching themselves in private than touching another human.
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Nothing like the thrill of doing so in public.

My point was that having to say "OK Glass..." for every thing that the thing will do is really off-putting.
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having to say "OK Glass..." for every thing that the thing will do is really off-putting.
Surely customizable. If not in the prototype, then in an eventual later software build. There's no reason to expect that you can't do the equivalent of a computer's hotkeys with many of these commands. For example, you could make it so that the words "racetrack", "badger", and "unbelievably gorgeous" all stand in for "OK Glass, record!" So you could be out in public and just find some way to use any of your designated keywords in a not-too-obvious way, like ...
  • kids causing mayhem at the supermarket, you can say "What do you guys think this is? Some sort of racetrack?"
  • girl at the bar (who doesn't even have to be your real target for the recording), you can say "Has anyone ever told you how unbelievably gorgeous you are?"
  • "Honeybadger don't care."
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:18 AM   #11
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Mm, I know Tdos. And you're right (as are you Talon).
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I'd rather not say anything at all.
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And even then, there will probably be ways to do it. Really, all you need in this era to record people illicitly is the concealed portable camera. Turning it off and on is the easy part, I would think. I'm pretty sure that even with conventional methods, people just press a button in their pocket to activate or deactivate a camera peeking out from their breast pocket or lapel. I don't see why Google Glass couldn't be made to operate any differently: you have a wireless trigger in your pocket, you click it silently, it sends a wireless signal out, your Google Glass is configured to interface with said signal, and voilŕ: it starts recording. (You can also put it on the inside of your shoe if you want and press it by pressing your big toe up against the roof of your shoe, I imagine.)

The point is, getting the thing to turn on and off isn't the hard part. The hard part is mobilizing it and making it look perfectly ordinary. Google Glass hasn't quite achieved this yet -- iirc the prototypes stand out pretty obviously -- but the idea is there. "Make it so that as far as you can tell the person is just wearing an ordinary pair of glasses."
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Or lenses, which will be fun.
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If you didn't need prescription glasses before, you will have you get these!
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Or not at all, helping to prevent the objectification of fellow humans (or whatever else) and stimmying the move towards a society more comfortable with touching themselves in private than touching another human.
Just saw this. Silly Mercutio, always with those crazy ideas.

Clearly Big Porn is the new Big Tobacco
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Though, I also dislike the concept of lamenting the current day while wishing to re-experience the past. At least, my modern attitude is to try and make each new day magical even if it's not, since exclusively reminiscing about the past is too pathetic.
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:19 PM   #18
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I am deeply against this. All the huge privacy violations outweigh any possible benefits in my mind, especially because it seems like the privacy violations would be constant and the benefits would only be in very specific situations.
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Aren't there already these identical problems on a somewhat smaller scale with the prevalence of video cameras and surveillance as it is?
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Aren't there already these identical problems on a somewhat smaller scale with the prevalence of video cameras and surveillance as it is?
As I've stated numerous times in this thread already, yes. The only difference is lowering the barrier to entry. (Cost, portability, etc.)
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Here's the question though: will Google Glass ever be affordable (and stable!) enough for this to be an issue?
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Here's the question though: will Google Glass ever be affordable (and stable!) enough for this to be an issue?
1, I assume so. And 2, Google Glass probably already *is* affordable for the top 5% of Americans. I'm not saying it's cheap! It'll run you several thousand dollars, I imagine. But you spend several thousand dollars on a souped-up gaming PC. You spend several thousand dollars on a gluttonous purchase like a moped or a trip to Hawaii. Several thousand dollars is nothing to the top 5% of Americans who would be interested in an opportunity to record everything they see as they see it.

In my anti-defense, the "probably" in that second sentence is a big deal. I have no idea what the actual cost is of Google Glass. But I assume it can't be more than several thousand dollars.
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It's hard to say, really, especially since if Google knows what's good for them, all the data taken and produced by Glass will have some sort of restriction or will be coded in a way where it won't be readily accessible. That being said, I'm sure there will be plenty of people eager to reverse engineer it and use it for malicious activities, but if they're going through the trouble of doing that, they were probably an issue even without Google Glass.
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The developer version is $1500.

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The developer version is $1500.

Yeah.
Don't you have your thinking backwards? I always thought the developer kit was more expensive than the retail model, not less. So if the developer kit is only $1,500 (which fits in perfectly with what I said before -- "think of this purchase like the purchase of a new computer"), then wouldn't we expect the retail model to be anywhere from $1,500 on down to (say) $1,000? Correct me if I'm wrong. I admit I could be. But usually with technology, the price of components falls rapidly over time (rapidly compared with other markets, that is), so like ... parts that actually physically cost $1,500 in 2011 (and thus, if you sold them, you'd be selling them at cost and not even making money back to pay your laborers) tend to only cost maybe $1,200 by 2013. It's what we see happen all the time with the video game consoles, for instance.
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